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Questions from a CCW newbie (non-California)
Hi...
Just a few questions from the more experienced CCW holders, with the premise that I have a Utah non-resident permit:
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1) I've done it multiple ways including all of the ones you've mentioned. None of them was good, although since OC is good in AZ, I did just do it out in the open in the Texaco station parking lot on the North side of I-10. 2) Hi-Cap mags? What Hi-Cap mags? Unless you had them prior to 1/1/2000 those are illegal in CA. 3) I can be of no help on that one. 4) Nobody is looking at you and nobody cares. Seriously, one of the biggest issues when you start carrying is that you think people are going to notice and you get freaked. Unless you are completely doing it wrong, no one is going to know so relax. AZ being an OC state I'm not sure it matters anyhow.
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2. My carry handguns have magazine capacities of less than 11 rounds. 3. AFAIK, not legal to carry (open or concealed) while on the Grand Canyon Railway. Firearm needs to be unloaded and in a lock container. 4. No guns signs are enforceable (have weight of law). Don't consume alcohol while carrying. Don't carry while on an Indian Reservation. |
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Hell, just pull off the first offramp, park, load and strap with everyone else.
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Good morning gentlemen, and than you for the replies.
So, I guess, that aside from AZ, it would be the same for Nevada? I park away far from people, unlock my pistol, load it and drop it in the holster? So, am I correct to think that while in CA (without a permit) - I'd have my pistol unloaded and locked in a container. This would be separated from loaded magazines, also locked in another container? Also, would it be a good idea to attach the empty holster to your belt, etc. even while in CA? This is to make it less of a hassle when one crosses the border. Oh yes, btw, I've juste read an excerpt from one of Ayoob's books on Concealed Carry. He mentions that in some states, it is illegal to carry in an establishment with a "liquor license." As such, it would be illegal to even carry inside Walmart...!?! *ugh* Cheers! _ |
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Don't carry in a "bar" and don't consume alcohol. Ayoob's advice just eliminates all doubt.
My carry rides in it's holster in the locked container, pull out the whole assembly, drop it on my belt and then I load it in the car. No sense in advertising. |
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Unloaded handgun in locked container. ^ Loaded magazines can be in the same container. They just can't be inserted in the firearm. No requirement for ammo or loaded magazines to be in a locked container. |
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2) Since it is not illegal to possess legally owned +10 round mags in CA, I just treat them like any other magazine while in CA or outside of CA. 3) I don't know about Grand Canyon Rail and don't want to give you bad advice so, keep researching the subject and don't just blindly listen to someone on the internet. Make sure you have valid information and can cite the law (either way). 4) Other advice, yea, tons of it. Unfortunately, too much to type here. I have an entire +8 hour presentation/class full of "other advice".
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I suggest you read PC 626.9, 626.91 and 30310 because, you're wrong about ammo having to be locked up or verboten within 1000 feet of a school. You would be correct if you stated ON SCHOOL GROUNDS but, that the only time ammo is required to be in a locked container and, it has NOTHING to do with having a CA LTC or not.
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It's incumbent upon you to know the concealed carry laws and laws regarding when you are justified in using lethal force in self-defense in all states you intend to carry in. Ayoob's rule of thumb is a general guideline. Laws vary by state. For example in Utah and Nevada, it's legal for you to drink alcohol while carrying concealed as long as you aren't over the legal limit. Whether you consider it a good idea to impair your mental facilities to any degree while carrying is another matter.
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