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Old 09-05-2019, 7:59 PM
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I know this has been asked numerous times, but now in Sept 2019, what is the best pistol grip shot gun for home defense and why? So many to choose from, what is best? 12, 10..etc? Brand and Model please. Thanks in advance. Also, what buckshot ammo you use?
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I know this has been asked numerous times, but now in Sept 2019, what is the best pistol grip shot gun for home defense and why? So many to choose from, what is best? 12, 10..etc? Brand and Model please. Thanks in advance. Also, what buckshot ammo you use?
Get a 'Raptor Grip' for your Remington 870 or Mossberg 500.

Best bang for the buck!

https://shockwavetechnologies.com/pr...remington-870/

https://shockwavetechnologies.com/pr...-mossberg-500/
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Old 09-05-2019, 8:43 PM
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The best pistol grip shotgun for home defense is one that also has a shoulder stock. "Best" in the sense that you might actually be able to hit the bad guy with it. Something like this: https://www.big5sportinggoods.com/st...27/_/A-3691003
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Old 09-05-2019, 9:35 PM
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My HD shotgun is a Remington 870 20 gauge youth model.
Small, light, quick. I like #4 Buck for HD or Federal Flight Control 00.
Not a fan of pistol grip only shotguns at all.

If you must have a pistol grip, get one with a stock also like Sandhill said IMO.
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Why do you want a pistol grip? I have a 870 home defense model 6+1, It's a champ, also not a fan of pistol grips.
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KSG with 00 Aguila minishells. 15 rounds ready to go.
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You can get pistol grip or field/target stock versions of all the best home defense shotguns. I doubt anyone’s ranking of them would change based on which versions you were comparing.

In other words, if you want a pistol grip, fine. If you don’t, that’s fine too. Just go buy an M4 and get it over with.

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Old 09-06-2019, 11:06 AM
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Pistol grip only shotguns might be good for robbing liquor stores, but are inaccurate for HD. Have fun hurting your wrist shooting it.

And may I suggest 3" magnum loads? The most expensive ones are obviously the best.
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Get a 'Raptor Grip' for your Remington 870 or Mossberg 500.

Best bang for the buck!

https://shockwavetechnologies.com/pr...remington-870/

https://shockwavetechnologies.com/pr...-mossberg-500/
LOL thank you for this! been thinking about the shockwave, but I do have a 870 just collecting dust
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The best pistol grip shotgun for home defense is one that also has a shoulder stock. "Best" in the sense that you might actually be able to hit the bad guy with it. Something like this: https://www.big5sportinggoods.com/st...27/_/A-3691003
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Ian and Karl cover this pretty well.

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Mossberg 500 12 gauge 18.5 barrel with junior stock
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The best pistol grip shotgun for home defense is one that also has a shoulder stock. "Best" in the sense that you might actually be able to hit the bad guy with it.
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https://www.tombstonetactical.com/ca...k-pistol-grip/

I like hunterb’s set up.
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Beretta 1301, and whatever pistol grip stock you like best. I hunt with Beretta, carry a Beretta, HD with a Beretta. Accurate and reliable.
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For HD I like the Ar style (pistol grip with shoulder stock). Can maneuver with 1 hand (dialing 911, etc.) yet maintain control of the firearm (pointing or attemped disarm).
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Just to screw things up how about the American Gun Craft bulldog. eleven inch barrels, pistol grip, 12 gauge, and not a fire arm until the caps are put on the nipples because it is black powder meaning you can load it as heavy or light as you want. Rock salt to 12 gauge. Two shots individually fired and with an over all length of 17 inches very easy to swing. Just a thought, and no license, permit and California legal. Just order and they mail it to you directly.
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Get a Knoxx pistol grip. It takes out all the recoil.
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Just to screw things up how about the American Gun Craft bulldog. eleven inch barrels, pistol grip, 12 gauge, and not a fire arm until the caps are put on the nipples because it is black powder meaning you can load it as heavy or light as you want. Rock salt to 12 gauge. Two shots individually fired and with an over all length of 17 inches very easy to swing. Just a thought, and no license, permit and California legal. Just order and they mail it to you directly.
Under CA laws...

