Hi-Point 9MM Carbine - skip or grab?

[eswrite]

Intrigued by this carbine, seems suited for close quarter self-defense. Thoughts?

[Blade Gunner]

Originally Posted by eswrite

Intrigued by this carbine, seems suited for close quarter self-defense. Thoughts?

I’d pass. Beretta CX4 is a better option close to that price point.


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[Pint]

Originally Posted by eswrite

Intrigued by this carbine, seems suited for close quarter self-defense. Thoughts?

Or the new Ruger PC9 carbine. Its CA complaint out of the box. No need of that stupid grip wrap

[deckhandmike]

It’s a great gun that works well but I’ve had some magazine issues where I wouldn’t trust it for HD. It’s a 99% gun, but not like my glock or AK. I love that damn gun. It’s a sweet range toy.

[ZX9ALLDAY]

It runs great, had it in a 9 and traded up for a 40. Haters will say hipointnis trash, but thier customer service is A1

[Ora Serrata]

If you can get one cheap enough go for it. It's a lot of fun. Haven't had any issues with mine at all. Although to be fair it's not my go-to HD gun. But a great range plinker for sure!

[cpttimerestraint]

Go for it. It is my favorite rifle in my safe. I never have had a failure to feed or eject. I put a little 4x32 scope on it and I am good to 100 yards.

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[Nick Adams]

Originally Posted by Pint

Or the new Ruger PC9 carbine. Its CA complaint out of the box. No need of that stupid grip wrap

This. I'd pick something 'featureless" like this or a Marlin Camp Nine if you could find one. I just don't want anymore grip wraps, "featureless" after market stocks et al.

[Stanze]

I have one. Fun range toy. I currently only have the one mag it came with though.

I mainly got it because I thought it looked cool and make it a RAW.



My PSA AR-9 wins due to ability to accept any of the many 9mm Glock mags I accumulated over the years.

I have about double the investment in the AR-9 though over the Hi Point so there's that.

[NPFreedom]

Have one. Good range gun. I wouldn’t use it for self defense though. Although the simple action is pretty reliable. They run pretty cheap, $340 at Turners. You can find them on the marketplace for <$300. IMO its a good buy.

[SISKIN]

Ruger pc9 if you can find one

[NATEWA]

Pass. I had one for a while. I’d spend the extra cash and get the new Ruger that accepts Glock mags. You do have a Glock, right?

[NATEWA]

Originally Posted by Stanze

I have one. Fun range toy. I currently only have the one mag it came with though.

I mainly got it because I thought it looked cool and make it a RAW.



My PSA AR-9 wins due to ability to accept any of the many 9mm Glock mags I accumulated over the years.

I have about double the investment in the AR-9 though over the Hi Point so there's that.

I’m not sure who is making those for PSA but I’ve heard they are reliable. How’s it been for you?

[eswrite]

Originally Posted by Stanze

I have one. Fun range toy. I currently only have the one mag it came with though.

I mainly got it because I thought it looked cool and make it a RAW.



My PSA AR-9 wins due to ability to accept any of the many 9mm Glock mags I accumulated over the years.

I have about double the investment in the AR-9 though over the Hi Point so there's that.

I like the look of the Thordsen with it. Did it come with it, or did you swap it in?

[onelonehorseman]

OP, I don't have a Hi-point, but for HD, I don't really see the appeal of a carbine unless you have a really large home.

IMO, a pistol, in the hands of a well practiced user, is a better choice for inside your typical home. It will be easier to carry and move, in low light, without bumping it into or snagging on things.

A pistol also avoids the need for left-right shoulder transitions when working around walls and doorways in a structure. . . . . a skill that is often lacking with casual gun owners.

[Stanze]

Originally Posted by NATEWA

I’m not sure who is making those for PSA but I’ve heard they are reliable. How’s it been for you?

It started off as a virgin lower receiver with last round bolt hold open feature, standard AR parts kit and PSA complete upper. I installed some quarters in the buffer tube to minimize the buffer to bolt-stop/release distance to prevent breakage of bolt release lever. I also installed a heavier 9mm buffer and anti-walk pins to avoid holes egging out.

After some trail and error - It was locking back after every shot, I replaced AR10 buffer with AR15 (5.56mm) buffer, it runs reliable and is very accurate to 25 yards (farthest distance I've shot with it so far).

Since I assembled it from parts, I did a lot of research on what components to buy and use from other AR-9 owners.

Originally Posted by eswrite

I like the look of the Thordsen with it. Did it come with it, or did you swap it in?

I installed it along with muzzle brake to assemble as a featureless rifle.

