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Santa Margarita Gun Club Competitive Shooting Sports for Active and Retired Military, civilians and juniors

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Old 07-30-2008, 11:27 AM
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Default Upcoming NTIT (RATTLE BATTLE)

The Santa Margarita Gun Club will be hosting a series of practices and a National Team Infantry Trophy (NTIT) Match (also known as ITT or Rattle Battle) soon. This will not be a NRA sanctioned or registered match so the fees will reflect the lack of those costs.

For those interested, you should start forming your teams NOW. Teams should consist of 4 persons with the provision for one coach and one captain. The course of fire begins with a 70 second rapid fire match starting at the 600 yd line and finishing at the 200 yd line. The teams fire straight through to the 200, stopping to change yard lines. There is a team limit on ammunition that can be fired and it is up to the teams to determine ammo distribution.

There will be couple of practices dedicated to running through and familiarizing competitors and staff with the course of fire as SMGC has not fired an NTIT Match in quite some time.

The Board of Directors invites you all to join in an exhilarating day of rapid fire, long distance marksmanship and comrades; as we are anticipating the fun of reviving a seldom fired match.

Thank you,
Santa Margarita Board of Directors
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Old 07-30-2008, 12:48 PM
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***This match is restricted to Service Rifles as defined by CMP Competition Rules 12th edition paragraph 6.0.***
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Old 08-01-2008, 2:54 PM
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Sounds like a great shoot.
So there are four people per team, or six?
How many trigger pullers, and what's the role of the coach and captain? Do they shoot?
Looking forward to practice!
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Old 08-04-2008, 4:11 PM
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We are modifying the match to shoot teams of 4 instead of 6. We feel there will be a better response to the match as it is easier for people to form teams of 4 as opposed to 6. Also, we can form pickup teams easier w/4. Coach and Captain are not firing members of the teams.
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Old 10-09-2008, 6:05 PM
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The weekend of Oct. 25-26 is the practice in preparation for the NTIT. This particular match is a rapid fire fun time; BIG TIME. Individual, Service Rifle, shooters come out for pick up teams. DON'T BE SHY. This is a blast, literally.

The Marines, and maybe some other Services, will show up to compete with us.

The basis of this competition is the replication of an infantry team's assault on enemy forces.
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Old 10-12-2008, 6:33 AM
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How can we get the full course of fire and all the rules and regs to this course? Also, have the other practice dates and actual match day been established to ensure that all team members will be available? Thank you.
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Old 10-12-2008, 7:15 PM
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Format defined in section 8.5 of the CMP rulebook.

Basic summary:

4 stages: 1) 600 yard prone, 2) 500 yard prone, 3) 300 sitting/kneeling, 4) 200 yard standing.

Shoot on 'E' silhouette for 500/600 and 'F' silhouette for 200/300.

It's all rapid fire, so you'll need magazine length ammunition for all stages.

Since the SMGC modified the match for a 4-man instead of traditional 6-man team, I'm not sure how many rounds are fired. The NTIT format has a total of 384 rounds for the team, with 50 second stages of fire. The original post indicates 70 second stages, so maybe the 384 round count still applies, with the extra 20 seconds reflecting the extra time needed for a 4-man team to get off the 384 rounds across the 4 stages of fire.

Read the rulebook for details on scoring, but scoring is simply a hit or miss. You get points for a hit on the silhouette. More points are given for each hit at the longer firing lines (4 @ 600, 3 @ 500, 2 @ 300, and 1 @ 200). It's up to your team to decide how many rounds each member will fire on each stage. Theoretically, your team could fire all 384 rounds on the 600 and 500 yard lines, which will maximize your team's scoring capabilities (assuming you skills are good). Apparently, the USAMU uses this technique for the NTIT.

Here's an article on NTIT:

Go to the USAMU SR page for a flash video demonstrating a prone stage of fire during NTIT:

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