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Best Mosin Nagant Scope Mount?
Jailed a Mosin Nagant 91/30 last week, trying to figure out what I want to do with the thing now. I have a Boyd's thumbhole stock on order, and a line on a deal for a Leupold Rifleman 3-9x50 Scope. Now I'm trying to figure out what I want to do as far as a scope mount, I'd rather not put any holes in my stock, and it looks like not all mounts are compatible with the Boyd's stock. I've seen the mounts that place the scope way up front, but those look awkward, and need a scope with long eye relief. I don't mind replacing the bolt to work with a mount if necessary. If anyone has any suggestions, they're much appreciated.
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IMHO the "best" mount is the Brass Stacker mount. No new holes, no bent bolt bar, and its compatible with your stock. And it allows for using the irons out to 100 yards too. But, like you said, it does require a long eye relief scope.
I suggest you reconsider. The Mosin lends itself to a scout type setup. The 'look' does take some getting used to, but after adding the Brass Stacker to my M44, and mounting a Leatherwood Hi-Lux on top, I really dig how it turned out. |
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I took the rear sight off and underneath is a 3/8" dovetail. I bought a Long eye relief scope and a set of 3/8" scope rings. Im real happy with that setup and its solid unlike those chinsy mounts you can buy online. No need for a bent bolt either with this setup. Super easy, basic and solid.
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This is a Jmeck Scope mount, reviews are great, I can still use my irons, compatible with both a scout and standard rifle setup, and no drilling or tapping required. Here's the site: http://www.jmeckscopemounts.com/ |
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The rifle you pictured is a Finn 28/76. Having a Finn Mosin will guarantee a good shooter whether with optics or irons. There are better scout mounts than the J meck. That mount will still require inletting the stock, and getting a bent bolt to work. get one like this, if the rifle will group. If it doesnt, don't bother with the optics Last edited by Howie44; 12-05-2013 at 8:21 PM.. |
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Your probably right about seeing the grouping before I even look at optics. We'll see how it is when I pick up this week and I'll go from there. |
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I put a Brass Stacker on one of my Mosins and I'm very happy with it. It was easy to install, makes no permanent alteration to the rifle, and it is a sturdy, solid mount made from quality material.
The only problem I have is the scope. I am finding it hard to justify paying 2 to 3 times the value of the rifle for a decent long eye-relief scope that will stand up to the recoil shock of the Mosin! |
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Maybe I'm just lucky, but I have the fixed 4X of this ^^^^ on the rifle I pictured above. I shot and hunted with it for more than 10 years now without a hiccup. Got a link for the Brass Stacker? |
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Guys, were talking a $150 rifle, one of 60+ million that may appreciate $25 in the next 5-8 years unless another million come into the U.S. this year. So, dont get all emotionable about a rifle marked with 60 million different armorers, arsenal, refurbish center, countryArmy/navy//unit/transfer stampings and markings that you are told to believe are significant so that you can believe your individual rifle is "SPECIAL".
SOOOO, Put it in the safe and watch inflation eat away at your $25 or D & T the reciever and mount a decent solid scope mount and bolt handle and enjoy your rifle, shoot it out to 800 yards and be amazed how accurate it is against $2000 dollar Remingtons and custom tactical rifles if you handload properly. Yes, you can buy a original sniper and be the talk of the town at the local 100 yard match or 50 yard line but bring some paper towels for the onlookers who are drooling, sooner or later you will run out of paper towels or droolers. Or, you can acually learn how to use/shoot one and again be be amazed how accurate it is against $2000 dollar Remingtons and custom tactical rifles if you handload properly. You can also build/buy a replica sniper for $500-600 made with much better mounts and modern optics (I said MODERN OPTICS) that will perform better and not devalue your "Ouu Oah" 100 yard original sniper rifle safe/bling Queen. Personally the best bang for the buck is the ATI mount and swept back bolt handle once you get over you emotional hysterical collectable conditioned state of mind. Only recomendation I have for the ATI bolt handle is to tighten up fit around original bolt handle stub and add a second screw (10-32 FL St. Stl. allen head) located on bolt handle root center for a rock solid handle, mount a MODERN 3x9x or 10X Bushnell tactical mil dot ($250) or higher power scope and you have a true modern rifle that is the best of both worlds, historical and tactical. You can also buy a repro and mount one of these scope mounts and add a modern scope yet retain the hystercal collectability of your original sniper but also bring paper towels along. |
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^^^^ Yea. He regulary confuses soviet Mosins in his rants with ones that actually ARE rare and or uncommon. I have a safe full of Finns that have appreciated 300-800% in value since I bought them. The carbines about 500%
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Yes! Rare as one in 60+ million if you can find/convince another hysterical collector to sell it to at your conditioned/emotional price, we all know how hard that is!
