Calguns.net  

Home My iTrader Join the NRA Donate to CGSSA Sponsors CGN Google Search
CA Semiauto Ban(AW)ID Flowchart CA Handgun Ban ID Flowchart CA Shotgun Ban ID Flowchart
Go Back   Calguns.net > INTERESTS AND ACTIVITIES > Gunsmithing & How To
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Gunsmithing & How To Pro, Amateur & WECSOG and Tutorials, Guides & OLL Build Instructions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-09-2012, 7:13 PM
swift swift is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 884
iTrader: 35 / 100%
Default >$80 to ship a stripped receiver for anodizing? What am I doing wrong?

The work from US Anodizing is highly praised on AR15.com. Victor quoted a good price for anodizing my completed 80% lower, but I need to pay shipping each way. UPS wants >$80 to ship it each way, which seems ridiculous.

I checked online and it is UPS policy is to ship handguns overnight. I would like to ship a stripped AR15 receiver. Is there something I can say when I declare the contents of my package that would enable me to get a better rate? (When I sent a stripped reciever to Orion Arms a year or two ago, I paid less than $40 for shipping.)

I will not misrepresent the contents of the package.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-09-2012, 7:20 PM
Akers Akers is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Murrieta, Ca
Posts: 1,356
iTrader: 27 / 100%
Default

Location?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-09-2012, 7:27 PM
kcstott kcstott is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 10,450
iTrader: 18 / 100%
Default

It's rifle, declare is as such and tell them to pound sand. If not go to Fed ex UPS as a problem dealing with guns in general.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-09-2012, 7:28 PM
swift swift is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: San Diego
Posts: 884
iTrader: 35 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Akers View Post
Location?
San Diego
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-09-2012, 7:35 PM
CSACANNONEER's Avatar
CSACANNONEER CSACANNONEER is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Thousand Oaks
Posts: 43,064
iTrader: 130 / 100%
Blog Entries: 4
Default

A stripped receiver is neither a handgun or a long arm. Since USPS only has restrictions about a non ffl mailing handguns, I'd just send it priority mail or flat rate.
__________________
NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun and Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor
California DOJ Certified Fingerprint Roller
Ventura County approved CCW Instructor
Utah CCW Instructor


Offering low cost multi state CCW, private basic shooting and reloading classes for calgunners.

CCW SAFE MEMBERSHIPS HERE

KM6WLV
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-09-2012, 7:36 PM
TKM's Avatar
TKM TKM is offline
Libertarian Space Cowboy.
CGN Contributor - Lifetime
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: May have been the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one.
Posts: 8,281
iTrader: 67 / 100%
Cool

Box it up, go to Fedex or Postal Annex and ship it off using Fedex Ground.

Nobody is going to ask what is in a package the size of your wallet.

Take all of the leftover money and go buy lunch. A really good lunch.



"Your rifle or gun can be sent directly to us for finishing. We are a Federal Firearms License (FFL) dealer. You can legally ship your firearm or receiver directly to us and we will also ship it directly to you." From the US Anodizing website.
__________________
“Sometimes you can’t make an omelette without breaking a few eggs, executing the hens who laid them on trumped up charges and setting the most rebellious henhouse on fire as an example to the others.”

Last edited by TKM; 03-09-2012 at 8:00 PM.. Reason: Almost had to start a business....
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-11-2012, 1:24 AM
joelukehart's Avatar
joelukehart joelukehart is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: huntington beach ca.
Posts: 957
iTrader: 2 / 100%
Default

An 80% lower is not yet a firearm. It's just a chunk of aluminum. Ship thru UPS and if they ask ask tell them its a "machine part".
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-11-2012, 4:17 AM
Chondro Chondro is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 81
iTrader: 4 / 100%
Default

The orignal poster clearly states that his 80% lower is COMPLETE so therefor in the eyes of the law it is now considered a firearm (right?).
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-11-2012, 11:01 AM
JagerDog's Avatar
JagerDog JagerDog is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: South SF Bay Area
Posts: 9,035
iTrader: 20 / 100%
Default

Fed Ex ground. You should declare it as a firearm (completed 80%), but there are no additional charges over normal freight.

USPS (since this is not a handgun in this form) is an option. To my knowledge there is nothing precluding it from going in a priority flate rate box.

You can go to Fed Ex website and obtain pricing. The Fed Ex Office stores are REALLY Fed Ex. vs, the UPS stores which aren't UPS an generally upcharge.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Support/Sup...spx?faqid=1118
__________________
Dems are better at corruption cuz they have so much practice.



#Blackolivesmatter

Last edited by JagerDog; 03-11-2012 at 11:16 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-11-2012, 11:05 AM
baih777 baih777 is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Torrance
Posts: 3,929
iTrader: 65 / 100%
Default

declare it as an auto part
__________________
Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
I'm Back.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 03-11-2012, 11:22 AM
paul0660's Avatar
paul0660 paul0660 is offline
In Memoriam
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Ukiah
Posts: 15,705
iTrader: 34 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by baih777 View Post
declare it as an auto part
Did you miss the part where he said he wouldn't lie?


