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Old 04-13-2010, 8:53 PM
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Hi all. I've been reading up on everything I could on your forum and elsewhere getting ready for my move to the PRK. I like the flowcharts and info on this site. My current state is very firearm friendly and I'm thinking it would be a good idea to at least pick up a semi-auto rifle before I move with all of the "evil" features and add a bullet key mag lock.

So just to clear up a few things, if a manuf. offers a "newer" model of a banned rifle with a new name does that make it legal again? It looks identical but has a new name. ha. (Bushmaster/ RRA etc etc) It seems like many of the OLL's I'm seeing on the forum are just playing the nomenclature game on the same rifles.

Secondly, if you were moving to CA, are there any out of state items worth acquiring? I'm thinking about picking up a robinson arms xcr or FN AR type weapon (or maybe something cheaper, I'd love to get a FAL). I'm basically looking for something cheap to shoot, accurate, and legal to bag a buck with (which excludes the standard .223 rifles where I live right now). I've got plenty of bolt action rifles that cost me a small fortune every time I go shooting and I would like to ditch a few for cheaper calibers. Right now I'm paying close to 30 bucks per 20 rounds.
Thanks in advance. I'll probably see some of you guys at the range.
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Old 04-13-2010, 8:55 PM
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get a bunch of ar pistol lowers, 1911 frames
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Hi all. I've been reading up on everything I could on your forum and elsewhere getting ready for my move to the PRK. I like the flowcharts and info on this site. My current state is very firearm friendly and I'm thinking it would be a good idea to at least pick up a semi-auto rifle before I move with all of the "evil" features and add a bullet key mag lock.

So just to clear up a few things, if a manuf. offers a "newer" model of a banned rifle with a new name does that make it legal again? It looks identical but has a new name. ha. (Bushmaster/ RRA etc etc) It seems like many of the OLL's I'm seeing on the forum are just playing the nomenclature game on the same rifles.

Secondly, if you were moving to CA, are there any out of state items worth acquiring? I'm thinking about picking up a robinson arms xcr or FN AR type weapon (or maybe something cheaper, I'd love to get a FAL). I'm basically looking for something cheap to shoot, accurate, and legal to bag a buck with (which excludes the standard .223 rifles where I live right now). I've got plenty of bolt action rifles that cost me a small fortune every time I go shooting and I would like to ditch a few for cheaper calibers. Right now I'm paying close to 30 bucks per 20 rounds.
Thanks in advance. I'll probably see some of you guys at the range.
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Old 04-13-2010, 9:41 PM
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Welcome to Calguns! Where in CA are you moving to?

As for what to bring.... handguns. We have a list of handguns approved for sale in CA. If it's not on the list, we can't just walk into a shop and buy it (nor can we order it online). But if you're moving in from out of state, this list does not apply to you.
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Old 04-13-2010, 9:44 PM
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Old 04-13-2010, 10:02 PM
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Don't move to California if you like to exercise your gun rights.
This is your answer. I have lived my whole life in San Diego. I was born here in the late 70's. everyone I know, all my close family, and ALL my friends live here. I am married and have a daughter.

I want to leave SO BAD I can taste it. I will be at a difficult spot with work in the next year or so. If things don't pan out I'm gone. This state is the worst place ever. EVERYTHING is illegal and that's not only guns. If you like things outdoors like off roading, mountain biking, shooting, hunting, fishing, kayaking etc its all getting regulated/shutdown/outlawed. save your self the trouble. Its also a VERY difficult place to live financially. houses are very high and pay is proportionately low.
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Old 04-13-2010, 10:04 PM
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You did what? Is it too late to take it back?