And thats why they "sit in the safe or full room". So, Get off the 50/100 yard line, let the droolers buy their own tissues, and take them out and shoot them at the 200-800 yard line, your only losing $25-$50 in "Collectable value. |
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Ol' 6 has probably missed his meds for a few days, or he's bored. But he does know Mosins. Last edited by kendog4570; 11-28-2012 at 8:44 AM.. |
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Yea. I'm an old Vet. He's a REALLY old Vet. Pretty pointless for people like us to argue any point, LOL!
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Not arguing, trying to be realistic and get more shooters out to the range and stimulate competition, help them to appreciate/shoot these old dogs within their budgets.
Us old timers wil be dying off soon and there is not much time to makeup and get these youngsters appreciating and shooting these rifles, we have to hurry and build up a political/nationalistic gun rights base to fight the gun grabbers, their will be plenty of collectables at competitive/reduced price around later after we do this or we wont have any to own/sell. |
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Brass Stacker link (can be bought from Amazon too): http://brassstacker.com/Mosin-Nagant...ope-Mount.html
As for low(ish) cost LER scopes, I've had great luck with this one: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/761...-reticle-matte 6mm... you are the expert here, and I don't mean to step on any toes, but arguments like yours drive me nuts. Monetary value matters to some folks, and not even a little bit to others. What a gun may be worth in the collector's market says nothing about how those not concerned with such things may, or may not enjoy, their rifle. It doesn't matter how much its worth. It doesn't matter how much its going to appreciate. Maybe the OP doesn't want to drill into it because that's not the way it came? That should be reason enough in my book. Values need not even enter the discussion. I know what you were saying, and I get your point. I just think there are better ways to make it. |
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I've used both the Brass Stacker and UTG/Leapers 1-piece mounts. Both worked fine with an LER scope. My only complaint would be that there's not a large selection of LER scopes in general.
I have had no problems using a scout scope setup though and I actually prefer the long eye relief. Now that I know how my MN's are shooting, I am removing the scopes and trying some Mojo sights. Last edited by kouye; 11-28-2012 at 12:19 PM.. |
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This thread =
My Soviet carbines have already doubled/tripled in value since I bought my last one just over a year ago (and the 91/30s have gone up too, especially rare ones). $25 appreciation over the next 5-8 years is pure BS, look at what carbines have done in the last two years alone.
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Ok, I'll admit I've gotten a little lost here. First off, is there any objections to this setup I previously posted. This would seem to satisfy both the shooter and collector parties. No permanent modifications, but it should make it a perfectly capable long distance gun, with a mount that seems like it will work just as well as a D&T mount.
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I had the same NCStar scope. Guess I'm unlucky, because the recoil shock shook that scope apart after about 30 rounds. I've been looking at a Simmons model that claims it is tested to 1000 rounds on a 12-gauge shotgun...$130. That's still pretty cheap for a scope, so I may put it on my Xmas list. Anyone try out the Simmons Pro Hunter 2-6x32 LER scope on a high-recoil weapon? |
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jake, I don't know if it will help but here's my M44 build:
That's the Brass Stacker mount, moved rearward and cut down. That puts the HiLux exactly where I like it. The rear pad is a limbsaver, the cheek rest is a Fulton Armory, the bent handle is the original bolt cut and welded, and the pull ring is welded on as well. Some might say I bubba'd it. I say its become my favorite rifle to shoot. And I own or have access to rifles 10-20x the cost of this one. On and as for accuracy? I guess I got lucky. This is a 2MOA gun with milsurp ammo. Hope that helps give you some thoughts or confirm for ya your on the right track with your ideas! |
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This guy (who I think is a member here?) Gave a good 2 year update on his mosin and Jmeck mount/scope. |
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I got a recommendation for this scope mount for my mosin. Heard many good things from the buyers. only down side is that you need a bend down bolt.
