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#41
10-11-2012, 6:00 AM
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Another guy saying you reacted reasonably. Gun or not, lifting a woman's shirt without her permission is unacceptable as an assault on your privacy. I would bet this is not the first or last time this lower life form will get punched.
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#42
10-11-2012, 4:28 PM
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1. What he did was worthy of an *** kicking.
2. At least you were able to identify an idiot without too much trouble. If he's stupid enough to do that, he's stupid enough to do something worse later and it's not worth hanging around people like that until something bad happens.
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#43
10-11-2012, 5:20 PM
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As for me I'll be one friend less ... but that's just me!! So "NO" you didn't over react!!!
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#45
10-11-2012, 5:47 PM
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Find him, get him to join, and then ban him.
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#47
10-11-2012, 9:10 PM
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I guess I'll join this dogpile. What a story! That was a very serious error in judgement on the part of this person.
I think you did him a big favor by reacting so strongly. It means he'll learn this lesson as fast as possible, and be all the better for it.
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#48
10-11-2012, 9:27 PM
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You're thinking way too hard about this.
An idiot made a choice to push this particular button. It wasn't an accident it had been thought about. He received a reaction that had to have been at least contemplated. Nothing wrong on your part. If I'm camping with my sidearm exposed, I'm going to react to someone zeroing in on that sidearm. You have a responsibility to maintain absolute control of your sidearm. You did good. Quote:
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#49
10-12-2012, 11:13 AM
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I think the reaction was entirely appropriate, considering you were CCWing in a public place. Your friend who thinks you overreacted is a dingbat.
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#50
10-12-2012, 11:19 AM
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Anymore recent news on the idjit who did the inappropriate thing? He needs to be velcroed to the ceiling, thx
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#51
10-12-2012, 4:46 PM
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Bug, it would also seem that letting anyone within this group know you have your CCW was a mistake.......and at this point you don't know who has told who and how many people now know that would never have known. remember: loose lips sink ships. in this instance it could make you a target of not just this idiot but anyone wanting to get a gun to use illegally.
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#52
10-12-2012, 4:53 PM
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If someone came up behind my wife, pulled up her shirt and exposed her revolver, she'd put him on his ***. If I was there and saw my wife having to react in such a manner there's a good chance I'd have drawn my snubby on him.
It was an idiotic thing to do. You should have hit him harded to prevent procreation and end an obviously faulty genetic line. Last edited by snubbyfan; 10-12-2012 at 5:58 PM..
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#53
10-12-2012, 5:39 PM
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I can see I don't need to say anything ... but that never stopped me. I think you should be commended for the self defense move you executed in a most unexpected situation. You can train and practice but to standup at an unexpected moment and deliver the punch on target that's good work.
Mike
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#54
10-12-2012, 6:05 PM
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its less about the "concealed" part and more on the "keep your hands to yourself", and respect others. your safety should be more important than your friends opinions, what if he had tried to "jokingly" grab your gun to mess with you?. hell no stay away from losers like that. you reacted fine. dont cave in to peer pressure, do what you think is right, and remember that YOU choose your friends, and who you hang around with WILL shape who you are. he sounds like an immature ***, dont be around him. period.
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10-12-2012, 6:13 PM
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He's over 40, and thought yanking up a womans shirt in public (aside from the CCW) was a smart move? And they defended him? Sounds like you need a new group of freinds.
BTW, your only mistake was not hitting him hard enough to guarantee whatever brand of stupid his genetic code carries isn't passed on to a new generation. People that stupid should be neutered for the good of society.
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#56
10-13-2012, 10:59 AM
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i see that Bugguts has been posting but not in this thread.......i admit to being curious as to how she handled her so-called friends. Bug, update, please!
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10-13-2012, 11:56 AM
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Oh sorry. LOL A couple of my other friends talked to her and let her know that it was not kosher and they carry also and would not have appreciated being grabbed from behind and having their gun exposed either. She doesn't get it and so I've just explained that I won't go places with her or the guy and they are of the same mind. It's not a huge loss as neither of them are people that I hang out with frequently. LOL
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#58
10-13-2012, 12:18 PM
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thanks for the update. had he done that with someone else, he might not be around to complain. i do hope that word of mouth re your CCW and/or the incident doesn't make you a target of further assault....because in my book, that is exactly what he did: he assaulted you.
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10-13-2012, 2:47 PM
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10-13-2012, 3:16 PM
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Lone Wolf ! Honey! How ya been? I'm not getting to our other forum much lately, but I'm glad to see you here. I missed you.