Just kidding. This noob has no advice for you. Just wanted to welcome you that's all.
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If you're looking for rifles with cheap ammo, I'd recommend anything chambered in 5.45x39 (if you're okay with corrosive ammo). You can get 2,160rds for about $300.
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My vote would be listed handguns and AR pistol lowers. Though I don't know how you ensure any stripped AR lowers you bring as in stay classified as pistol.
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Old 04-14-2010, 1:07 AM
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Get a taurus pt1911 in stainless and sell it to me at cost
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Old 05-09-2010, 1:37 PM
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I'm afraid your question re: centerfire rifles wasn't answered.
You can't bring in anything considered an "assualt rifle" to Ca and no magazines over 10 rounds in capacity what-so-ever.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
Hope I opened a can of worms for further clairification.
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Old 05-09-2010, 4:05 PM
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unlisted handguns and frames like there is no tomorrow.. you can buy the rifle stuff when your here but you can't buy off list guns that easily...
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What to get before you move to Kalifornistan?
Your head examined.
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Old 05-10-2010, 4:33 AM
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Please, avoid CA if you possibly can, I implore you. It is like living behind the Iron Curtain. This is my best possible advice.
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Old 05-10-2010, 5:11 AM
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My buddy is moving back to Orange County from Dallas.
I've got a massive (and growing) shopping list for him.
Includes:
Caspian 1911 Frames
Wilson 1911 Frames
CCR Raceframes (CCR's aluminum Glock frame)
$2,000+ worth of AR15 pistol lowers
HK9, HK45

This list continues to grow...
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get a bunch of ar pistol lowers, 1911 frames
Get as many AK pistol receivers as possible. You could finance your move.
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I would suggest a Rectal Exam to see if you can handle the abuse. Really, the State is to Liberal even for the Liberals
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Get as many AK pistol receivers as possible. You could finance your move.

How would he make money on this unless he sold them after he got here? I think there might be a problem with this.
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HK45, HKP30, Sig P2XX anything Elite, any off roster 1911......
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Old 05-10-2010, 12:29 PM
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The cheap micro pistols that are off list here always bring in a pretty penny. Kel-tec p3at, PF9, off list ruger LCP, lots of off list revolvers, 1911 frames as mentioned, and i'm sure there's more but I can't think of any off the top of my head.
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Pre-lock S&W revos.

Bring a couple of HK45's, you can make a handsome profit if you decide you dont want them later.
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How would he make money on this unless he sold them after he got here? I think there might be a problem with this.
You would get SO many people trampling over each other to get the goods. The items mentioned here are not importable through normal routes. In order for a handgun to be allowed to be sold here, it must pass the DOJ's drop test and go on the Approved List. Unless you're a LEO, it's almost impossible to get an AR of AK pistol lower.
If you're a bona fide resident of another state and you're moving to california, then you're exempted from the the handgun roster and AR/AK pistol laws. Those items can then be sold via Private Party Transactions (PPTs) at an FFL's store.

Those items are in very high demand in CA
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So just to clear up a few things, if a manuf. offers a "newer" model of a banned rifle with a new name does that make it legal again? It looks identical but has a new name. ha. (Bushmaster/ RRA etc etc) It seems like many of the OLL's I'm seeing on the forum are just playing the nomenclature game on the same rifles.
Rifles must be banned by make AND model. So if a manufacturer begins a new model and that model will then be off-list. For instance, currently Bushmaster makes XM-15, which is on the ban list. If Bushmaster began making a BM-15 that model is not on the ban list so therefore it would be legal.

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Secondly, if you were moving to CA, are there any out of state items worth acquiring?
You can make some good money bringing in off-list pistols, AR pistol lowers, and high capacity magazine rebuild kits (dissassembled magazines).
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You would get SO many people trampling over each other to get the goods. The items mentioned here are not importable through normal routes. In order for a handgun to be allowed to be sold here, it must pass the DOJ's drop test and go on the Approved List. Unless you're a LEO, it's almost impossible to get an AR of AK pistol lower.
If you're a bona fide resident of another state and you're moving to california, then you're exempted from the the handgun roster and AR/AK pistol laws. Those items can then be sold via Private Party Transactions (PPTs) at an FFL's store.

Those items are in very high demand in CA

A person moving here could literally pay for the move. AK pistol receivers are unobtainable, EXTREMELY high demand in CA. ....
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