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Old 08-26-2017, 1:23 PM
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http://www.lacourt.org/division/jury/JR0082.aspx

From the Superior Court of California County of Los Angeles Webpage:

How do I request an investigation?

Any private citizen, government employee, or officer may submit a completed complaint form to request that the Civil Grand Jury conduct an investigation. A Citizen Complaint form is completed to request a Civil Grand Jury investigation. You may complete the form online; however it cannot be electronically submitted at this time.

Communications from the public can provide valuable information to the Civil Grand Jury. If the Civil Grand Jury determines that a matter drawn to its attention is within the legally permissible scope of its investigative powers and would warrant further inquiry, the Civil Grand Jury may request additional information. If a matter does not fall within the Civil Grand Jury's investigative authority, or the Civil Grand Jury determines not to further investigate a complaint, no action will be taken and there will be no further contact by the Civil Grand Jury.

The Grand Jury has no jurisdiction or authority to investigate federal agencies, state agencies, or the courts. The jurisdiction of the Civil Grand Jury is limited by statute and includes the following:

Inquiry into all public offenses committed or triable within the county and presenting them to the court by indictment

Consideration of evidence of misconduct against public officials to determine whether to present formal accusations requesting their removal from office
Inquiry into the condition and management of public prisons with in the county

Investigation and report on the operations, accounts, and records of the officers, departments, or functions of the county including those operations, accounts, and records of any special legislative district or other district in the county pursuant to state law for which the officers of the county are serving in their ex officio capacity as officers of the districts May investigate the books and records of any incorporated city or joint powers agency located in the county.
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Almost three years later, my LASD denial letter arrived. -__-
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Oct 2017- Curious where we're at in this timeline these days gang. Anyone know what the current likelihood of getting a CCW in LA is?
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Take your pick. Personally, I think LAPD is much closer to issuing than LASD.



ANY UPDATE ON THIS?
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ANY UPDATE ON THIS?


Honestly, I’m sad to say that until and unless SCOTUS (the U.S. Supreme Court) rules on things, we’re probably screwed. And they don’t seem to be in any particular hurry.


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The results of the CA state audit of Sac, LA and SD county sheriffs' CCW policy & practices was released today and is being discussed at:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...4#post21027724
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Old 12-28-2017, 4:52 PM
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http://www.lacourt.org/division/jury/JR0082.aspx

From the Superior Court of California County of Los Angeles Webpage:

How do I request an investigation?

Any private citizen, government employee, or officer may submit a completed complaint form to request that the Civil Grand Jury conduct an investigation. A Citizen Complaint form is completed to request a Civil Grand Jury investigation. You may complete the form online; however it cannot be electronically submitted at this time.

Communications from the public can provide valuable information to the Civil Grand Jury. If the Civil Grand Jury determines that a matter drawn to its attention is within the legally permissible scope of its investigative powers and would warrant further inquiry, the Civil Grand Jury may request additional information. If a matter does not fall within the Civil Grand Jury's investigative authority, or the Civil Grand Jury determines not to further investigate a complaint, no action will be taken and there will be no further contact by the Civil Grand Jury.

The Grand Jury has no jurisdiction or authority to investigate federal agencies, state agencies, or the courts. The jurisdiction of the Civil Grand Jury is limited by statute and includes the following:

Inquiry into all public offenses committed or triable within the county and presenting them to the court by indictment

Consideration of evidence of misconduct against public officials to determine whether to present formal accusations requesting their removal from office
Inquiry into the condition and management of public prisons with in the county

Investigation and report on the operations, accounts, and records of the officers, departments, or functions of the county including those operations, accounts, and records of any special legislative district or other district in the county pursuant to state law for which the officers of the county are serving in their ex officio capacity as officers of the districts May investigate the books and records of any incorporated city or joint powers agency located in the county.
The California State Auditor found PLENTY of corruption in the LASD's handing of CCW applicants. For one thing, they've been illegally adding 3 separate charges not allowed by state law. Second, in 24 out of 25 applications reviewed, they did not follow their own Good Cause standard. IIRC, the Auditor gave them 60 days to show they've stopped the illegal charges and until March to either get their practices in line with their stated GC policy or change their stated GC policy (on their website), to conform with their actual practices.

I think a Grand Jury would be very interested in what the Auditor uncovered. Just share it with them and let them take it from there!

