Calguns.net  

Home My iTrader Join the NRA Donate to CGSSA Sponsors CGN Google Search
CA Semiauto Ban(AW)ID Flowchart CA Handgun Ban ID Flowchart CA Shotgun Ban ID Flowchart
Go Back   Calguns.net > FIREARMS DISCUSSIONS > Centerfire Rifles - Manually Operated
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Centerfire Rifles - Manually Operated Lever action, bolt action or other non gas operated centerfire rifles.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-05-2019, 10:38 AM
jwfire25's Avatar
jwfire25 jwfire25 is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 295
iTrader: 8 / 100%
Default Opinions on a 6.5 creed bolt gun

Hello all,

I know theres a few other active threads talking about 6.5 creedmoor bolt guns, but I am looking for opinions on a first 6.5 to buy. I've been eyeballing getting a Bergara LRP. I have a HMR in 308 and really like it. I am looking more at a chassis rifle for adjustability. One thing I would like is being able to us AICS mags instead of brand proprietary mags. My plan is to use the rifle for bench shooting and maybe some PRS down the road. I would like to keep the rifle under 2000 dollars. I have a Vortex PST Gen 2 waiting to mounted on any rifle I get.

Thanks for looking.

John

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-05-2019, 11:55 AM
Tommy Gun Tommy Gun is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 276
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

RPR. Extremely accurate right out of the box. Can be had for 1200 and comes with folding stock. Folding stock is one of those things you think you never care about till you do.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-05-2019, 12:44 PM
sigstroker sigstroker is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: not in CA
Posts: 6,698
iTrader: 7 / 100%
Default

I love these threads where we get to spend other people's money.

If you like the LRP, no reason you shouldn't get it. You might even be able to get the Elite, it's about $1900 online. The only issue that I've heard of is some people have trouble with the sliding plate extractor.

Lucky for you there are lots of chassis rifles out there now, and most of them take AICS magazines.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-05-2019, 12:54 PM
jwfire25's Avatar
jwfire25 jwfire25 is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 295
iTrader: 8 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sigstroker View Post
The only issue that I've heard of is some people have trouble with the sliding plate extractor.
Funny you should say that. I broke my extractor on my HMR. But I've never had problems with it working as far as brass not extracting. I contacted Bergara and they sent me a new one for free. Another reason I'm leaning towards the LRP is because of Bergara's customer service. Where have you seen the LRP Elite online for 1900??


Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

Last edited by jwfire25; 05-05-2019 at 12:58 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-05-2019, 1:45 PM
sigstroker sigstroker is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: not in CA
Posts: 6,698
iTrader: 7 / 100%
Default

https://www.highbyoutdoors.com/Firea...rc=gun.deals55
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-05-2019, 1:54 PM
hermosabeach's Avatar
hermosabeach hermosabeach is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 12,612
iTrader: 7 / 100%
Default

I would suggest looking for a long range or precision shooting group near you.


Everything around 6.5 creedmore is not inexpensive. Cry once - and hopefully only buy once.


Lots of folks punch paper with different rigs. Most are open to having someone join them, discuss gear, loads, brass, primers, primer depth, pocket uniformity, bases, rings, optics on and on


I have helped friends buy pistols. I bring mine and they also rent. Teach them about trigger prep, trigger reset- help them feel different things.

Do you have giant hands where you want either a large palm swell or to be a long way from the trigger? Small hands where the opposite is true

A skinny face or a round face where the comb gives you perfect alignment with the optics

A big flat forend for rests or anything that holds a great bipod

Where are you located? We might be able to point you to a match or group in your area
__________________




“Science is like an inoculation against charlatans who would have you believe whatever it is they tell you.”
— Neil deGrasse Tyson
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-05-2019, 2:06 PM
sigstroker sigstroker is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: not in CA
Posts: 6,698
iTrader: 7 / 100%
Default

Video review of the LRP:

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-05-2019, 2:11 PM
jwfire25's Avatar
jwfire25 jwfire25 is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 295
iTrader: 8 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sigstroker View Post
Thanks! But unfortunately its mislabeled. That is just the regular LRP. Not the elite version.

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-05-2019, 2:15 PM
jwfire25's Avatar
jwfire25 jwfire25 is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 295
iTrader: 8 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hermosabeach View Post
I would suggest looking for a long range or precision shooting group near you.


Everything around 6.5 creedmore is not inexpensive. Cry once - and hopefully only buy once.


