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Old 12-16-2017, 9:18 PM
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When I pick up my new mini-14 I'll be back - I'd like some advice on adding a few things.

Thanks for the thoughts, folks.
Whats really nice is the new ones come with scope rings and a picatinny rail. Makes them very easy to scope.

I put on the spectre gear 2 point sling.

https://www.spectergear.com/ProductD...roductCode=941

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i just put a mini 14 in jail last night. i got the stainless version at big 5. i think it's really pretty! i LOVE my AR.... but i wanted something to use with iron sights at our service rifle matches (no optics allowed... and i can no longer just not turn on the red dot on the AR since we changed it to a Vortex that has that little tree in it... ya... like my technical term? haha and also couldn't fold the rear sight up since the scope went over it... so just took it off!)


so is that a version i can get the barrel threaded? and if so, would i want to (other than i think that compensators look cool) and is the barrel the correct diameter that i can buy normal comps if i did get it threaded? what about the front site. it's really close to the end of the barrel. is it moveable, if i thread it?

sorry... mini 14 total newbie! (but i'm really excited to pick it up next week!)
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http://amegamounts.com/
Rail system for the Mini. I have one on my stock Mini. I like it.
For great Mini information check out www.perfectunion.com
I to, do not understand all the Mini hate. I have 2 Mini 14. One is an ASI custom. Very accurate! Great rifles. I also have 3 AR 15's, 1 JP and 1 Spikes and 1 mixed, 2 JP AR 9's.
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i just put a mini 14 in jail last night. i got the stainless version at big 5. i think it's really pretty! i LOVE my AR.... but i wanted something to use with iron sights at our service rifle matches (no optics allowed... and i can no longer just not turn on the red dot on the AR since we changed it to a Vortex that has that little tree in it... ya... like my technical term? haha and also couldn't fold the rear sight up since the scope went over it... so just took it off!)


so is that a version i can get the barrel threaded? and if so, would i want to (other than i think that compensators look cool) and is the barrel the correct diameter that i can buy normal comps if i did get it threaded? what about the front site. it's really close to the end of the barrel. is it moveable, if i thread it?

sorry... mini 14 total newbie! (but i'm really excited to pick it up next week!)
It can be done, but the front sight needs to be moved back, requiring machining, and the end of the barrel needs turned down on a lathe to make it small enough for a 1/2x28 die to thread it. It is probably cheaper to get an intermediary to get you a Mini14 tactical out of state and remove the flash hider.
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http://amegamounts.com/
Rail system for the Mini. I have one on my stock Mini. I like it.
For great Mini information check out www.perfectunion.com
I to, do not understand all the Mini hate. I have 2 Mini 14. One is an ASI custom. Very accurate! Great rifles. I also have 3 AR 15's, 1 JP and 1 Spikes and 1 mixed, 2 JP AR 9's.
Congrats, I found a factory new wood stock for my stainless and Techsights for it in case I want that mini Garand look
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The Mini is great for what it is! Decent for everything else & not so great as a bench target rifle...... For some reason Internet lore has made any rifle thats 4 MOA'ish junk! Accuracy is rad!!!! And there are tools for that! But what on earth hasn't been taken with a 4 moa rifle....?

Never felt under-gunned with a mini..... Protects my home & my family!
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I've got credit at Turners and have been toying with the idea of picking up a Mini 14. Was thinking of getting a stainless/wood ranch rifle but saw they have the target on sale as well. While I prefer the wood stock, the target looks interesting.

How effective is the harmonic dampener? Is the target noticeably more accurate than a non-target model?

I have never fired a mini but for the price it looks like a really fun range toy to go ring steel with.

If I pick one up, do I want a ranch rifle or target?
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I want one but I can buy an SCR lower and slap my AR uppers on it for less money.

But I will buy a Mini one day. I wish they accepted AR mags.
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I've got credit at Turners and have been toying with the idea of picking up a Mini 14. Was thinking of getting a stainless/wood ranch rifle but saw they have the target on sale as well. While I prefer the wood stock, the target looks interesting.

How effective is the harmonic dampener? Is the target noticeably more accurate than a non-target model?

I have never fired a mini but for the price it looks like a really fun range toy to go ring steel with.

