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Old 02-22-2018, 7:36 PM
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How could your rifle be an M4? Aren't those full auto or burst fire?

You must read better that I do but maybe you are younger. Submitted everything on Monday an started getting incompletes today. Who would think that your spouse's CDL would not be acceptable evidence of where she lives although apparently my CDL is acceptable as to where I live and her CDL was good enough when she DROSed her last handgun. So why do I need to show where she lives? Will she not have to provide that information when she completes her part of the AW registration process?
They want to be sure to co-registrant currently lives at the same address as the primary. Drivers licenses can have addresses that are up to 5 years old on them. I agree that it's unreasonable that they even care, but that's their reason for the other forms of proof of residence

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Old 02-22-2018, 7:39 PM
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Remember that a signed one-sentence $0 "rental agreement" between you and your co-registrant is acceptable.

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Old 02-23-2018, 1:58 PM
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Remember that a signed one-sentence $0 "rental agreement" between you and your co-registrant is acceptable.

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I just took a photo of our truck registration and redid them. All are now in progress at this point. With regard to joint or co-registration do we need to wait until they approve my submissions or can she start her co-registration at this time? What information will she need? Am I correct that she will need her own CFARS account? Will she have to submit any photos and descriptions or will my CRIS numbers suffice?
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I'm still confused whether featureless homebuilds should be volreg'd or not.
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I'm still confused whether featureless homebuilds should be volreg'd or not.
You only need to consider this option if you built from an 80% and used your own serial number. Unless the AB-857 regs are repealed, every self-serialized firearm will need to be VolReged. If you built it from a 100% lower you purchased then it came with a serial number that CA DOJ accepts as legal.
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How could your rifle be an M4? Aren't those full auto or burst fire?

You must read better that I do but maybe you are younger. Submitted everything on Monday an started getting incompletes today. Who would think that your spouse's CDL would not be acceptable evidence of where she lives although apparently my CDL is acceptable as to where I live and her CDL was good enough when she DROSed her last handgun. So why do I need to show where she lives? Will she not have to provide that information when she completes her part of the AW registration process?
Just an FYI, every 5.56 semi auto Colt listed on it's website with one exception, is shown as model: "M4 Carbine" and that is what is on the receiver. The one exception is the AR15 A4, which is listed as just that, Model AR15A4. The 9mm and 7.62 variants also have different model names.
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So, what drawbacks are there to registering?

I heard that you may forfeit your 4th amendment rights by registering.

I also heard that 911 may have delayed response due to RAW possession.
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Just an FYI, every 5.56 semi auto Colt listed on it's website with one exception, is shown as model: "M4 Carbine" and that is what is on the receiver. The one exception is the AR15 A4, which is listed as just that, Model AR15A4. The 9mm and 7.62 variants also have different model names.
Did not know that.
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So, what drawbacks are there to registering?

I heard that you may forfeit your 4th amendment rights by registering.
Not yet, gives it a few years.

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I also heard that 911 may have delayed response due to RAW possession.
That's total BS.
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You only need to consider this option if you built from an 80% and used your own serial number. Unless the AB-857 regs are repealed, every self-serialized firearm will need to be VolReged. If you built it from a 100% lower you purchased then it came with a serial number that CA DOJ accepts as legal.
So I guess if it were a 0-80% featureless homebuild that wasn't serialized, no need to volreg?
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Not yet, gives it a few years.



That's total BS.
Thank you.

I just want to be sure I'm not giving anything up moving forward.
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So I guess if it were a 0-80% featureless homebuild that wasn't serialized, no need to volreg?


No need to register at all of it isnít a firearm yet. Unless you go to 81% or more.


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What about a stripped lower that I have? Can't register it because it's not complete right? So I would have to go featureless if I build it after deadline?

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What about a stripped lower that I have? Can't register it because it's not complete right? So I would have to go featureless if I build it after deadline?

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You wonít be able to register it as an assault weapon. It would have had to be a complete and functional bullet button weapon with features prior to 1/1/17.


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Old 02-24-2018, 8:33 AM
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No need to register at all of it isnít a firearm yet. Unless you go to 81% or more.
Thank you. So if built, obviously it needs to be featureless, but does it need to be registered (obviously not as AW, but registered nonetheless)? And if so, I suppose first one should apply for a serial with the DOJ?
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Two questions for those that submitted and got approval letters:

1. Did you take your photos with or without your Scope/ Red Dot/ Magnifier/ Bipod? My optics and bipod are all quick release.

2. What size photos did those who submitted and got approval end up going with? 600 x 450?
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1. Did you take your photos with or without your Scope/ Red Dot/ Magnifier/ Bipod? My optics and bipod are all quick release.

2. What size photos did those who submitted and got approval end up going with? 600 x 450?
1. Without anything, not even a magazine, less information is better.

2. Mine were 1600 x 1200
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1. Without anything, not even a magazine, less information is better.

2. Mine were 1600 x 1200

Thanks did you remove flip up sights as well?
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Thanks did you remove flip up sights as well?
I'd say remove everything that is an accessory. Why do they need that information? They didn't even ask for it.
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You wonít be able to register it as an assault weapon. It would have had to be a complete and functional bullet button weapon with features prior to 1/1/17.