Lots of folks punch paper with different rigs. Most are open to having someone join them, discuss gear, loads, brass, primers, primer depth, pocket uniformity, bases, rings, optics on and on


I have helped friends buy pistols. I bring mine and they also rent. Teach them about trigger prep, trigger reset- help them feel different things.

Do you have giant hands where you want either a large palm swell or to be a long way from the trigger? Small hands where the opposite is true

A skinny face or a round face where the comb gives you perfect alignment with the optics

A big flat forend for rests or anything that holds a great bipod

Where are you located? We might be able to point you to a match or group in your area
That's why I want a chassis gun for adjustability. I live in Visalia just south of Fresno. So coalinga and Avenal gun clubs are nearby. I am a member at Avenal so I would be able to meet up a day they have a long range competition. If they still hold them there. I know coalinga does for sure

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-05-2019, 2:33 PM
dscoduc's Avatar
dscoduc dscoduc is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: North San Diego County
Posts: 836
iTrader: 40 / 100%
Default

So I've been thinking about the differences between a "chassis" bolt action and an AR
-10 with a Uintah upper setup.

The Uintah setup has a three lug bolt that connects to a proprietary barrel extension - in fact it looks very similar to the RPR bolt lockup. Seems like with all of the bolt actions chassis setups trying to be as flexible as an AR it just makes sense to look at the Uintah as a viable alternative.

BTW, I am not affiliated or connected to Uintah in any way...
__________________
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children what it was once like in the United States where men were free." - Ronald Reagan

"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within." - Josef Stalin
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-05-2019, 3:01 PM
ar15barrels's Avatar
ar15barrels ar15barrels is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Van Nuys
Posts: 45,737
iTrader: 97 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dscoduc View Post
So I've been thinking about the differences between a "chassis" bolt action and an AR
-10 with a Uintah upper setup.

The Uintah setup has a three lug bolt that connects to a proprietary barrel extension - in fact it looks very similar to the RPR bolt lockup. Seems like with all of the bolt actions chassis setups trying to be as flexible as an AR it just makes sense to look at the Uintah as a viable alternative.

BTW, I am not affiliated or connected to Uintah in any way...
The swinging hammer of an AR type is WAY slower than the striker in a proper bolt rifle.
Even amongst bolt rifles, there is quite a bit of difference in lock time between the old milsurps and a 700 type.
Then you have the dramatic lack of camming power in the autoloader design vs a proper turnbolt with it's ~2.5" long bolt handle.
__________________
Randall Rausch

AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
Glock, XD and M&P pistols, Benelli and Remington shotguns: barrel, sight, trigger and receiver work.
Most work performed while-you-wait, evening and weekend appointments available.
Founding member of the CAPRC
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 05-05-2019, 3:39 PM
dscoduc's Avatar
dscoduc dscoduc is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: North San Diego County
Posts: 836
iTrader: 40 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ar15barrels View Post
The swinging hammer of an AR type is WAY slower than the striker in a proper bolt rifle.

Even amongst bolt rifles, there is quite a bit of difference in lock time between the old milsurps and a 700 type.

Then you have the dramatic lack of camming power in the autoloader design vs a proper turnbolt with it's ~2.5" long bolt handle.
Not sure I follow... Does having a slower hammer affect accuracy? I believe the Uintah has a long bolt handle as well...
__________________
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children what it was once like in the United States where men were free." - Ronald Reagan

"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within." - Josef Stalin
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-05-2019, 3:46 PM
LWP LWP is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Lakewood Ca
Posts: 154
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Gun View Post
RPR. Extremely accurate right out of the box. Can be had for 1200 and comes with folding stock. Folding stock is one of those things you think you never care about till you do.
And among all of the different adjustable features that the RPR provides your able to use 2 different style mags,if needed. Not that you may ever need to, but how many other PRS rifles offer that option ?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-05-2019, 4:21 PM
NorCalFocus's Avatar
NorCalFocus NorCalFocus is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Surprise, AZ
Posts: 3,865
iTrader: 12 / 100%
Default

I honestly would look into getting a rifle built. You already have a precision style rifle right now, being you want to get into PRS, your going to end up changing stuff on a factory rifle anyways.

-Rem 700 action $400 or a Gunwerks Action is $800
-Timney or Trigger Tech trigger $120
-barrel will run you $350-$400
-KRG Bravo chassis $350
-Ross Schuler Muzzle brake, $30

Drive down to Van Nuys and have Randall (user ar15barrels) build it for you in one day. From your area, it’s only like a 4 hour drive. You can have everything put together by him and come in right at or under your budget.

