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Was reading through this thread, and didn't see any response to the question above. I like the black also... was wondering if anyone has duplicated this look and how they did it?
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A little google research says that the black finish is called "ebonizing". Sounds like there are many techniques. I'll keep researching and post what I find. If anyone here has done it, I'd really like to hear about how you did it and see some pics! Thanks
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Excellent post, AIMSMALL. Sir, if I may, I have a question regarding the permanent insertion of a single custom decal above the stain and underneath the polyurethane. I have a unique decal from my MW2 clan that I commanded that I would like to display permanently onto my sks buttstock. Which materials would you suggest I use for the decal itself, and what other materials and processes would you suggest I use to make this little dream of mine a reality? Thank you, sir, in advance.
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Let us know how it works out commander
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I just received a Bulgarian 74 kit with all wood furniture and it looks like I can just start with 220 grit and go to work. It doesn't look like stripping is necessary like with the Romy.
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I've done a few of those and the ones I had I did strip before sanding, the fatory finish is nicer then the romy's but still has a clear coating on it and what you don't want to do is try to sand off the clear. You will be better off stripping it and then sanding because you have less chance of damaging the stock the less sanding you do.
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Anyone wanna help in South LA/North Orange County?
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Any of the more recent posters have pics to share yet?
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it will take off the gloss and some of the stain but the stain soaks into the wood so you'd have to bleach it to get that out. Don't use spray on clear unless you have a special circumstance that requires it, the finish you get won't be as smooth as the wipe on poly.
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I decided to not do the bleached ebony finish as im a n00b. Right now i finished staining my furniture (wasr 10/63) with Minwax Dark Walnut stain (3 coats). I just got done putting on the first coat of Minwax wipe on poly. I'll post pics when im done with it!
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I kinda gave up on after my 2nd coat of satin poly, i just rubbed the steel wool and gave in to liking the way it turned out....i guess thats most important. Its got a darker relic'ed look. Here are before and afters:
Before: After: (before you haggle me about the mag, i did take the follower out)
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I am enjoying this thread. Seeing life come back to those old stocks
Year and years ago my dad showed me how to steam out dents. For most of the small ones, we used wet rags and a solder iron You do not need the larger surface of a clothing iron You can also save the sand paper dust from your sanding Mix the sandpaper dust with shellac and you have wood filler that is made partially with the dust from your stock. You can also place a few drops of shellac into the ding and sand over the top. The dust from the sanding then colors the shellac that is you filler You then stain and finish as normal I messed up my first stock by rushing the steps I also used a wet tack cloth to pick up sand dust. The tact was soaking wet and stood up little hairs of wood fiber I also started in December when I was bored and it was too cold and too damp to get a decent finish results Seeing this post makes me want to go attack a few rommys...
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BASE45, Cool video! Your furniture looks like it turned out really nice. I did have one question though, I noticed some dents/dings in the top hand guard in the sanding stages and then they seem to be gone later, did you steam them out or fill them? Maybe thats something you could ad to the video? Thanks for posting the video, I'm sure others here will enjoy watching.
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You can subscribe to threads without bumping them and this thread is a sticky so I don't see why you posted here unless you were just wanting to get the ad for the group buy in the thread.
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I have a Romanian stock with the black stripe on the end and although i've stripped it as much as i think is possible and sanded from 100, 220, 280, I still can't get rid of some remaining black. I'm afraid to sand it down any further. Should I bleach it?
I'm refinishing the furniture on a Maadi kit and the upper handguard is much darker than the lower. I think I'm going to try staining with sedona red to try and get them a little closer to each other but I'd love any suggestions if anyone has any. |
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I stripped my Romy G with some of the real costic stuff from Home Depot, not the orange, and stuff the the black stripe came off. You might try using the stripper again. Another way to strip a finish is to soak it in Acetone for a while (like 12 - 24 hours). I saw that on youtube, but I don't think it does any better than using paint stripper.
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Nice work...
Well done!
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Could be wrong but that wood doesn't look stock. I'd bet its a back and white lam to start with. Not dyed black.
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This is a stain and wipe. Start with a black (not ebony) stain, oil based. Wipe on heavy, leave it for a short time ( I mean short, as in a minute or so), wipe with the grain, heavily. I have pictures of a piece of 2x4 I did this on. Your wood needs to be pretty light for best look.
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If fact it is a U.S. made black and white laminate, even found the link to the seller. I'll see if I can find where I put it. Stain simply wont do that. (Also not the hg and pg - clearly not milspec)
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dunno, my test on pine looks just like that. Including areas that are near white with black in any pitting or harder spots in the wood along with the grain. Not saying that the stock isn't laminated. Just that there is more to it. We can simulate it pretty well without laminate. I am going to get some pieces of white hard wood to try to see how it looks.
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The store did not have any wood that was useful. I am bleaching some narsty ak furniture right now but that isn't going to be blacked. Here are the pine images though. Just a quicky. The rippling in the final pic is because this is just a raw 2x4 scrap which is rippled. Otherwise the finish comes out nicely with light dark. A white tining pre-treat would probably wrap up the deal on a real laminate stock that has been properly cleaned.
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I am a little concerned about tonights work. I was doing a pigment bleach job, it worked great, except the laminate upper handguard showed some strange fiber destruction. When it's dry I will be able to see if things have gone really bad or if it was just the effect of the water. The other solid wood parts showed now issues of fiber destruction and lift (forms a soft foamy layer that can be wiped off).
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Wood is still drying this morning but, yeah, be careful with the upper handguard. It is rough now, definite fiber destruction. I believe because of how it was bent the fibers were under tension and when softened sufficiently by the bleach they let go. Sanding should restore it, but we shall see.. some pics of the after bleach.
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The bleached wood is still drying, our local humidity has been very high.
Completed my other furniture restoration and I like it. Gunstock stain, 3 coats of wipe on poly satin. I first did gloss and stripped it, terrible look. Satin is very nice. I am very happy with the results. I decided to NOT go black on the bleached stock but to go blond with a golden pecan. Should be very nice.
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My grandfather does alot of woodworks so im hoping i dont have to buy a ton of this stuff haha
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This was awesome! Worked out amazing thank you!
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I'm sorry but am I missing something here? Have the original posters pics been deleted from Photobucket or is my virus software blocking the pics? Anyone else have the same problem with this thread?
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Pics are back up
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Replaced the crappy furniture on the Norinco NHM91 (TOP) with Birch Laminate from Ironwoods stained it with Red Rit Liquid Dye and finished it with Polyurethane varnish
Last edited by Speedpower; 08-02-2013 at 2:32 PM.. Reason: added pictures |
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