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For those that have submitted and got approval letters, if you have Cal Multi on the lower did you choose "Firearm with interchangeable barrels?" Or did you pick a specific cal?
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Registration CF
I filled everything out for my 1st rifle and added it to my pending cart. I then filled out info for my 2nd rifle but could not upload pictures as the form was populated with pictures from my 1st rifle.
I moved the first rifle from pending to the cart and filled out the form again for the 2nd. This time the drop down for selecting the file to upload did not work, no drop down button.
I logged out and logged back in thinking i could start over, this time my first rifle was gone. I logged out and in again and my 1st rifle was back in the pending cart. clicking on the first rifle in the cart give me an "unexpected error". Now i'm stuck and can't do anything.
I submitted the errors via the web site. Hopefully they fix it before June.

Any suggestions for adding additional rifles? Is there some trick or step I missed?

Also - On the rifle features, I did not select forward pistol grip, because I took them off for the pictures. In the notes I wrote "this rifle can accept a forward pistol grip". Has anyone else done this?

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Two questions for those that submitted and got approval letters:

1. Did you take your photos with or without your Scope/ Red Dot/ Magnifier/ Bipod? My optics and bipod are all quick release.

2. What size photos did those who submitted and got approval end up going with? 600 x 450?
1) I took the scopes, bipod, bipod mount (for Picatinny rail), and magazines off/out of my rifles.

2) I took 640 x 480 photos (about 80KB each one), and used the app suggested in the Guide to strip the metadata.

3) I included the fifth "Optional Photo" with a serial number close-up, to avoid any "uncertainties."

I completed and submitted (cringe) the registration on Monday 19 February , and got the "approved and registered" document in the mail Saturday 24 February.

I thought that rather quick. It restored my faith in the system.

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For those that have submitted and got approval letters, if you have Cal Multi on the lower did you choose "Firearm with interchangeable barrels?" Or did you pick a specific cal?
Two of my rifles were "Caliber Multi," and one was "Caliber .223/5.56"; I chose "Firearm with interchangeable barrels" for all of them and they went through.
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Thanks did you remove flip up sights as well?
I didn't take the flip-ups off of one of them, I couldn't be bothered with it . . . !
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I filled everything out for my 1st rifle and added it to my pending cart. I then filled out info for my 2nd rifle but could not upload pictures as the form was populated with pictures from my 1st rifle.
I moved the first rifle from pending to the cart and filled out the form again for the 2nd. This time the drop down for selecting the file to upload did not work, no drop down button.
I logged out and logged back in thinking i could start over, this time my first rifle was gone. I logged out and in again and my 1st rifle was back in the pending cart. clicking on the first rifle in the cart give me an "unexpected error". Now i'm stuck and can't do anything.
I submitted the errors via the web site. Hopefully they fix it before June.

Any suggestions for adding additional rifles? Is there some trick or step I missed?

Also - On the rifle features, I did not select forward pistol grip, because I took them off for the pictures. In the notes I wrote "this rifle can accept a forward pistol grip". Has anyone else done this?

You might try another browser to see the error better or how to correct it.

You donít need to volunteer that or any other optional future modifications you may do. Itís just not relevant.
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So I wanted to add a LAW folding stock mechanism to my rifle after I register it. Can I do that after registration or do I need to to take the pic with it on?


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So I wanted to add a LAW folding stock mechanism to my rifle after I register it. Can I do that after registration or do I need to to take the pic with it on?


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FYI, my vepr 12 had to be entered to be produced by VYATSKIE POLYANY and not just Russia. Apparently, Molot Oruzhie translates in their system into Vyatskiye Polyany Molot Machine-Building Plant, which because there is a character limit, is now VYATSKIE POLYANY and they wanted that. I was confused as Vyatskie Polyany is a town in Russia in which this thing is produced, and so its like a gun made by "Springfield Armory" in Springfield, MA being registered as produced by "Springfield" which would make zero sense because they can't be arsed to go by its full name or chosen un-translated name.

A Kriss Vector CRB (carbine), had to be registered in the caliber it is listed on the little metal insert in the receiver, and they would not take multi caliber designations even tho technically I think I can send it in to be converted into say 10mm or 9mm (its .45 acp).

The rest of my AR10/15s were able to be registered as multi caliber, even if some of the uppers / barrels had markings that showed their caliber. They had questioned me about two of them which lacked "MULTI" engraving (Anderson poverty ponies had them, so was easy to register), and had to be convinced with additional images that they were in fact unmarked with any caliber information and have to register as MULTI and came with caliber information as "8888" in the acceptance letter.
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Just touching back on the Raddlock question I had. Howcome no vendors sell the standard Raddlock x7? Searches say it 'was banned' Jan 1st. But multiple people said they got their registration approved with it? Was it with the relock device?