Your trigger will be better than a factory one. You can have a heavier barrel than most factory rifles. You’ll have a chassis system that takes AICS Magpul mags. You’ll have a rig setup to run PRS, or any other long range combo you want.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 05-05-2019, 4:36 PM
baih777 baih777 is online now
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Torrance
Posts: 4,177
iTrader: 65 / 100%
Default

There is a third version Ruger RPR in 6.5 creedmoor..
It has a nitride bolt and a third generation handguard.
It's called a Enhanced version.
__________________
Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
I'm Back.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 05-05-2019, 4:52 PM
ar15barrels's Avatar
ar15barrels ar15barrels is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Van Nuys
Posts: 45,737
iTrader: 97 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dscoduc View Post
Not sure I follow... Does having a slower hammer affect accuracy? I believe the Uintah has a long bolt handle as well...
Yes.
The bolt handle fixes the camming power, but does nothing for lock time.

Also, that upper costs more than a complete RPR. and will not work with AICS mags because there are no AR lowers that accept AICS mags.
Fail on so many levels.
__________________
Randall Rausch

AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
Glock, XD and M&P pistols, Benelli and Remington shotguns: barrel, sight, trigger and receiver work.
Most work performed while-you-wait, evening and weekend appointments available.
Founding member of the CAPRC
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 05-05-2019, 6:29 PM
dscoduc's Avatar
dscoduc dscoduc is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: North San Diego County
Posts: 836
iTrader: 40 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ar15barrels View Post
Yes.
The bolt handle fixes the camming power, but does nothing for lock time.

Also, that upper costs more than a complete RPR. and will not work with AICS mags because there are no AR lowers that accept AICS mags.
Fail on so many levels.
Genuinely interested... Any chance you could elaborate on the lock time issue? And as for the price, yes it is a little steep though it works great if you have an existing AR lower that you have setup...
__________________
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children what it was once like in the United States where men were free." - Ronald Reagan

"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within." - Josef Stalin
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 05-05-2019, 8:55 PM
sigstroker sigstroker is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: not in CA
Posts: 6,698
iTrader: 7 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jwfire25 View Post
Thanks! But unfortunately its mislabeled. That is just the regular LRP. Not the elite version.

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
Those bastids!

Actually, the Elite has been discontinued. You still get the Premier action. They have apparently made some changes in their product line and confused their retailers. Even that link I gave you describes two different triggers on the same gun. Such is the risk of buying online.

Quote:
Originally Posted by NorCalFocus View Post
I honestly would look into getting a rifle built. You already have a precision style rifle right now, being you want to get into PRS, your going to end up changing stuff on a factory rifle anyways.

-Rem 700 action $400 or a Gunwerks Action is $800
-Timney or Trigger Tech trigger $120
-barrel will run you $350-$400
-KRG Bravo chassis $350
-Ross Schuler Muzzle brake, $30

Drive down to Van Nuys and have Randall (user ar15barrels) build it for you in one day. From your area, it’s only like a 4 hour drive. You can have everything put together by him and come in right at or under your budget.

Your trigger will be better than a factory one. You can have a heavier barrel than most factory rifles. You’ll have a chassis system that takes AICS Magpul mags. You’ll have a rig setup to run PRS, or any other long range combo you want.
That setup may not be any better than the Bergara LRP, especially with that budget chassis.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 05-05-2019, 9:04 PM
dscoduc's Avatar
dscoduc dscoduc is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: North San Diego County
Posts: 836
iTrader: 40 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dscoduc View Post
Genuinely interested... Any chance you could elaborate on the lock time issue? And as for the price, yes it is a little steep though it works great if you have an existing AR lower that you have setup...
So a little home work and I now understand that lock time is:

"... the time between when the trigger sear breaks, releasing the striker, until the bullet leaves the barrel and so the shooters/ gun's movements no longer have any effect on trajectory."

With this in mind if someone planned to use the Uintah upper on an AR lower for a bench rest rifle then I wouldn't think that lock time would make that much difference. For a hunting rifle then yes it would make a difference...

So aside from the lock time concern, cost is the real issue. Is a complete match grade bolt action upper worth the price they are asking... That's what I've been scratching my head about...
__________________
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children what it was once like in the United States where men were free." - Ronald Reagan

"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its morality and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within." - Josef Stalin
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 05-05-2019, 9:18 PM
sigstroker sigstroker is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: not in CA
Posts: 6,698
iTrader: 7 / 100%
Default

Actually, in this price range I like the Tikka Tac A1, about $1600. Except it doesn't use the AICS magazine. The truth is, you don't need 50 magazines like with an AR, a handful will be plenty.

