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vBulletin 4 | 55 | 37.67% | |
Xenforo | 32 | 21.92% | |
SMF | 56 | 38.36% | |
Other (Specify in the thread) | 3 | 2.05% | |
Voters: 146. You may not vote on this poll |
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Git-r-done...
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There is no Bacon option in this poll = poll failure.
I vote create your own software...Baconorumapatalka. Be the leader, top of the food chain, change the game, neva bin dun befo.
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Used invision powerboard many times, not sure of its current feature set.
https://invisioncommunity.com/ |
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Can I request that we get a warning a few days in advance before the change, so we have a chance to make our own backups of stuff we want to save just in case?
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vB4 seems to be a dead end. VB5 is out, but not sufficiently agile.
Xenforo has potential, and fielded 2.0 at the end of last year, so should have some stability for a few years. But, I think I hate the look and feel. SMF open sourcing can leverage "hive" solutions and may help resource management and future agility. Soooo.....SMF.
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Open source for customization if/when needed. SMF appears to be the best option for future growth and non-obsolescence. |
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Better take a screen shot of my iTrader ratings, worked hard to keep a triple A+ rating.
All things being equal I dislike SMF the least if VB4 is also close to EOL. .
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I vote for whatever is easier to maintain.
I also discourage usage of unsupported or custom mods since future maintenance is usually more difficult. So the Open Source-ness of SMF is not necessarily an asset unless we have a SMF project contributor calgunner here. |
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I would second this with a caveat... when pushing the upgrade live keep a static version of this one accessible to users read only for a few weeks at a changed top level domain? If anyone notices content not working or looking the same it’s easier to help point you at the issues if you have that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Andrew - Lancaster, CA NRA Life Member, SAF / CRPA / FPC member and supporter, USCCA Member |
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The someone that grew up on the I-phone with its cartoonish graphics and pastel rainbowness might think that, so it's plausible. .
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I hate all the empty space that has become a design trend on not only bulletin-boards, but bank websites, financial institutions, and such; it's like suddenly everyone is catering their page designs to a 13-year old girl who likes the pretty pastel colors because they match her Hello Kitty backpack and reading is too much of a chore, where communication by insipid acronyms and smiley faces has taken over the slightest ability to convey something other than a fart. Yet, I know that when it comes down to it, the engine is the most important thing and those that have to work with it will take function over form. Due to that, begrudgingly, I understand. .
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SMF is free open source software so no cost. Xenforo is $140 initial cost then $40/year for support and updates. If I add in their enhanced search and Gallery options that's another $110 and $25/year for support and updates. Quote:
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Ok i voted for SMF because im used to it on a motorcycle forum. You can see what i will suppose is a current version here:
http://malaysianbikers.com.my/forum/...p?action=forum This one uses vBulletin 3.8.8 and has set it up, for me, in a dis-likable way. http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/ I think there is something to like and dislike about all of them. With the exception of advertising space, whichever one seems to have less clutter and ease of navigation is the winner.
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After reddit went full retard on subreddits linking to sales or trading of certain items a bunch of people jumped ship in the tobacco subreddits to a newly setup website https://speak-easy.club/ ... its apparently XenForo.. seems pretty nice so far..
I like how it shows if you have posted in a thread by putting your avitar on the corner of the thread icon. It also tells you if your post has been liked or quoted in the inbox area. |
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Other than regional content/laws the current format is one of the reasons I prefer CGN over GlockTalk and others. (I just don't do GlockTalk any longer because of the format and invasive ads).
I realize change is inevitable and it appears CGN is not the only site to need to update. Since some of us are familiar with the SMF format (Calguns. org) due to CGN outages in the past, my vote is SMF if we must change. Respectfully, Kyle
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The SMF example back on P-1 looks good.
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Like another poster said "The thread titles arent bolded and get lost with the second line and nothing stands out when scrolling. You have to really look to pick out the thread title from the poster name and other misc info on the 2nd line.
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Thanks for asking for input. It's pretty cool that the members here are consulted on stuff like this.
