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Old 03-09-2018, 7:08 AM
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Default March Genesis - 400 MOA in the turret

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Old 03-09-2018, 11:27 AM
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I just ordered one from March Options, the first order they have taken. $5000.00 plus $50 shipping, they expect to start shipping in four (4) months. Orders are being taken now but cards will not be run until the scopes are received (as in you have about 4 months to save up/get your available credit level up).

No reticle options, no info on “accessories” at this time. BTW, March has done magic with FFP in regards the thickness of the reticle, NOT increasing it as you go further out and up in magnification. Since we (URSA) shoot at known distances (starting at 2000+ yards), we have no need for mil, just don’t want to lose the target in the crosshairs. My other scopes, which I’m selling off, are all SFP.

My only question is whether I will need a tall Pic rail (zero MOA) underneath because my barrels are 45” long. Still TBD.

The March Optics contact is George at (360)733-5351, option #1. Please be patient with George in his order processing because they have a new system and it will take a few minutes for each order.

Now to square this with the Good Lord.
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Old 03-09-2018, 12:59 PM
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Good find Oscar!
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Was about to post these pictures, and saw your post.







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I wonder if .416 Cheytac is a typo or an accidental giveaway?
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I wonder if .416 Cheytac is a typo or an accidental giveaway?
"March says there is 3 mile range with a “.416 Cheytac”. Well, there is a recognized .416 Barrett cartridge and a .408 Cheytac. March says the .416 Cheytac is a “special wildcat … developed due to licensing needs for Norway.”

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My only question is whether I will need a tall Pic rail (zero MOA) underneath because my barrels are 45 long. Still TBD.
at 6.66˚ you may have a very nice view of your muzzle. They are doing something extremely different inside this scope for sure.
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Wow 5k! Fantastic scope.
Just curious though, when will you need 150 moa windage.
The elevations range is great.


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Wow 5k! Fantastic scope.
Just curious though, when will you need 150 moa windage.
The elevations range is great.


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338LM 2500+
375 CT 3000+

Obviously depending on elevation and bullet
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338LM 2500+

375 CT 3000+



Obviously depending on elevation and bullet


I get the elevation.
I was talking about Windage.


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I get the elevation.
I was talking about Windage.


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375 CT 400 gr lazer

4000 yards
30 mph crosswind at 9 o clock would net you 74 moa windage

5200 yards
30 mph crosswind at 9 o clock would net you 99 moa windage

Of course it would be a .0005% chance of hitting anything
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375 CT 400 gr lazer

4000 yards
30 mph crosswind at 9 o clock would net you 74 moa windage

5200 yards
30 mph crosswind at 9 o clock would net you 99 moa windage

Of course it would be a .0005% chance of hitting anything

Incorrect, It would be a 100% chance of hitting anything (bullet has to hit the ground sometime) but only a .00005% chance of hitting anything close to what you were aiming at
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LoL.


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Video tells all - https://www.facebook.com/brt.shooter...1538383225774/
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Incorrect, It would be a 100% chance of hitting anything (bullet has to hit the ground sometime) but only a .00005% chance of hitting anything close to what you were aiming at
I'm sticking with the .0005%
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I'm sticking with the .0005%
50 millionths sounds better
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Harry
Notice that Stuart's rifle weighs 77 pounds.
I am going to need a bigger rifle!!!!
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Notice that Stuart's rifle weighs 77 pounds.
I am going to need a bigger rifle!!!!
You have Big Red
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Anyone get one of these yet?
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Looking at some of the latest pics of the unit, I am starting to see some improvements:

1) Some kind of beef up on the springs inside. I got from the video that the scope does in fact move inside the system and will kind of free float during recoil. No idea how fast it recovers and if it becomes an issue at high mags.

2) They beefed up the base. The proto looked wimpy and anemic, pinching at two points. Now it looks more like a decent width.

3) They have a riser system, so I think they are seeing the barrel in the image at extreme elevations.

4) Saw the image of a 2 mile view through the scope and the reticle didn't look too fat, I was disappointed that they went with a 1st focal plane. Still dosen't look fine enough because that center dot seems to obscure a bit too much of a 60x40 target.

I have a March 10-60x56 High Master that I use with my Recknagel adjustable and the glass is pretty ridiculously nice, very usable at high mags. I think the Genesis is just this scope put in a different body, and no complaints there because it's a damn near perfect scope in terms of the image. Really would prefer the 2nd focal plane option in the Genesis, my reticle is super fine.

Having to send my 10-60 HM to March USA for a problem soon, hopefully they are going to be able to service it in the USA. I sent my 8-80 March in about 4 years ago directly to Deon in Japan and they were good about it but it was slow, like 8 weeks. Talked to their customer support rep in Washington and they were very helpful and followed up with emails. When I missed a return call from them I called back that number and it took me to Grizzly's main number, so I think they are in the same building as Grizzly. Shiraz is a good guy so I am glad it's no longer Kelby's doing the selling/service.





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