If I pick one up, do I want a ranch rifle or target?
I think the ranch rifle is a little more flexible with ammo. the target is .223 only.
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I think the ranch rifle is a little more flexible with ammo. the target is .223 only.
I had forgotten the target only takes .223, thanks for pointing that out.
I've got an LWRC which I feed both .556 and .223 so I've got ammo either way. Mostly curious if the target is significantly more accurate than the standard ranch.
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My last 582 series was 1.5 to 2 MOA with almost any ammo I tried, except Barnaul.
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What's the story with production on the target model?
Turners got a whole bunch in, but I'd never seen them before in person. They also don't appear to be listed on the Ruger website. Are these regular production models?
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Old 12-28-2017, 1:45 PM
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My new 583. My new production matching wood handguard from Accuracy Systems had a crack, so I put on the Choate. They are sending me a replacement as we speak. My new "home and ranch" gun. It really is an M1 Carbine with a hard on. The inland (that was doing house duty) went back into the safe today.

7 lbs even on the scale with the Choate handguard.



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Old 12-30-2017, 7:21 AM
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Here is my stainless196 series Mini-14 update picture: The strut I had on interfered with the bayonet lug. It is a John Masen Front sight/muzzle brake/bayonet lug combo. It gives the same sight picture as an M16A1. Last one of these I used cut group size dramatically because of the superior sight picture it gives over the mile High front sight post. The 583 will be the house gun, and the stainless will be my truck gun for up in the woods.

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If you cut an inch off the butt? The aperture sights work better, and it becomes a handy carbine.







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Fellas, whats an acceptable price for a Mini-14? Big 5 has a black stocked Mini for $950. Is that overpriced or should I fish for a better deal?
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Fellas, whats an acceptable price for a Mini-14? Big 5 has a black stocked Mini for $950. Is that overpriced or should I fish for a better deal?
That is about the going price for the 583 series. Big 5 will be cheaper than a LGS, usually. I gave $875 for both my Min-14 and Mini-30 at my LGS, where the owner is a friend. He ordered them new for a little over $700 plus his shipping from a wholesaler. They are not cheap.
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Fellas, whats an acceptable price for a Mini-14? Big 5 has a black stocked Mini for $950. Is that overpriced or should I fish for a better deal?
At Big 5 you have to wait for it to go on sale to get it at a regular price.

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...&type_id=32592 prices here are $746 to $900 with most being $800 to $850 or so.
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I would find a tactical model with threaded barrel so you can put a muzzle brake on it. Riflegear has them

https://www.riflegear.com/p-2891-rug...syn-black.aspx

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I would find a tactical model with threaded barrel so you can put a muzzle brake on it. Riflegear has them

https://www.riflegear.com/p-2891-rug...syn-black.aspx
I like that, thanks for the heads up.
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That is about the going price for the 583 series. Big 5 will be cheaper than a LGS, usually. I gave $875 for both my Min-14 and Mini-30 at my LGS, where the owner is a friend. He ordered them new for a little over $700 plus his shipping from a wholesaler. They are not cheap.
Okay, so it makes sense of the price I'm seeing.
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Anywhere from $750 up to $850 is realistic for a 583 series gun.

I paid $600 for my 580 series gun used (less than 50 rounds!) in 2005. It is a gray laminate model.

If you haven't heard,,, Only buy Ruger Magazines, period !!!! All others will fail no matter what they say.

Mini 14's give you the same firepower as an AR without the AR political BS.

I had mine before I had an AR.

Also as an added benefit If you run out of ammo, a Mini 14 makes a lot better club than any AR.

If buying today I would find a Tactical Model and install a Muzzle Brake. My gun doesn't have a threaded muzzle.

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Up in Nor-Cal in the foothills, we don't have Turners, Rifle Gear, etc. Mostly small LGSs. Used go for $850-$875 and new go for $950ish. Big 5 is a cheaper option up here. I intentionally went with 18" and wood stock, as I already have three 5.56mm Armalite platforms and a PTR91 for tactical looking. I got them to be my M-1 Carbine with a hard on (Mini-14), and M-1 Carbine on Viagra (Mini-30). I may put the stainless Mini-30 in a poly stock, though as it will be my truck gun.

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I get to pick up my stainless, wood stocked Mini 14 on Tuesday. My 10 days are up on Monday but being in a small town the two shops we have are closed Sunday/Monday, we do have a Big 5.

I did it backwards. At the end of last year I purchased a lot of 5.56 ammo and owned no firearms in that caliber. Next week that problem will be solved.

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(NOTE: Before the haters chime in, I already have 3 AR15s, an AK, an AR180 on a Nodak Spud OLL, and a PTR91...I am not saying the Mini is better than any of the above as an offensive weapon)

A couple years ago, I had a 582 series Mini-14 I loved, but I got pissed at it (long story) and had someone offer me too much money so I let it go, I have regretted it, as I think the Mini-14 makes a great little home/ranch/camping carbine that is not "in your face" tacticool.