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I just want to say that it's hilarious that my "I don't like change!" Crying Stewie meme is still the picture for this thread on Tapatalk
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I worked on building the Rivals.com network of forums at Yahoo Sports. We had ~750,000 daily active forum users across all ~100 of our forums. We picked Xenforo because it has the most active development team. While SMF is open source, it does not have a good track record with security and it's development is not as active as Xenforo. We had no issues whatsoever with Xenforo when I worked at Yahoo Sports.
If you switch to SMF, be prepared to get hacked once in a while. SMF: Stable release: 2.0.15 (November 19, 2017; 4 months ago) Preview release: 2.1 Beta 3 (June 1, 2017; 10 months ago) Xenforo: Stable release: 2.0.4 / March 16, 2018; 24 days ago |
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Another thought, Xenoforo is probably the best way to win California back in regards to pro2A activism from having used other Xenoforo forums. Its trending threads/topics homepage thing really gets and keeps the community up to date with current and relevant events.
Besides having an easier to use platform with better options, Xenoforo has very good options with different layouts. WIN CALIFORNIA BACK! |
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Did not see a choice for the venerable RBBS-PC. Public domain, open source, very light on resources, supports dial-up access.
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Opus is okay, but the format is a little plain.
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Well some new information has come to light.
While researching vB4 to see what the upgrade would entail I found a post on the official vBulletin customer service forum announcing that as of December 2017 vB4 was being considered EOL. No updates or improvements anymore just security patches for a while. This puts a bit of a different spin on things, it seems that if we want to stay with vBulletin it's going to be vB5. Here is what vB5 looks like in it's generic form: https://www.vbulletin.com/forum/
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But why is it such a new trend in web design to have so much empty space, and be completely devoid of simple visual cues like using separators, sharp contrasting colors, and condensing the display so that related matter segues nicely to the content for which it is related? This collage of empty space, pastels or muted grays all awash together, bland or weak fonts, and vastly disjointed text floating afar from what it references with no cohesive encapsulating or subjects is just weird. Yet you see it now on everything from bank webpages, information sites, Ebay, Paypal, to nearly all of these bulletin boards; even Gunbroker as taken on this design trend lately. A lot of it looks like someone from Toys-r-Us or Playskool came up with the interface. .
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I know my eyes are not in the greatest shape but vB5 is really difficult for me to read.
Obviously the web designers have young eyes. Just wonder why the pay good money for wide screen monitors to squeeze small text in an equally small central area? Respectfully Kyle
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On the colors, I really, really, really don't get it. Google Maps works fine on my phone, but on Android Auto, I had to spend an hour tweaking the display contrast and settings to be able to actually see the freeway lines against the background.
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I hate change.
I will adjust eventually and I'll complain only to people around me and not online. You should have seen me when we started documenting patient care on computer. I'm a retired hospital RN and there is always a ton of documentation to be performed. I was accustomed to using paper forms and writing narratives by hand. The software was a nightmare. Was not well structured or even structured at all, took many months to learn and then another couple of years of near constant changes and fixes. Eventually learned and adjusted. The single most important benefit was being able to read MDs orders. The handwriting rule was that if 3 RNs looking at a handwritten order for 15 minutes cannot confidently decode the scritch scratches than the MD earns a phone call, even if it's the middle of night shift. So I will eventually pick up the pieces of my life and adjust to new CalGuns software and maybe even grow to like it. Might take a couple of years. Don't worry about me I'll be fine. After reading all the posts I vote for Xenforo.
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I've lived this long without a smart phone, I guess either I deal with it or abstain from forums that are tiny. Respectfully Kyle
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I'm testing demo versions of vB5 and Xenforo and I took a couple screen shots of a few changes I've made. These are works in progress so don't judge these as the limits of what we can do.
For example vB5 can have the colors changed to be similar to what we have and I'm trying to find out if Xenforo can be changed to a single column layout like what we have here.
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I use 2 or more windows side by side, and there's no white space. Full screen is for amateurs.
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j/k Although, now we all have your password! muahahaha BRB...gonna ban all the fuitcakes here... |
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I can be writing a client, watching the attack in Syria, while watching what Exxon is doing in the stock market, as I keep an eye out for anyone posting updates to Anti-2nd Amendment legislation. Clients, News, Stock-Market, Calguns - and not necessarily all in the order. Not to mention tabs, many tabs. .
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