Just for the sake of argument, what would you have done differently in Bugs's situation? You have a good deal more training that most of us, so I'm interested. Be well. B
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#61
10-13-2012, 4:31 PM
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 Good to see you, too. As for me, I'll just say that me and chemo don't get along, and the chemo's winning.  I'm not sure where you got the idea that I've had a lot more training, I really haven't. Very little hand-to-hand-training at all. I've had firearm training in the past, but not combat type training. Which is irrelevant anymore, since I don't carry. What I could and would have done in that situation is limited mostly by the fact that I'm middle-aged and disabled, I simply can't push or hit near enough to have any effect. What I'd have had to do is yelp like I was being assaulted, and tell that thug to keep his hands off. Then I'd follow up by leaving, just like the OP did.
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#62
10-13-2012, 5:08 PM
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Great post Bugs. And I think you handled the situation perfectly !
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10-13-2012, 5:44 PM
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First off, I am male, and 41 yrs. old, so with that being said, I applaud your actions in this scenario, and if anything, I think you UNDERREACTED. If I were carrying concealed, and anyone came up behind me and lifted my shirt specifically where it concealed my firearm, and not knowing their intentions, I would probably break them in half.
This guys age, and the pre-existing knowledge that everyone in the group is carrying, or at least licensed to do so, SHOULD dictate a certain level of appropriate behavior. Also, as was mentioned repeatedly in previous posts, what the hell was he thinking just coming up behind you and pulling your shirt up? Just inappropriate, no matter how you look at it, that alone IMO justifies a beating. I suspect this douchebag was probably spoiled rotten as a youth by mommy, or a chauvinist father, and was never taught how to properly act/behave around women. Anyone in your group that does not fully understand the level of stupidity of this persons actions, is not worth associating with, you will be better of NOT being around them.
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10-13-2012, 8:29 PM
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Personally, I'm thrilled that Bugs hit him hard, but didn't kill him. For her sake, not his...
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10-14-2012, 5:59 AM
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Total DB to do that, Id avoid that idiot. Next time if some how you have no choice let them go in first and always be aware of your surroundings.
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10-15-2012, 7:53 PM
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I agree with everyone here. I dont think you overreacted at all. Take the CCW side of the situation out of the scenario and the results will still be the same. It is NOT ok for anyone to invade your personal pace and body. He should be happy you didnt press charges against him. Sorry this happened to you stay strong and safe.
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10-17-2012, 10:14 AM
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If it were me, I'd have twisted his arm, swiped his leg, and pulled ties from my side, and zip tie him to the ground. I take that kind of bull5h*t seriously. You are responsible for your weapon and to keep it concealed. Anyway you look at it, he is at solid fault. Over reacting? No. Dunno the kind of circles you travel in, but if I was out with any of my friends, especially if some of my brothers or their friends were around? And some random hanger on came along and lifted my shirt? One of my brothers would probably hook him good and tell him to GTFO of there and not come around our activities again. If your friends are trying to protect his actions, they have problems. No scale is used in this occurance. You are fine.
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10-18-2012, 9:33 AM
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Guy here, So you were walking and a person (you did not know who at the time) grabbed your clothing and you reacted by delivering a quick punch.
Well done.
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10-18-2012, 10:50 AM
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I agree with everyone here. The guy is a moron and deserved it.
Your reaction was top notch. Granted if he wanted to press assault charges it could have gotten nasty too but the fact that he grabbed at your gun (even if just your shirt) may have been reason enough for the self-defense as an initial reaction. Sidearms or anything about them is nothing to joke about. What if he had gripped it accidentally? Not to mention displaying the gun in a public place could have panic'd a nearby customer and had the cops called, then it's just a big mess.
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#71
10-18-2012, 10:59 AM
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New here but I'll pop in my .02
#1- I certainly would have reacted as strongly had I been carrying or not, I agree with the overwhelming majority here that it was assault. #2- This guy knew you carry and made a damn joke about it. Not something that imo should ever be joked about or played with. He showed blatant disrespect towards both you and your right to carry descreetly. All it would have taken was one prissy uptight 'person' to see it and you could have spent quite a bit of time with local law enforcement showing your card, them making sure it is 'legal'. Nicely handled. He's luck that's all he got. Last edited by Mrs Rabbit; 10-18-2012 at 11:06 AM..
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10-18-2012, 4:15 PM
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welcome, Mrs Rabbit!
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