SInce I registered 4 of my long guns, and have three featureless, I wanted another featureless 5.56. SInce I have three ARs, I wanted something different, and I prefer the Mini to the Kel-Tec SU16. Well, I was in my local gunshop last week, and I saw a nice stainless, non-ranch, Mini-14 196 series. As it happened, I had a Glock 21 that I never shoot, and was actually thinking of selling. Long story short, I traded the Glock 21 and some ammo straight across for the Mini.

I have had early Minis with the pencil barrels, and am aware of the accuracy issues. I recently had a chance to shoot a 185 series with an Accu-strut stabilizer and a Tech Sight adjustable rear, and we were getting 2 MOA, or slightly better with some loads. I ordered a Tech Sight and Accu-strut, so for A $425 Glock and $200 in upgrades, I should have a mini-that shoots 2 MOA.

Yes, If I was going to buy it straight out, I would have gotten the 580 series, but the trade was too good to pass up.
I'm in the market for another mini, sold the one I had a few years back and always rather regretted it. I can't find anything not to like really, and they'll shoot minute of bad guy all day long as far away as you'd have need to shoot at one.
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Some people read the weirdest things in between the lines of others posts. Like a huge rant about how no one needs a weapon of war. Yikes.

I love the Mini and will continue to shoot mine often, but face reality guys, itís a ranch rifle tool with utility. It will not shoot heavy 75-77gr bullets with its 1:9 twist, itís barrel is not super thin (and that is good on the newer ones) but without the free float ventilation it also doesnít support the same rate of fire that most floated heavy profile AR barrels can, and itís less accurate (be realistic) making it less effective if youíre outside 200 yards. Good gun, has a purpose, use it for its purpose.


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I like that, thanks for the heads up.


I highly recommend that model, it is what I have.


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Love my Mini 14. 1.5 MOA with loads I worked up over several years. We can never win over those Mini 14 haters, so why try? Mini 14 is a reliable and in my case accurate rifle.
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Lol yeah it's weird how nobody ever proves these sub 2 MOA accuracy claims despite me offering to pay them to do it.

Have you ever considered that perhaps "because internet" it's not worth 100 bucks to travel to wherever you are?

I'd be game to try... but it ain't worth the 700 dollars (airfare and rental car from your nearest airport) I'd have to spend to do it. plus, my mini isn't currently California legal.

So, tell you what - if you ever end up on Maui, look me up - and I'll give it a shot so to speak.
if I win, you keep your money but you pose for a pic on the beach across the road from the range I shoot at... wearing ONLY a coconut bra and grass skirt, (you can wear a Speedo under it if it's windy... see, I'm not a total douche) holding a sign that says "I love Minis" which will then be posted right here on calguns for all to marvel at.

afterwards, I'll buy you a beer - win lose or draw for being a good sport.



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Ruger keeps putting money into other projects and lets the mini sit on the shelf. They need to upgrade that rifle into beast mode. It would sell like hotcakes.
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The 583 series and Tactical models are light years ahead of the originals, with heavier, tapered hammer forged barrels and improved Ghost Ring and post an wing M1/M14 style sights. It was Bill Ruger who retarded the development of the Mini, and they went to town on it after he passed away.
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The 583 series and Tactical models are light years ahead of the originals, with heavier, tapered hammer forged barrels and improved Ghost Ring and post an wing M1/M14 style sights. It was Bill Ruger who retarded the development of the Mini, and they went to town on it after he passed away.


There is still a lot more they could do, like fix the rear site adjustability so you donít have to buy a techsight or just swap to selling that already on. Could be even better than that with a fast elevation adjustable M1A style rear sight.

Could have integrated forward rail instead of just barrel shroud so you donít have to buy Ultimak or Amega Ranges.

Could fix overgassed factory setup.

Switch to a 1:7 twist.


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I think the best thing ruger could do is deal with the mini14 mag situation....let them come with 10 round mags and make the 10 round/20/30 rounders more plentiful...
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They have Ruger factory 10s for both the 14 and 30. Jestice Arms and Chestnut Ridge sell Ruger factory 10/20 and 10/30 Mini-14, and the 10/20 Ruger factory mags for the Mini-30. 100% reliable.
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Late to thread. Went from OP, to here. Just want to share, I love my new in Ď83 (I think?) Mini and will never part with it

And yes I haz 4 assembled AR incl a Colt SP-1 upper and and and, whatever.

Great little rifle that shoots more then the barn door, (ours does anyway). I,ve seen a friend ring steel at about 525yds with his newer style And a red dot lol

I think it was a 24Ē x 24Ē plate.

Anyway.

Have a good weekend!

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