Because it is a blackpowder muzzle loading firearm, it is considered an "antique firearm" under CA laws. [PC 16170(b)]

Because it uses a percussion cap ignition system, it is also an "antique firearm" that is exempt from CA generally prohibited weapons laws. [PC 16170(c)(1)]

Which means the following exemptions to CA firearm laws applies...

"Antique firearms" [PC 16170(b)] are only exempt from the following CA firearm laws:
01. Infreqent transfers. [PC 16520(d)(1)]
02. CA DROS. [PC 16520(d)(2)]
03. Operation of law transfers. [PC 16520(d)(3)]
04. "used firearm" transfer laws. [PC 16520(d)(4)]
05. Unloaded handgun open carry laws. [PC 16520(d)(5)]
06. Unloaded long gun open carry laws. [PC 16520(d)(6)]
07. Requirement to be a CA FFL dealer in order to transfer it. [PC 16520(d)(7)]
08. CA FFL dealer requirements when transferring firearms. [PC 16520(d)(8)]
09. Required minimum age to transfer. [PC 16520(d)(9)]
10. Required identifying marks/engravings on handguns. [PC 16520(d)(10)]
11. 10 day waiting period. [PC 16520(d)(11)]
12. PPT requirement to transfer through CA FFL dealer. [PC 16520(d)(12)]
13. Registration requirement for importing into CA and requirement to use CA FFL dealer to legally import into CA. [PC 16520(d)(13)]
14. Requirement to be licensed as a manufacturer in order to legally make in CA. [PC 16520(d)(14)]
15. Residential firearm storage requirements. [PC 16520(d)(15)]
16. "home built firearm" marking/engraving and registration requirements. [PC 16520(d)(16)]

In addition to the above, specific types of "antique firearms" [PC 16170(c)] are also exempt from these additional CA firearm laws: [PC 17700]
01. Camouflaging firearm container laws.
02. Cane gun laws.
03. Unrecognizable firearm laws.
04. Short Barrel Rifle laws.
05. Short Barrel Shotgun laws.
06. Unconventional pistol laws.
07. Undetectable firearm laws.
08. Wallet gun laws.
09. Zip gun laws.
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Here's a nice HD shotgun someone is selling on the markletplace OP:
https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1542138
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Just to screw things up how about the American Gun Craft bulldog. eleven inch barrels, pistol grip, 12 gauge, and not a fire arm until the caps are put on the nipples because it is black powder meaning you can load it as heavy or light as you want. Rock salt to 12 gauge. Two shots individually fired and with an over all length of 17 inches very easy to swing. Just a thought, and no license, permit and California legal. Just order and they mail it to you directly.
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Not enough info.

Do you mean pistol grip with a stock or without a stock? Pump or Semi Auto?

The question of "which is best" for any gun is almost always debatable and seldom is there any consensus...best pistol, best rifle, best 1911, etc. With that said, however, the Benelli m4 is most certainly ONE of the best. But it has a stock. And it's a semi auto.
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My HD "shotgun" is a 12 gauge Remington 870 with a +2 factory extension, but I may ditch the extension as I don't trust it 100% not to cause a jam. Remington now makes a 870 6+1 with long magazine tube, instead of having an extension.

I probably would have done something already about the extension if the 870 was my only HD weapon, but I have a 9 mm in the night stand.

4+1 is plenty. Get a stock. If you aren't going to practice a lot, consider a quality auto loader. It is too easy to short shuck a pump under stress, if you aren't well practiced. Remington or Mossberg, but a M4 if you have the bucks or have a high probability of needing a HD gun.
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For hd / sd shotguns here, there's an 1187SP in the corner of my side of the bedroom, and a Mossberg pump gun in 20, with an 18" interchangeable choke barrel.

If I decided to change to a pump gun, I'd go Ithaca in an instant. Workmanship and smoothness on a well taken care of older gun will make you smile.

There's also a kind of last ditch sg near the front door but not visible from the outside. It's a Stevens 310 iirc, 12 ga double, side b side. Barrels were cut down and re-regulated to 30 feet. The stock was shortened to get an overall length of 26-1/2 inches. From 8-10 feet away, it makes a hole in the target you could shove a softball through.
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Pistol grip only shotguns might be good for robbing liquor stores, but are inaccurate for HD. Have fun hurting your wrist shooting it.

And may I suggest 3" magnum loads? The most expensive ones are obviously the best.
LOL. GOOD advice.
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