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Old 05-19-2017, 8:08 AM
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Default Are 10 round .45 ACP 1911 magazines considered High Capacity?

I am looking to purchase these:

http://www.brownells.com/magazines/h...%7cMake_3=1911

There is a note about "high capacity" restrictions. I know 10 rounds are 10 rounds but, am I missing something? I can own these for my 1911, correct?

Thanks in advance for the clarification.
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Old 05-19-2017, 8:10 AM
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Yes you can. I have that one and the Wilson Combat 1o rounders.
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Grabbed one on my last pickup at Riflegear in Fountain valley about three weeks back.
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10 round is the limit here. But I believe NY has a limit of 7 rounds. That is probably why that note is there.
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Well on a standard 1911 it's either 7 or 8 rounds (depending on how the mags came with the weapon from manufacture). So anything out of those numbers will either be high capacity or neutered capacity.

30 round ar15 magazines are neutered capacity since they are actually designed for 30 rounds =)
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Well on a standard 1911 it's either 7 or 8 rounds (depending on how the mags came with the weapon from manufacture). So anything out of those numbers will either be high capacity or neutered capacity.

30 round ar15 magazines are neutered capacity since they are actually designed for 30 rounds =)
Don't confuse the guy! Perfectly legal OP! You can use any mag as long as you can not insert more than 10 rounds in to the mag, and it must be permenant to not accept anything more. Doesn't matter how many rounds the original gun was intended for.
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Yes. Legal.

I have one and it runs perfect.

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Thanks gang!
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I have a bunch of wilson combat 47t and chip mccormick power mags in 10 round capacity. Both function great. Pricey though
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Well on a standard 1911 it's either 7 or 8 rounds (depending on how the mags came with the weapon from manufacture). So anything out of those numbers will either be high capacity or neutered capacity.

30 round ar15 magazines are neutered capacity since they are actually designed for 30 rounds =)
This.

The concern in CA law is 'large-capacity magazines', those that hold 11 or more.
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10 round Wilson Combat mags are pretty much all I buy. Great mags, and might as well max out the full 10 rounds. I like the extended look, so double pluses for me.
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You're shooting a 45ACP an 8 round mag will be more than enough to take on a car load of gangbangers. One 45 ACP is equivalent to 2.5 rounds of 9mm.

Just want to make it clear that I'm kidding. No need for you 9mm fanbois to get your panties all uptight.

The only way that 45ACP 10 round mag can become illegal in California is if you load 10mm rounds in it and functions for your future 10mm 1911 pistol.
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Ten rds is ten rds. You will be legal.
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It's funny that I can chamber a round and put in a 10 round magazine for the total of 11 rounds, but if I had a (hypothetical) 11 round magazine in the gun and no round chambered I'd be a child murderer who needs to go to jail, even though I'd have the same number of rounds while being *less* ready to kill puppies (condition 0/1 vs. condition 3).

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CA logic...
Fixed it for ya.

30 magazine clips
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"Assault rifles"
"High capacity magazines"
"Microstamping"
Magazine locking devices that contradict safe unloading procedures
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Oh and... everything in CA causes cancer.
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I like and use the Tripp Research Cobra 10rnd mags. They work soo well, i dont see why not using 10rnds over 7 or 8? Unless yu dont like look?
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In New Jersey, I think the mag limit is 15 rounds. In NY, it's 7 rounds. In CA it's 10 rounds.

The 7 round one is obvious... revolvers and 1911s only please.

10 and 15 rounds is so arbitrary. I believe the 10 rounds limit was probably made by politicians who thought "Oh, Glocks use 16 round magazines, if we say 10 round limit, then no Glocks could possibly be sold in CA, right?!"

I mean, realistically, wtf difference does it make 10 vs 20 rounds in a magazine?
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I have a 1911 clone .45 ACP and have 3 7-round mags that run great in the pistol. I do not use it for CC but only for HD. If one cannot quell a home invasion at less than 7 yards with 7 rounds, there is a problem. The other two mags are on my body in case I screw up, and that means retreat to a safer part of the house to quickly reload the second mag.

The idea with a home invasion is that the invaders probably have no idea of the home layout and the home-owner knows every aspect.

I do not understand the fixation with a 1911 .45 10 round extended mags. It protrudes from the butt very much and forget about conceal ability with that mag.

The best idea is a another pistol as that is the fastest "reload" in the heat of the fight.

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That's not the point. It's just maximizing what you can have. I doubt anyone with a 10 Round 1911 mag will conceal carry with it. 10 round 45acp 1911 mags are perfect for range use, I kinda like the extended look, but I'm more partial.
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Imagine in a free state that there are guys with Glock 17s and several 33 round magazines ready, just in case. And here we are with our 7 round 1911 mags? LOL!
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Here in this state who can truly say. Thru propaganda the enemy has already trained most everyone in this state to use the phrase " high capacity " when 20 years ago most people would have used the phrase " standard capacity " to describe the same magazine. Common sense says its legal but I'm sure there are plenty out there that would try to say they're not. Quote from TV Fargo...."what is a chicken ?" An egg would say a chicken is just a means to produce more eggs. Its all perspective.

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Definitely legal, although not necessary given the knock down power of 230 grain ball, and it's uncanny ability to spin people around, lift them into the air, and cause grotesque injuries, even with mere wing shots.
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Definitely legal, although not necessary given the knock down power of 230 grain ball, and it's uncanny ability to spin people around, lift them into the air, and cause grotesque injuries, even with mere wing shots.
I have also read, but cannot confirm, that critical hits with .45 ACP automatically return a cartridge to your magazine, therefore costing zero ammo.
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I have also read, but cannot confirm, that critical hits with .45 ACP automatically return a cartridge to your magazine, therefore costing zero ammo.
Actually, that is FUD. However, it does allow for the shooter to duck behind cover for a few seconds when injured and restore health to 100% and resume the fight.
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critical hits with .45 ACP
P.S. All hits with 45 ACP are critical, so your post is somewhat redundant.
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Hi capacity is a made up liberal term to make an inanimate object sound scary. A magazine just has a capacity, be it 8 or 10, or 30. If you have a 17 round magazine and limit it to 10 it becomes a neutered capacity. Much like the liberal mind, neutered.
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Actually, that is FUD. However, it does allow for the shooter to duck behind cover for a few seconds when injured and restore health to 100% and resume the fight.
Always good to get the right information out there.
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