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Old 01-26-2009, 8:49 PM
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Is there a list of which headstamped brass has a crimped primer pocket. When I searched everyone talked about Lake City. I could not find mention of any other headstamps that crimp. I am really trying to find out if my WIN NT .223 cases are crimped or not.
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Old 01-26-2009, 9:31 PM
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Military brass is crimped. Commercial is not.

You can see the crimp easily when you look at the primer at the bottom of the case.
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pmc bronze has the crimp the recent stuff in the black box

the old pmc in the red and white box not sure of
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No list is necessary. It's readily visuallu obvious when it is crimped. Some is ring-crimped and the brass will be impinging on the full circumference of the primer.
Or an older military crimp, usually three indentations spaced around the primer.
Lake City Arsenal (LC) or any other mil contract brass from a commercial loader, or older milsurplus will be crimped. Very little commercial brass is.
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You guys must have pretty good vision because I cant see stuff that close with out a magnifying glass.
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i guess we just use "the force" to know if there is a crimp
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This is a good picture.
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Winchester ranger has a crimp.
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Just look at the headstamp.

Most LC and FC has crimps.
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I've heard some Commercial is run on Military lines so is also crimped. I just swage everything.
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Note that you can buy Lake City brass, new and unprimed. Obviously, these aren't crimped (since they were never primed to begin with).
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Thanks for the pick. You probably saved me a broken decaping pin as I was unaware the Greek stuff I've been shooting and am gearing up to reload was crimped. Now I need to put a deswagger on the wish list.
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Thanks for the pick. You probably saved me a broken decaping pin as I was unaware the Greek stuff I've been shooting and am gearing up to reload was crimped. Now I need to put a deswagger on the wish list.
You mean a SWAGER right? ;-)
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You mean a SWAGER right? ;-)
I think he means a decrimper Swager!

BTW, inspection of the primer pocket is the only way to know. There is a lot of military brass floating around that has been comercially reloaded and swaged already.
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Crimped on the right side, crimp reamed on the left side.

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I use a Hornady pocket reamer with a cordless drill and works great.

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I use a Hornady pocket reamer with a cordless drill and works great.

shiet, I wish i've seen this thread before I f'd up about 12 cases and primers


So ream after decap right?
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You mean a SWAGER right? ;-)
I'm getting ready to start reloading and have alot of LC brass and was looking at getting a swager. I was looking at the Dillon super swager 600 due to its ease of use and making quick work of removing the crimp. Little pricey however it appears to be a handy tool. I,m sure there are many that have this and would like input on your experience is with this swager.
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shiet, I wish i've seen this thread before I f'd up about 12 cases and primers


So ream after decap right?
Yes, ream after decap. Takes only 2sec to ream a case with a cordless drill.
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I've heard some Commercial is run on Military lines so is also crimped. I just swage everything.
It's actually the other way around. There's only one 'true' military production line and that's Lake City, which is run under contract by Alliant / Federal. There are also other Federal lines.
There are production overruns of govt / NATO spec ammo sold commercially by Federal as XM193. It is basically Q3131A / M193 mil ammo. Thus it is headstamped 'LC' and is ring-crimped.
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Thanks for the pick. You probably saved me a broken decaping pin as I was unaware the Greek stuff I've been shooting and am gearing up to reload was crimped. Now I need to put a deswagger on the wish list.
Depriming / decapping should be unaffected by a crimp.

And the Dillon swage is a great tool. Beats the hell out of a hand-tool reamer.
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Crimped on the right side, crimp reamed on the left side.

Mecam has thrown down the photo gauntlet

I'll be processing some ring-crimped .223 brass later this week, I'll have to post a similar pic with a swaged round. They're so purty.
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I'll be processing some ring-crimped .223 brass later this week, I'll have to post a similar pic with a swaged round. They're so purty.
Swaged do look much better than reamed.
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Much cleaner.
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