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Old 06-21-2018, 10:04 AM
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Everything you wrote sounds good, except for the part I bolded.

If you or someone else gets the chance, simply ask them why they're "tightening things up": Did they have any problems with a CCWer?
I was told things like "camping" are not going to fly. I assume that probably means hiking and hunting too. I think those might have flown before, I don't know for sure on those if people really got a green light or not previously.
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:30 AM
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....... I was told they are tightening things up.......
There it is
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Old 06-21-2018, 11:01 AM
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I was told things like "camping" are not going to fly.
Did you ask them why? Why can't people out camping be able to carry to defend themselves?

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I assume that probably means hiking and hunting too. I think those might have flown before, I don't know for sure on those if people really got a green light or not previously.
The below from: https://sandiegocountygunowners.com/ccw/

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CAMPING

I am requesting a CCW permit to be used for self-protection for myself, family and personal property. My wife and I frequently travel by motorcycle on remote trails throughout California and camp in desolate and isolated areas. Because we have limited space traveling by motorcycle a rifle or larger firearm is not practical in our situation.

I am making this request because we have many times been confronted by aggressive animals at our camping sites. We have also come across other persons in desolate and isolated areas that have made us feel uncomfortable for our personal safety. On several occasions, we have had items turn up missing from our campsites.

Previously I was a resident of the state of Washington and held a valid concealed carry permit from that state for more than 15 years. My Washington permit number was issued by the Aberdeen Washington Police Department, permit number XXXXXXXX.

As a former Naval Officer, avid hunter and sportsman I am very familiar with firearm safety and proper use.Thank for your time and attention to my application, I look forward to your assistance in completing my application process.

Respectfully,

XXXXXXXX
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Old 06-21-2018, 11:03 AM
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Do you live in SD county?

If yes, have you applied with the sheriff for a CCW?

If yes, what is your application's status?

If no, why not?
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Did you ask them why? Why can't people out camping be able to carry to defend themselves?

The below from: https://sandiegocountygunowners.com/ccw/
I did not ask on that one this time, I was focused on my re-worked good cause and happy it got traction and I didn't have to defend it much. If I get the greenlight for training I will ask about some things, but as we know it's several months for that review board to look at things right now. As someone who is struggling here to get the traction that I got, I don't want to ruffle feathers too much.

My opinion is, and this is only me speaking here based on my limited experience so far... Outside of a work need.... Joe Citizen people are going to need to produce a good cause showing an elevated risk over the general public, documented in some way, and submit a good cause that is above the risk of engaging in ordinary public activities.

Again I want to stress that is only my opinion based upon two interactions with only one clerk. It may be easier, it may have gotten worse.

And I must thank SCDGO for being extremely supportive and pro-active helping me no matter how it turns out.


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There are now how to get CCW classes locally I think so it's worth it to take those classes first. They did not have them when I started out so get educated as much as possible, I think there has been great progress but
things are in flux. Run your good cause past the experts, if one can be an expert on such things these days.

Also I would advise to not be intimidated by having the dreaded "denial" on your "record". It's easy enough to explain it was denied because good cause was not sufficient, and not because you were a criminal or something.

There is no harm or foul with making the 1st appointment and seeing how your good cause is received. Not a dime spent either. Visitor parking is free.

It is after all, potentially our lives at stake here.

So even if I get denied, I'll look into the appeal process and even if that doesn't work. I'll just try again next year.
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Did the OP on this ever get his CCW or was he denied?

Threads like this one make me grateful for my Sheriff, where "Self Defense" is good enough for your good cause statement.
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Did the OP on this ever get his CCW or was he denied?
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Still waiting to hear!
When's your 90 days up?
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I did not ask on that one this time, I was focused on my re-worked good cause and happy it got traction and I didn't have to defend it much. If I get the greenlight for training I will ask about some things, but as we know it's several months for that review board to look at things right now. As someone who is struggling here to get the traction that I got, I don't want to ruffle feathers too much.
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My opinion is, and this is only me speaking here based on my limited experience so far... Outside of a work need.... Joe Citizen people are going to need to produce a good cause showing an elevated risk over the general public, documented in some way, and submit a good cause that is above the risk of engaging in ordinary public activities.

Again I want to stress that is only my opinion based upon two interactions with only one clerk. It may be easier, it may have gotten worse.
I doubt if Joe Average goes camping nowadays. That does put on in vulnerable position in a risky environment (isolated, no outdoor lights, no witnesses, no one to come to a cry of help, long LE response time if you do have cell coverage and spotty cell coverage at best).

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And I must thank SCDGO for being extremely supportive and pro-active helping me no matter how it turns out.


Anyone who has not joined, please consider it.......
https://sandiegocountygunowners.com/

There are now how to get CCW classes locally I think so it's worth it to take those classes first. They did not have them when I started out so get educated as much as possible, I think there has been great progress but
things are in flux. Run your good cause past the experts, if one can be an expert on such things these days.
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Also I would advise to not be intimidated by having the dreaded "denial" on your "record". It's easy enough to explain it was denied because good cause was not sufficient, and not because you were a criminal or something.
Yes, denial for insufficient GC is no big deal. Denial for lack of GMC will be looked into.

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There is no harm or foul with making the 1st appointment and seeing how your good cause is received. Not a dime spent either. Visitor parking is free.

It is after all, potentially our lives at stake here.
Without naming names or pointing fingers, some CGNers would rather whine than apply.

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So even if I get denied, I'll look into the appeal process and even if that doesn't work. I'll just try again next year.
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Well, the webpage still shows 1422 a week later, so my guess is that is not a "counter", but just text put up there by the IT guy. Who knows when or how often it will be updated....

http://www.sdsheriff.net/licensing/ccw.html
It has moved up now. I bet they do not update till they actually hand out the CCWP, and from what the clerk at my local sheriff's office told me, it sounds like they do not contact you right away about your approval but do it when the office has free time to do so, when they are not busy. I am thinking they just pick a day once a week or two then has a deputy do the rounds. I figure much more efficient for them to do it that way as well. So maybe the counter does not move for a long time than a sudden jump then a long pause again. I think having a deputy drive around and do residence checks and contact us that we are CCW approved is pretty low on their list of things to get done each day.

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Still waiting to hear!
My bad, that question was a bit premature, I misread the date of your first post and thought it was more than a year ago.
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It has moved up now.
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It says "1492" now! A 5% increase -- 70 CCWs -- in 1 month!
https://www.sdsheriff.net/licensing/ccw.html

If this keeps up (70 every 4 weeks at the low end, 5% increase every 4 weeks at the high end), that means we'll be at 1,562 to 1,567 ~June 25th. Hopefully, they'll switch to online applications, esp for renewals which can be handled all online, to increase the rate of processing initial apps.

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FWIW, I expect it to move again before July 4th. But that's just a guess.

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I bet they do not update till they actually hand out the CCWP, and from what the clerk at my local sheriff's office told me, it sounds like they do not contact you right away about your approval but do it when the office has free time to do so, when they are not busy. I am thinking they just pick a day once a week or two then has a deputy do the rounds. I figure much more efficient for them to do it that way as well. So maybe the counter does not move for a long time than a sudden jump then a long pause again. I think having a deputy drive around and do residence checks and contact us that we are CCW approved is pretty low on their list of things to get done each day.
My guess is the clerks are pretty much busy all the time on them, but the LEOs involved batch them for efficiency. But that's just a guess.
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