Where can I get a standard Raddlock x7? Any other suggestions for BB besides the obvious standard?
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I filled everything out for my 1st rifle and added it to my pending cart. I then filled out info for my 2nd rifle but could not upload pictures as the form was populated with pictures from my 1st rifle.
I moved the first rifle from pending to the cart and filled out the form again for the 2nd. This time the drop down for selecting the file to upload did not work, no drop down button.
I logged out and logged back in thinking i could start over, this time my first rifle was gone. I logged out and in again and my 1st rifle was back in the pending cart. clicking on the first rifle in the cart give me an "unexpected error". Now i'm stuck and can't do anything.
I submitted the errors via the web site. Hopefully they fix it before June.

Any suggestions for adding additional rifles? Is there some trick or step I missed?

Also - On the rifle features, I did not select forward pistol grip, because I took them off for the pictures. In the notes I wrote "this rifle can accept a forward pistol grip". Has anyone else done this?
I had the exact same problems getting photos to upload. Would not work no matter what I tried. Ended up having to do it on a tablet instead of my wife's laptop.
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Just touching back on the Raddlock question I had. Howcome no vendors sell the standard Raddlock x7? Searches say it 'was banned' Jan 1st. But multiple people said they got their registration approved with it? Was it with the relock device?

Where can I get a standard Raddlock x7? Any other suggestions for BB besides the obvious standard?
The device itself is not banned but I'm starting to think that maybe they quit making them. I can't find one place that shows them in stock. I bought all mine from Riflegear but it shows out of stock . Good luck.
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I received the following notice on one of my applications. I'm not sure exactly what they are looking for the BB picture... Any tips on what angle, etc I should be taking the BB photo from ?

The California Department of Justice has received your electronic AB 1135/SB 880 Assault Weapon Registration; however, it cannot be processed for the following reason(s):
Thank you for submitting your application. The photo provided for bullet button does not meet the necessary requirements to register your firearm as an assault weapon. Please review your photo and make sure all markings are legible before you resubmit. Please resubmit a clear photo of the bullet button. Refer to California Code of Regulations, title 11, section 5474(c) for more information: https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/a...let-button.pdf
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I received the following notice on one of my applications. I'm not sure exactly what they are looking for the BB picture... Any tips on what angle, etc I should be taking the BB photo from ?

The California Department of Justice has received your electronic AB 1135/SB 880 Assault Weapon Registration; however, it cannot be processed for the following reason(s):
Thank you for submitting your application. The photo provided for bullet button does not meet the necessary requirements to register your firearm as an assault weapon. Please review your photo and make sure all markings are legible before you resubmit. Please resubmit a clear photo of the bullet button. Refer to California Code of Regulations, title 11, section 5474(c) for more information: https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/a...let-button.pdf
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I submitted on February 10th, and the only e-mail I received was the Transaction Receipt showing the $15 charge. Under the CRIS transaction history the submission says "In Progress".

There are a few posts on here of those who have submitted after I did who have received their letters, so I'm wondering if something is causing a delay. Should I have received an e-mail beyond the Transaction Receipt? If the submission got kicked back, would I have received an e-mail?

What is the best way to make an inquiry on the status?
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I submitted on February 10th, and the only e-mail I received was the Transaction Receipt showing the $15 charge. Under the CRIS transaction history the submission says "In Progress".

There are a few posts on here of those who have submitted after I did who have received their letters, so I'm wondering if something is causing a delay. Should I have received an e-mail beyond the Transaction Receipt? If the submission got kicked back, would I have received an e-mail?

What is the best way to make an inquiry on the status?
You'll receive an email when everything looks good (email per AW reg.). Once you receive that email, eventually your AW letter will show-up. Or you'll receive an "incomplete" email with details of what to fix.

They really work at their leisure and there really isn't any structure that I can figure out on how they do things. You can use the report an issue log on the CFARS website, but 17 days isn't really that long of a wait. Other have waited months.
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You'll receive an email when everything looks good (email per AW reg.). Once you receive that email, eventually your AW letter will show-up. Or you'll receive an "incomplete" email with details of what to fix.

They really work at their leisure and there really isn't any structure that I can figure out on how they do things. You can use the report an issue log on the CFARS website, but 17 days isn't really that long of a wait. Other have waited months.
Thanks for the quick reply and confirmation about what to expect. I recognize that it's only been 10 business days with the holiday in between, but I always have to wonder when people who submitted after me are getting approval e-mails in under a week, and I'm left waiting.

I'll wait for awhile longer before contacting them, but it's good to know they'll e-mail either way.

I'll provide an update when there is one.
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Has anybody successfully done a joint registration where only the primary application was submitted and approved without the second one being sent in yet?
Or does DOJ waits for both applications before any one of them are processed?
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Has anybody successfully done a joint registration where only the primary application was submitted and approved without the second one being sent in yet?
Or does DOJ waits for both applications before any one of them are processed?
I submitted mine as joint and received my letter. My wife then decided that she didn't want to be on it, so I just left it as us.
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I submitted 18 firearms on 1/11 and I received the "wait for mail approval" email within 2 wks for all except one. Some went through without issue and others had kick-backs that were resolved, but the last one I have neither received confirmation nor kick-backs. The rifle is an Omega MP5 clone with permanently attached faux suppressor and I have no idea why it's in limbo. My scorpion with faux suppressor was resolved so I don't think it's the faux suppressor. It's making me nervous.
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