I didn't install a ambi-safety because I felt it would get in the way of my trigger finger. It's no problem to release safety with my thumb and I just reach under and flick it to safe with my middle finger.

[eswrite]

Thanks, everyone. Looks like RifleGear has a couple of CMMG 9mm uppers. Wondering how much is required on a stock -15 lower to make it -9 compatible... Mag adapter only?

[Stanze]

Originally Posted by eswrite

Thanks, everyone. Looks like RifleGear has a couple of CMMG 9mm uppers. Wondering how much is required on a stock -15 lower to make it -9 compatible... Mag adapter only?

I don't have any experience with mag well adapters. The cost can go as high as a lower receiver.

https://www.brownells.com/rifle-part...-prod1548.aspx

Why not purchase a 9mm Glock mag or Colt SMG (mag type, not full auto) lower OP?

Glock mag: http://schuylerarmsco.com/rifles/low...sh-1-50-01-062

Colt SMG: http://schuylerarmsco.com/rifles/low...-catch-90ca2f3

[SafetyOptional]

mag adapters are finnicky, get a proper lower for it and save yourself the headache.

If you need help building one let me know.

Here's mine:

[theLBC]

oh great, now i "need" a 9mm carbine.

stop it you guys!

[Blade Gunner]

Originally Posted by theLBC

oh great, now i "need" a 9mm carbine.

stop it you guys!

Sig MPX. Think it’s the only PCC with a locking BCG.


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[XCC_RIDER]

Definitely a grab for me but I've enjoyed my HP 40 call for a couple of years now. Never had a ftf, fte, mag issue or anything. Just plain reliable.

For those with a mag issue, you should visit the HP forum and search for mag problem or fix as it's a simple adjustment to the lips if needed.

[eswrite]

Originally Posted by sam.park

mag adapters are finnicky, get a proper lower for it and save yourself the headache.

If you need help building one let me know.

Here's mine:

Thanks. That looks like a cool setup.

[plumbum]

I’ve had a Hi-Point 995 for years (decades?), can’t say enough good things about it, and customer service is awesome. The Ruger PC is probably a better gun if you are willing to pay a bit more and be patient, but if you get a deal, do it!

I’m dying for a 10mm or .45 hunter carbine, because... REASONS!

[Someday]

Originally Posted by Pint

Or the new Ruger PC9 carbine. Its CA complaint out of the box. No need of that stupid grip wrap

Exactly. I haven't shot the 9mm HiPoint, but I like the 40 - I just loathe the wrap and mag release. While there is no pistol grip, a regular mag release and no CA BS makes the Ruger a clear winner for me (although it's speculation since I'm still waiting for mine to come in!) Besides, if there is any logic to the Ruger design, it seems like there will be interchangeable calibers at some point in the future.

[deckhandmike]

I wouldn’t trust an AR franken build 9mm either for HD without extensive testing. If you really want a 9mm carbine for HD I’d suggest a MPX, Berreta, or Ruger. While some have flawless AR 9mm they are kinda known for needing quite a bit of tweaking before running reliable.

[Blade Gunner]

Originally Posted by deckhandmike

I wouldn’t trust an AR franken build 9mm either for HD without extensive testing. If you really want a 9mm carbine for HD I’d suggest a MPX, Berreta, or Ruger. While some have flawless AR 9mm they are kinda known for needing quite a bit of tweaking before running reliable.

Q. 9mm PCC?
A. Sig MPX
CZ Scorpion
Beretta CX4
In that order.


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[Rigma]

Originally Posted by eswrite

Intrigued by this carbine, seems suited for close quarter self-defense. Thoughts?

Depends on price. I have wanted a 9mm carbine for some time. Those I wanted most were expensive or hard to come by. Those available were expensive and more of a project than an "out of the box" gun. I also wanted something featureless when that became a necessary decision with new laws.

I am waiting for my Ruger PC 9mm and will see if that will suffice. It nails the category of featureless with options to attach tactical "stuff." The rumor of other caliber barrels and bolts becoming available would also be of interest if true.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...411816&page=37

The initial cost of about $600 and a red dot borrowed from another rifle to see if this satisfies my 9mm carbine craving is very reasonable.

If it is not, then I will start down the road of spending nearly double that amount to build a featureless 9mm carbine on a AR-15 lower.

[isntzen]

I second the suggestion for CZ Scorpion, unless OP's need is immediate or price is out of range. "Highpoint carbine for HD" and "Murphy's law" could too easily coexist in the same sentence.

[thetruecheese]

Kicking myself that i still don't have one.

Almost bought but the sale fell thru.