For info on the state audit of Sac, LA and SD counties CCW practices, see post #125 and following (esp #137, 139 and 140) at:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...1319779&page=4

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okay guys just thinking out loud here, since you need a "good cause" to have ccw in los angeles...anyone happen to know if you wrote that you're a trans-person who's life is threatened by transphobia; would the LA sheriff approve that since charlie beck is a leftist himself?
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okay guys just thinking out loud here, since you need a "good cause" to have ccw in los angeles...anyone happen to know if you wrote that you're a trans-person who's life is threatened by transphobia; would the LA sheriff approve that since charlie beck is a leftist himself?
It's as good a reason as any in Los Angeles.

If it is true, and you are denied, and you have absolutely no criminal or civil issues in your background, then you may or may not have a case for a legal challenge. If they deny for good moral character, then you can claim that your sexual ambiguity is the basis for their discrimination.

Get in touch with the CRPA for advice on how to proceed.
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okay guys just thinking out loud here, since you need a "good cause" to have ccw in los angeles...anyone happen to know if you wrote that you're a trans-person who's life is threatened by transphobia; would the LA sheriff approve that since charlie beck is a leftist himself?
Let's step it up a notch and give the libtards no wiggle room. What if you are identify as gay black trans? You can also throw in there that sometimes you identify as a women as well so that makes you even more of a victim. Any other suggestions/creative ideas or victim classes to identify as?
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okay guys just thinking out loud here, since you need a "good cause" to have ccw in los angeles...anyone happen to know if you wrote that you're a trans-person who's life is threatened by transphobia; would the LA sheriff approve that since charlie beck is a leftist himself?
If you live in the City of Los Angeles, it might, under "circumstances" (a), (c) and/or (e). You'd apply with LAPD and then, if denied, with LACSD. Even if you do not live in the city of LA, be sure to share this loophole with the LA LGBTetc community. Even if you get denied, if others get issued CCWs, the more law-abiding people who get CCWs and EDC, the safer we ALL will be!

Los Angeles County has a population of 10M, of that, 4M live in the City of Los Angeles. If you are lucky enough to do so, you should apply first with LAPD before trying the LA Sheriffs Dept. Why? Because of a negotiated settlement that has court oversight, they have a more "liberal" Good Cause policy than the sheriffs department. For more info, see:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1423638
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Been off forum for a while, I don’t expect any “court relieve” until we replace one of the four libs or Justice Kennedy on the SCOTUS. Once that happens, the court may take a significant case and go as expansive as possible, especially if Justice Thomas writes the opinion.
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Vote on June 5th for your CCW privileges!

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I wish it was a right granted by the Constitution but that isn’t currently the case...
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It sounds like LA county has a shot at voting Bob Lindsey as sheriff, who promises to make that count a shall issue one. I'd suggest you guys spread the word and jump on that gravy train as hard as you can.
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For those who like and want a Sig line banner like mine, supporting Bob Lindsey, here's how to make one:

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Cool!

Thanks, Kes.

If anyone wants to do the same:
(1) Select User CP from the 2nd blue bar across the top of every CGN webpage.
(2) Under "Your Control Panel" (left column), select "Editing Signature" under "Settings & Options".
(3) Delete your current sig line pic if you have one.
(4) Select "Upload Signature Picture" and put in the empty field: https://i.imgur.com/Uu7qJxL.gif
(5) Select "Save Signature"

and that should be it! If not, just try different options that may make sense.

FWIW I embedded mine with a hyperlink to his campaign's website: http://sheriffboblindsey.com/ To do that, put [U*L="http://sheriffboblindsey.com/"] in front of [SIGPIC] (but use a "R" in place of the "*") and after [/SIGPIC] put [/URL]
For those who don't know about Bob:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1425238
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I should point out that while LA county has ~1/3rd of CA's population, since about 1/2 of CA's population can readily get CCWs and about 1/2 can't -- and LA falls into the "can't" half -- LA county has ~2/3rds of all Californians who can't get a CCW.

Winning LA county by electing Bob Lindsey for sheriff would be a TREMENDOUS WIN for our side!
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I should point out that while LA county has ~1/3rd of CA's population, since about 1/2 of CA's population can readily get CCWs and about 1/2 can't -- and LA falls into the "can't" half -- LA county has ~2/3rds of all Californians who can't get a CCW.

Winning LA county by electing Bob Lindsey for sheriff would be a TREMENDOUS WIN for our side!
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I am very optimistic about this.
I am seeing a TON of Bob's bumper stickers and yard signs in the SGV and SFV and no signs for any other candidates.
Of course, there may be some sampling bias... like when you buy a new car and suddenly it seems like everyone bought the same car... but it's still promising.
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