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Old 05-19-2018, 11:34 PM
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OP, what are you shooting at?

I was going to ask this too... So that I could be at least a mile away at all times.
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Have your dominance tested. Have an optmetrist examine your eyes and get a prescription if necessary. Then sign up for the SoCal Calguns skeet clinic to have a one on one with instructors for mount and gun fit. Make sure to pull Trapperjohn(clinic coordinator) aside for a consult on prescription shooting glasses. He owns an optics lab and knows his chit. I did all of the above and can't even tell you how screwd up I was. I had a rifle mount. I had a too low comb and cast was too centered. I could not get a solud cheek weld and was lifting my head off the stock when I took the shot. I was focused squarely on my barrel and bead to find a lead, not the other way around. I was rolling my shoulders and not my hips and knees so I was missing under. So much wrong looking back. Don Zeigler and CaptainDick figured me out and Dave fitted me with optics. You gotta get past the fundamentals before the mental/intuitive level kicks in.

I can tell you this much. When shooting a moving target you never look at the barrel, bead, or sight. The bigger or brighter the obstruction the more it blocks your shot and messes with your periferal judgment. Look at Kim Rhodes shoot. She holds low gun, watches for the target, locks onto target with eyes while lifting the gun and pulls the trigger when the stock touches her shoulder. Not at any time did she look at the barrel.
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. Look at Kim Rhodes shoot. She holds low gun, watches for the target, locks onto target with eyes while lifting the gun and pulls the trigger when the stock touches her shoulder. Not at any time did she look at the barrel.
Umm, that's what we all do

I only shoot sporting clays to practice for FITASC. It's an international game that mandates low gun, you can't mount the gun until you see the bird in flight.

So it's, low gun, call pull, see the bird in flight, mount the gun, kill the bird.

AT NO TIME SHOULD YOU EVER LOOK AT THE BEADS OR BARREL.

Everything you know about rifle shooting, is wrong for shooting a shotgun.
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I was going to ask this too... So that I could be at least a mile away at all times.
Lmao!
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Have your dominance tested. Have an optmetrist examine your eyes and get a prescription if necessary. Then sign up for the SoCal Calguns skeet clinic to have a one on one with instructors for mount and gun fit. Make sure to pull Trapperjohn(clinic coordinator) aside for a consult on prescription shooting glasses. He owns an optics lab and knows his chit. I did all of the above and can't even tell you how screwd up I was. I had a rifle mount. I had a too low comb and cast was too centered. I could not get a solud cheek weld and was lifting my head off the stock when I took the shot. I was focused squarely on my barrel and bead to find a lead, not the other way around. I was rolling my shoulders and not my hips and knees so I was missing under. So much wrong looking back. Don Zeigler and CaptainDick figured me out and Dave fitted me with optics. You gotta get past the fundamentals before the mental/intuitive level kicks in.

I can tell you this much. When shooting a moving target you never look at the barrel, bead, or sight. The bigger or brighter the obstruction the more it blocks your shot and messes with your periferal judgment. Look at Kim Rhodes shoot. She holds low gun, watches for the target, locks onto target with eyes while lifting the gun and pulls the trigger when the stock touches her shoulder. Not at any time did she look at the barrel.
Thanks for the advice. I'm going to make an appointment next week.
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Thanks for the advice. I'm going to make an appointment next week.
For wing shooting, seeing the target clearly is what you need.

Colored lenses which "amplify" colored targets is a big plus.
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For wing shooting, seeing the target clearly is what you need.

Colored lenses which "amplify" colored targets is a big plus.
Umm, I don't think we use the word colored anymore.
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Lmao!
I'm glad if you found it funny. To be honest, I feel pretty guilty for the comment considering your rational response to the sight thread I started on another page.
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Red dot.
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OP, if you're shooting clay targets you're not seriously thinking of putting any of this non sense on your gun, are you?
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OP, if you're shooting clay targets you're not seriously thinking of putting any of this non sense on your gun, are you?
Tritium bead or something like that on my HD shotgun, yes.

I'll leave my bird gun stock and work on my form, glasses and use the suggestions made here.
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To the OP if I may suggest... Scalarworks mount for a red dot sight, for you eyesight issue. It is mount relatively low. They have one for the Mossberg. It would probably behoove you to give it a shot.


https://scalarworks.com/shop/optic-m...con-rmr-mount/
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Have your dominance tested. Have an optmetrist examine your eyes and get a prescription if necessary. Then sign up for the SoCal Calguns skeet clinic to have a one on one with instructors for mount and gun fit. Make sure to pull Trapperjohn(clinic coordinator) aside for a consult on prescription shooting glasses. He owns an optics lab and knows his chit. I did all of the above and can't even tell you how screwd up I was. I had a rifle mount. I had a too low comb and cast was too centered. I could not get a solud cheek weld and was lifting my head off the stock when I took the shot. I was focused squarely on my barrel and bead to find a lead, not the other way around. I was rolling my shoulders and not my hips and knees so I was missing under. So much wrong looking back. Don Zeigler and CaptainDick figured me out and Dave fitted me with optics. You gotta get past the fundamentals before the mental/intuitive level kicks in.

I can tell you this much. When shooting a moving target you never look at the barrel, bead, or sight. The bigger or brighter the obstruction the more it blocks your shot and messes with your periferal judgment. Look at Kim Rhodes shoot. She holds low gun, watches for the target, locks onto target with eyes while lifting the gun and pulls the trigger when the stock touches her shoulder. Not at any time did she look at the barrel.
Totally agree with your remarks, Been there and now it's a lot more fun.
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To the OP if I may suggest... Scalarworks mount for a red dot sight, for you eyesight issue. It is mount relatively low. They have one for the Mossberg. It would probably behoove you to give it a shot.


https://scalarworks.com/shop/optic-m...con-rmr-mount/
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