US Mail is the answer.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-11-2012, 11:26 AM
r3dn3ck r3dn3ck is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,906
iTrader: 14 / 100%
Default

I say for incomplete parts "machined parts" and that's true and as little info as they need. Insurance value is for what you insure it for. No lie, no misrepresent, it's not a gun it's a receiver that's capable of being made one.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-13-2012, 11:53 PM
novalondon's Avatar
novalondon novalondon is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Yuma AZ.
Posts: 218
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

unless it is serialized and meets ATF needs as a stripped lower it is just parts or a block of metal. Small box, flat rate is under 7.00 with all the insurance you'll need.
__________________
01-FFL - Restorer and sales of old battle rifles
Smile, it makes then wonder what your up to !
Leave it cleaner than you found it, one day you may come back to it.
Ooh Rah- 1969-1978
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 03-13-2012, 11:58 PM
JNunez23's Avatar
JNunez23 JNunez23 is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Sherman Oaks
Posts: 2,785
iTrader: 13 / 100%
Default

Don't declare or insure it.
__________________
"Be more concerned with your character than your reputation, because your character is what you really are, while your reputation is merely what others think you are."
John Wooden

Need a holster?, please email us at StrappedKydex@gmail.com for any holsters, mag carriers, and more. Custom jobs welcomed!
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 03-14-2012, 8:44 AM
gesundheit's Avatar
gesundheit gesundheit is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,150
iTrader: 20 / 100%
Default

swift, can you tell me how much US Anodizing quoted you for the anodizing job?
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 03-14-2012, 1:07 PM
kcstott kcstott is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 10,450
iTrader: 18 / 100%
Default

Incorrect:
As soon as the part is capable of accepting other parts it is a firearm in the eyes of the DOJ. A stripped lower is a firearm just as a completed 80% lower is as well, serial number or not.

The DOJ is very clear on this topic.
The issue is the 80% lower is now complete and is 100% a firearm.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 03-14-2012, 1:09 PM
kcstott kcstott is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 10,450
iTrader: 18 / 100%
Default

Just the same as a AK flat that is folded becomes a firearm the second the bend is complete.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 03-14-2012, 1:25 PM
Intimid8tor's Avatar
Intimid8tor Intimid8tor is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Boise, the land of the free.
Posts: 6,339
iTrader: 76 / 100%
Default

Also, I believe US anodizing requires lowers received to be serialized as they are entered in their bound book.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 03-14-2012, 1:34 PM
Akers Akers is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Murrieta, Ca
Posts: 1,356
iTrader: 27 / 100%
Default

If your in San Diego, there are two shops down here that do great TypeIII work and you don't have to bother with shipping or an FFL.

Send me a PM if your still in the market. One is So Cal plating, but you will pay a tad more if you don't get a few guys to go in with you. They don't do piece work, but rather bulk. There is also another one in KM that does good work and will do piece work. I have six that have been done here in SD. I work in La Jolla so if you want to see one you can stop by and take a look at the work.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 03-14-2012, 1:51 PM
rareair's Avatar
rareair rareair is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: 32° 42′ 54″ N, 117° 9′ 45″ W
Posts: 1,729
iTrader: 50 / 100%
Default

Try sending it USPS, not UPS. The Postal Service has Next Day service, as well as 2-3 day Priority. Both options are under $20, a lot less than the comparable $80 you state that UPS is charging.
When you ship via USPS, you must fill out PS Form 1508
__________________
MagPul MPLA
POF-USA P415-18-11T-223
SIG 556 SWAT
SIG P226 Navy, W. German P226
P226 Scorpion, P226 X5 Competition
SIG P229 E2
SIG SP2022
TROY M7A1
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 03-14-2012, 2:18 PM
Ryan in SD Ryan in SD is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,969
iTrader: 59 / 100%
Default

face palm
__________________
Check out my HUGE list of for sale items
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 03-14-2012, 3:25 PM
tujungatoes's Avatar
tujungatoes tujungatoes is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: LA/SFV
Posts: 7,970
iTrader: 37 / 100%
Blog Entries: 2
Default

There is a LOT of fail in this thread. All the idiots telling the op to not declare or misrepresent his firearm are actually encouraging him to commit a federal offence.

The ATF specifically states "Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm"

It's not some obscure bit of law. It's on their f**king website for christ sake!
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Elky View Post
If your a man who wears white sunglasses, your probably a douche bag
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSACANNONEER View Post
I've been know to cross dress and go the other way at certain events.

Last edited by tujungatoes; 03-14-2012 at 3:34 PM..
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:39 PM.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Proudly hosted by GeoVario the Premier 2A host.
Calguns.net, the 'Calguns' name and all associated variants and logos are ® Trademark and © Copyright 2002-2018, Calguns.net an Incorporated Company All Rights Reserved.
Calguns.net and The Calguns Foundation have no affiliation and are in no way related to each other.
All opinions, statements and remarks made by Calguns.net on this web site and elsewhere are solely attributable to Calguns.net.