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Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do. |
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Is the a site that shows all of the cases before the 9th? I cant seem to find anything online and I'm interested to see how this deliberation time stacks up to the other cases in court limbo.
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Not really a list available. US Circuit Courts of Appeal have no deadlines; they work on what they want, when they want. The 9th also seems sometimes to Make Stuff Up in their opinions.
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Yeess! New sig for fake librarian!
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Does it work that way or do they (9th) just make up stuff?
We are about 6 months after the oral arguments were made and watching the arguments again today our side definitely presented a stronger case. I hope we get a conclusion soon. |
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Of course, a win on this one doesn't mean much they just go En Banc, and bingo win erased. |
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I hope they overturn the roster....I'll be happy but my wife may not be since I'll be spending some money....Now just get rid of the 10 day wait period for previous CA gun purchasers
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Unfortunately, that does seem to be the new normal for 2A cases at CA9.
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I have no idea where they got their "understanding", I haven't heard anything.
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Also, the phrase "it is our understanding that..." doesn't exactly exude confidence in what they're about to say after that. It's the calguns equivalent of "IMO, and IANAL, but IIRC I heard someone at an LGS say ... FWIW, YMMV"
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Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do. Last edited by CandG; 09-28-2017 at 8:39 AM.. |
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I may be spreading FUD ( I hope not) I had heard that New York and Massachusetts threw out the micro stamping after they figured out that it wouldn't help them solve crimes in which they didn't already have other evidence that already lead them to the suspect.
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Other states have tried, or toyed with the idea, but none have actually ever implemented such a requirement except for CA.
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Washington DC has had a microstamping requirement on the books (District of Columbia Code Section 7-2504.08 (b)) for several years but they've punted the implementation date a few times. Currently it takes effect 1 Jan 2018. |
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Until the California Supreme Court decides the NSSF v. Becerra microstamping challenge. The NSSF case will be binding on the Ninth, since the issue arises almost entirely under state law. The NSSF case is still in the briefing stage, and will not likely be argued before next year.
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I'm just wondering why we haven't seen an update in almost 2 years?
This link as reference: https://www.calgunsfoundation.org/pena |
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ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page "The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane."Ann Althouse: “Begin with the hypothesis that what they did is what they wanted to do. If they postured that they wanted to do something else, regard that as a con. Work from there. The world will make much more sense.” Not a lawyer, just Some Guy On The Interwebs. |
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My guess is we'll have a decision sometime between 2018 Jan 01 and
But my main concern is that we win "carry" before we win killing the roster. I don't want us all ordering S&W J-frames to CCW at the same time because that's the only thing on the roster!
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I just realized that this video is unavailable on youtube :/
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Still waiting on this; all I want is a S&W 437, which as you can see, is one of the least offensive weapons out there. All it is is a black 637 but nope, apparently its too unsafe.
https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...P+1.8+COMBAT+5 |
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I suspect that there have been no updates since nothing has happened. Although state courts are required to issue their decisions within 90 days of oral argument, no such rule applies in the federal court system. The Ninth is the busiest circuit in the nation, and thus decisions are rarely issued with any particular promptness. Plus, as I said above, it might be sitting on the case until the California Supreme Court decides the NSSF appeal, as a dismissal of that case as the State requests would be dispositive.
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The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly. John 10:10 iTrader: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1888351 |
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Why the guess of this time period? I'm honestly skeptical at this point that the roster will ever go away in my lifetime, and my 17 year old will almost certainly have got the hell out of Dodge before it's gone. He's itchin' to escape this craphole and explore other states. .. |
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Orals were back in March. My guess is 9 months to a year and a half after that is when the 3-judge panel will most likely release its decision.
I know you didn't say I said we'd win, but I just want to make sure I did not give anyone that impression.
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Im surprised that there has been no activity on this in 7 months time.
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9-12mo is my guess as well
Right now I'm holding off on all off roster purchase no matter how badly I want them. If we don't get anything by March 2018 I'll buy a few things. |
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I really can't believe how long that these cases take to flush out. If it were taxes that you owed the Fed you would be in some pretty deep doo-doo for being late to pay, but since it's your freedoms, ya know...
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There is no incentive for the government to rush to do anything. If the law was put on hold until it was shown to be Constitutional by ALL the courts, then you would see a much different response.
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