Also, $2000 is the limit for the new PRS Production division, so there are a lot of good values at exactly $2000 (retail).

You also have to be careful about "just a couple hundred more" that starts you down the rabbit hole, and makes you start looking at stuff like this, only $2150:
https://www.kygunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=123290
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 05-05-2019, 9:22 PM
sigstroker sigstroker is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: not in CA
Posts: 6,698
iTrader: 7 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dscoduc View Post
So a little home work and I now understand that lock time is:

"... the time between when the trigger sear breaks, releasing the striker, until the bullet leaves the barrel and so the shooters/ gun's movements no longer have any effect on trajectory."

With this in mind if someone planned to use the Uintah upper on an AR lower for a bench rest rifle then I wouldn't think that lock time would make that much difference. For a hunting rifle then yes it would make a difference...

So aside from the lock time concern, cost is the real issue. Is a complete match grade bolt action upper worth the price they are asking... That's what I've been scratching my head about...
Also, an AR trigger won't be as good as a 1 pound TriggerTech or Timney.

Remember you need a .308 AR lower and stock.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 05-05-2019, 9:30 PM
ar15barrels's Avatar
ar15barrels ar15barrels is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Van Nuys
Posts: 45,737
iTrader: 97 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dscoduc View Post
Genuinely interested... Any chance you could elaborate on the lock time issue? And as for the price, yes it is a little steep though it works great if you have an existing AR lower that you have setup...
Slow lock time gives more time for the rifle to move between when you pull the trigger and when the bullet actually leaves the barrel.
Gun movement during this time changes where the bullet impacts compared to where it was intended to impact.

One would be money ahead by selling off the extra lower, NOT buying the lunitard upper and then just buying an RPR.
One would also end up with a better rifle overall.
__________________
Randall Rausch

AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
Glock, XD and M&P pistols, Benelli and Remington shotguns: barrel, sight, trigger and receiver work.
Most work performed while-you-wait, evening and weekend appointments available.
Founding member of the CAPRC
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 05-05-2019, 9:32 PM
ar15barrels's Avatar
ar15barrels ar15barrels is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Van Nuys
Posts: 45,737
iTrader: 97 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dscoduc View Post
So aside from the lock time concern, cost is the real issue. Is a complete match grade bolt action upper worth the price they are asking... That's what I've been scratching my head about...
You can buy a whole RIFLE, with better features for what they are asking for the upper that gives you a lesser rifle in the end.
It's really a no-brainer.
__________________
Randall Rausch

AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
Glock, XD and M&P pistols, Benelli and Remington shotguns: barrel, sight, trigger and receiver work.
Most work performed while-you-wait, evening and weekend appointments available.
Founding member of the CAPRC
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 05-08-2019, 3:26 AM
Exdc's Avatar
Exdc Exdc is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Northern CA
Posts: 837
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Just going to throw Howa 1500 out there as an option for the action. MDT has at least a couple compatible stocks, though sadly the TAC-21 is not avaliable in Howa (yet? *crossed fingers *). They do make for Remington 700, Tikka, and Savage. I've also heard good things about the Surgeon action for Rem 700, and with that action you get a lot of options for aftermarket parts. I have a 6.5CM Howa HCR in jail right now (gets out on Friday ), and while it's a bit below the $2000 pricetag, with a sub moa guarantee I'm not worried. I haven't seen anyone complaining about it, with the reception of the hard buttpad (and Luth-ar makes a replacement).


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Radical Centerist (That's me) Philosophy:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknown
"I want gay married couples to be able to protect their marijuana plants with guns." -Unknown (possibly Tim Moen)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Allhailflintlocks View Post
Gun owners need to be the new illegals - undocumented firearm possessors if you will.
Legislator "logic":
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezrat View Post
Before long, the Feds via A.D.A. will probably require manufacturers to include Braille markings to accommodate blind shooters.....
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 05-08-2019, 8:17 AM
ar15barrels's Avatar
ar15barrels ar15barrels is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Van Nuys
Posts: 45,737
iTrader: 97 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Exdc View Post
MDT has at least a couple compatible stocks, though sadly the TAC-21 is not avaliable in Howa (yet? *crossed fingers *).
Howa is a flat bottomed action with steps.
The Tac21 is not likely to be offered for any flat bottom action.
Remington, Tikka and Savage are round bottom actions.
The Tac21 has a round hole all the way through the chassis that the action slips into.
It's more difficult to make a non-round hole so they are unlikely to want to change their manufacturing methods to do that.
__________________
Randall Rausch

AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
Glock, XD and M&P pistols, Benelli and Remington shotguns: barrel, sight, trigger and receiver work.
Most work performed while-you-wait, evening and weekend appointments available.
Founding member of the CAPRC
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 05-08-2019, 8:24 AM
Exdc's Avatar
Exdc Exdc is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Northern CA
Posts: 837
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ar15barrels View Post
Howa is a flat bottomed action with steps.
The Tac21 is not likely to be offered for any flat bottom action.
Remington, Tikka and Savage are round bottom actions.
The Tac21 has a round hole all the way through the chassis that the action slips into.
It's more difficult to make a non-round hole so they are unlikely to want to change their manufacturing methods to do that.


Awww. Oh well. My partner has a Savage...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Radical Centerist (That's me) Philosophy:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknown
"I want gay married couples to be able to protect their marijuana plants with guns." -Unknown (possibly Tim Moen)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Allhailflintlocks View Post
Gun owners need to be the new illegals - undocumented firearm possessors if you will.
Legislator "logic":
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dezrat View Post
Before long, the Feds via A.D.A. will probably require manufacturers to include Braille markings to accommodate blind shooters.....
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 05-08-2019, 9:07 AM
tonyxcom's Avatar
tonyxcom tonyxcom is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: NorCal
Posts: 5,937
iTrader: 43 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jwfire25 View Post
Hello all,

I know theres a few other active threads talking about 6.5 creedmoor bolt guns, but I am looking for opinions on a first 6.5 to buy. I've been eyeballing getting a Bergara LRP. I have a HMR in 308 and really like it. I am looking more at a chassis rifle for adjustability. One thing I would like is being able to us AICS mags instead of brand proprietary mags. My plan is to use the rifle for bench shooting and maybe some PRS down the road. I would like to keep the rifle under 2000 dollars. I have a Vortex PST Gen 2 waiting to mounted on any rifle I get.

Thanks for looking.

John

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
I'd buy another HMR in 6.5 and then buy whatever R700 chassis you like best.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 05-08-2019, 9:57 AM
deckhandmike's Avatar
deckhandmike deckhandmike is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Morro Bay
Posts: 5,166
iTrader: 5 / 100%
Default

Why not rechamber the HMR to 6.5 and add a chassis?
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 05-08-2019, 9:59 AM
ar15barrels's Avatar
ar15barrels ar15barrels is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Van Nuys
Posts: 45,737
iTrader: 97 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by deckhandmike View Post
Why not rechamber the HMR to 6.5 and add a chassis?
Probably does not want his gun to be that accurate.
__________________
Randall Rausch

AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
Glock, XD and M&P pistols, Benelli and Remington shotguns: barrel, sight, trigger and receiver work.
Most work performed while-you-wait, evening and weekend appointments available.
Founding member of the CAPRC
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 05-08-2019, 10:17 AM
sigstroker sigstroker is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: not in CA
Posts: 6,698
iTrader: 7 / 100%
Default

Another cheaper alternative is the BMP. It's essentially the HMR in a chassis.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 05-08-2019, 10:41 AM
jwfire25's Avatar
jwfire25 jwfire25 is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 295
iTrader: 8 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by deckhandmike View Post
Why not rechamber the HMR to 6.5 and add a chassis?
I would also like to have a 308. Plus If i get another Bergara I want to have the premier action

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 05-08-2019, 10:41 AM
jwfire25's Avatar
jwfire25 jwfire25 is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 295
iTrader: 8 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sigstroker View Post
Another cheaper alternative is the BMP. It's essentially the HMR in a chassis.
I've been looking at that as well. But I think I would like the premier action. Not to sure on how much a performance edge there would be

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 05-08-2019, 11:11 AM
ar15barrels's Avatar
ar15barrels ar15barrels is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Van Nuys
Posts: 45,737
iTrader: 97 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jwfire25 View Post
I think I would like the premier action.
Not to sure on how much a performance edge there would be
Almost none.
The action dies not contribute much to accuracy/precision if that's what you are gauging the performance by.
The barrel quality and machining is the most important, followed by the stock and trigger and scope and mounts.
Action is behind all of those in priority with regards to effect on accuracy/precision.