http://advancedrifleparts.com/ http://advancedrifleparts.com/installation.html No drilling or tapping required. Just replaces the rear sight. This is something similar to Jmecks scope mounts too I guess. pricing is pretty good I say |
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Hi my name is Roger Purcella and I own High Desert Gunworks, LLC in Hertford NC and I invented a scope mount for the Mosin Nagant rifle called the SM-1. I started with Mosin Nagant rifle because that is the rifle I had at the time plus I was looking ten years ago for a mount that would do what I wanted and there wasn’t one so I took my time and came up with this mount. I also realized with minor modifications will fit the SKS, AK-47, British 303, Winchester model 94, M1A1, and anything that is side mounted I can make work with this platform also I had a request to fit one on the Fn Fal. This is a patent pending item. The construction is made out of aircraft grade aluminum and has 5 screws to mount it 3 need to be drilled and tapped and 2 are for the stabilizer that goes around the front of the receiver. I made the stabilizer because of the problem with all side mounted scope mounts is the tendency for the mount to get loose because of the recoil from hard hitting rounds which is what the Mosin Nagant rifle is. The mount has a full pictinny rail so you can mount anything you want on it. I am curious if you would like to evaluate this product so I can get an honest mosin nagant scope mount (11).jpgabout it. I realize it isn’t the latest and greatest AR rifle platform but there are a lot of these rifles out there and people are starting to customize these rifles.
Thank You for your time and consideration Roger Purcella owner High Desert Gunworks, LLC Home number 252-264-4127 Cell 575-499-5684 Website www.desertgunworks.com Address 514 cove rd Hertford NC 27944 mosin nagant scope mount (11).jpg mosin nagant scope mount (10).jpg |
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They key with the scope rings, is that you need to get the ones that have two screws on each ring.
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This is one heck of a necrobump from 2012.
To Nagant50, why not post a new thread with your product?
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Maybe I'll slap on a hugenormous scope mount and make it go up another $25 Yup, and still waiting on that 'another millon' to arrive
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Unless it one of the very rare 40,000? Out of 60 million owned by the hoarders/embellishing "Collectors" just drill and tap for ATI mount (bed it) and go with bent bolt.
Let the owners of the 40,000 rare ones worry about their own rifles, you do what you want with yours. They can wait for the next 1 million. |
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Personally I don't care if every Russian Mosin is burned for kindling. However it is still destroying history and most collectors won't do it. Being this is the C&R section he would probably be better off posting the mount in another forum. Or developing one that doesn't involve drilling and tapping for this forum. Sent from my XT1585 using Tapatalk Last edited by capt14k; 04-12-2017 at 6:30 PM.. |
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I like the S&K scout mount better than brass stacker but the brass stacker does have a following.
But at least look at the S&K mounts. I believe S&K has been around longer. Brass stacker was not when I mounted my 1st S&K For a forward mounted scope I have been using a Bushnell 2 power pistol scope and they have held up with zero complaints except at times I do wish I had more magnification. The small/lighter the better and don't know if the bushnell 2-6 would work. The only Jmeck mount I have any experience with was trying to help 2 range mall ninjas with theirs , and they were chasing their zero all day. Turns out the band was slowly splitting after firing between the stock and rifle. took a little to figure out why the thing kept getting loose. Don't know if that is common or not. Stay far away from any B-square crap. I also use a ATI mount where you tap and drill the receiver and mod the bolt , mount that correctly and it'll be good. Mount it like an idiot and you'll have troubles.
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