A $200 action with a $350 barrel normally outshoots a $500 (or more) action with a $50 barrel.
__________________
Randall Rausch

AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
Glock, XD and M&P pistols, Benelli and Remington shotguns: barrel, sight, trigger and receiver work.
Most work performed while-you-wait, evening and weekend appointments available.
Founding member of the CAPRC

Last edited by ar15barrels; 05-08-2019 at 11:13 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 05-16-2019, 10:24 AM
sfarchitect's Avatar
sfarchitect sfarchitect is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 1,174
iTrader: 17 / 100%
Default

Go with the Bergara LRP Elite. Or within your budget you could put a much better PR barrel on an RPR.

FWIW, I volunteer as an RO at my local range. I consider myself a firearms guy and I personally had no idea of who these folks were.

I've seen a couple of folks shooting LRP's over the last 1.5yrs. On two separate occasions I saw a couple of otherwise unfocused and quasi- sloppy shooters (I'm just learning LR shooting so I'm one too) with some 'uncharacteristically, and frankly impressive groups. That, was how I learned who Bergara was.

Looked like nice workmanship too.

As someone once said; 'you're only as good as your tools'.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 05-16-2019, 10:28 AM
tonyxcom's Avatar
tonyxcom tonyxcom is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: NorCal
Posts: 5,937
iTrader: 43 / 100%
Default

As luck would have it, I found an unfired LEFT Hand ARC Nucleus action with a PVA 6.5 creed barrel from a private seller. I started DROS on it yesterday.

One is none two is one and all that. Still want a 308 when the Bergara B14 HMR in left hand come out.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 05-16-2019, 10:45 AM
jwfire25's Avatar
jwfire25 jwfire25 is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 295
iTrader: 8 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sfarchitect View Post
Go with the Bergara LRP Elite. Or within your budget you could put a much better PR barrel on an RPR.



FWIW, I volunteer as an RO at my local range. I consider myself a firearms guy and I personally had no idea of who these folks were.



I've seen a couple of folks shooting LRP's over the last 1.5yrs. On two separate occasions I saw a couple of otherwise unfocused and quasi- sloppy shooters (I'm just learning LR shooting so I'm one too) with some 'uncharacteristically, and frankly impressive groups. That, was how I learned who Bergara was.



Looked like nice workmanship too.



As someone once said; 'you're only as good as your tools'.

Awesome thank you for you experience. I guess I'm trying to get talked over the edge lol. Since I haven't heard to many personal experiences with this rifle

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 05-16-2019, 10:49 AM
etwinam's Avatar
etwinam etwinam is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: San Diego
Posts: 2,608
iTrader: 22 / 100%
Default

I'm a little late to the thread but the Bergara is a nice gun, I've got a RPR in 6.5 with a Viper PST scope and it's as accurate as I've ever shot. I can shoot a 12" plate at 1200 yards using my strelok app no problem, its one hell of a gun
__________________
God, Guns & Integrity. Prioritize your Priorities.

WTB
P10F**
P10S**

Last edited by etwinam; 05-16-2019 at 2:11 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 05-16-2019, 11:13 AM
sigstroker sigstroker is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: not in CA
Posts: 6,698
iTrader: 7 / 100%
Default

I would say a rifle that shoots almost 7 miles with that accuracy would be considered the best rifle in the world.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 05-16-2019, 11:14 AM
jwfire25's Avatar
jwfire25 jwfire25 is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 295
iTrader: 8 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sigstroker View Post
I would say a rifle that shoots almost 7 miles with that accuracy would be considered the best rifle in the world.
Hahaha

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 05-16-2019, 1:51 PM
Bicky Bicky is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Long Beach
Posts: 133
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tonyxcom View Post
As luck would have it, I found an unfired LEFT Hand ARC Nucleus action with a PVA 6.5 creed barrel from a private seller. I started DROS on it yesterday.

One is none two is one and all that. Still want a 308 when the Bergara B14 HMR in left hand come out.
That is lucky, since PVA takes over a year to screw a barrel on.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 4:34 PM.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Proudly hosted by GeoVario the Premier 2A host.
Calguns.net, the 'Calguns' name and all associated variants and logos are ® Trademark and © Copyright 2002-2018, Calguns.net an Incorporated Company All Rights Reserved.
Calguns.net and The Calguns Foundation have no affiliation and are in no way related to each other.
All opinions, statements and remarks made by Calguns.net on this web site and elsewhere are solely attributable to Calguns.net.