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Old 08-10-2018, 4:13 AM
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what off roster handguns are most sought after? What are they selling for?

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Old 08-10-2018, 4:26 AM
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The most valuable off roster guns are the ones you want. Only you know what you want.

If you wanna make money selling guns; aka buy guns for the express purpose of making a profit, all you gotta do is get a FFL.

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Old 08-10-2018, 4:32 AM
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Off roster CZs sell at a good premium.

HK VP9, Off roster polys like the G43.
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Old 08-10-2018, 5:26 AM
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If you can get a good price on any new pistol models released in the last five years, you should be able to sell them quick at a 33% markup.

Aim for a sale price in the 600 to 800 dollar range and you will sell quick. More expensive guns will need to find the right buyer.

Limit yourself to four pistols or fewer, to make it clear this is a collection and not a business.

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Sig P365 going for 3 times the price.
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Old 08-10-2018, 6:13 AM
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I currently live in Oklahoma for the past 9 months or so to take care of my Ill senior uncle. I come home to San Diego every few weeks to see my kids but in late September I will be moving back to SD permanently. so I was wondering what off roster handguns are most sought after? What are they selling for? and I'm not talking about $2500 custom 1911's
Careful, based on your above statements you are still considered a California Resident by California's definition and as such bring off roster (importing)firearms could be a serious violation of California law.



California considers people who leave the state with the intent of returning in the future to still be California Residents.

As such all firearms you bring into the state MUST go through an FFL and be on Roster.

Posting on the internet your intent to profit by importing firearms into the state in violation of state law is also not a good idea.

Please consult with a good firearms attorney familiar with California Laws before proceeding.

Seriously if it were this easy we would all be doing it.
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Old 08-10-2018, 6:22 AM
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Cool guns made after 2017 is a good start.

Good quality Pocket guns (380/9mm, an even 22/22mag snub revolvers) that likely never sold here (CA) to public

Note: don't be one of those flippers $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Above poster is absolutely correct, what you are proposing if done as you described is a very precarious situation. Also, I seriously doubt anybody in Oklahoma is going to sell you a firearm with a California driver's license.

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Been gone from there a while. So these off roster Firearms. Can they be sent to a FFL in CA from out of State? Either for the FFL holders personal use. Or to be resold? Or if they are off roster. There is simply no way to get them to CA at all?

Edit:Sorry I see someone mentioned they have to be on roster even for an FFL. But can an FFL buy off roster for himself to use? Not for resale?

I do have a reason for asking?

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Been gone from there a while. So these off roster Firearms. Can they be sent to a FFL in CA from out of State? Either for the FFL holders personal use. Or to be resold? Or if they are off roster. There is simply no way to get them to CA at all?

Edit:Sorry I see someone mentioned they have to be on roster even for an FFL. But can an FFL buy off roster for himself to use? Not for resale?

I do have a reason for asking?
NO. Only Roster Exempt people (like some LEO's) can buy off roster firearms from out of state and even those must go through a FFL.

Off Roster firearms can be bought used by a California resident from another California Resident but there are very few ways they can come in from out of state.
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anther way is intrafamilial transfer
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it isn't hard to get an out of state drivers license & retain your california license.I have done it a #of times for work.Show other forms of ID to the DMV & don't turn in your old DL.
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Too fast for me Skyhawk.

There are several threads here about how to get around the roster.
Dual residency is not one of them.

1) LE purchase

2) Gift from out of state parent/grandparent/child. (Not uncles, aunts, nieces, etc. or step-anything.)
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it isn't hard to get an out of state drivers license & retain your california license.I have done it a #of times for work.Show other forms of ID to the DMV & don't turn in your old DL.
That doesn't matter because a drivers license does not mean you are a resident of that state. And residency is not declared or arbitrarily chosen, it is established. The question is not can you buy a gun in another state, the question is can you be prosecuted for violating CA PC27585 - a felony if the firearm is a handgun - when you come back to CA with them.

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(a) Commencing January 1, 2015, a resident of this state shall not import into this state, bring into this state, or transport into this state, any firearm that he or she purchased or otherwise obtained on or after January 1, 2015, from outside of this state unless he or she first has that firearm delivered to a dealer in this state for delivery to that resident pursuant to the procedures set forth in Section 27540 and Article 1 (commencing with Section 26700) and Article 2 (commencing with Section 26800) of Chapter 2.

Another question is can you be prosecuted by the Feds for perjury/making false statements to a FFL when you sign the 4473, in violation of 18 USC 922(a)(6).

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(a) It shall be unlawful
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(6) for any person in connection with the acquisition or attempted acquisition of any firearm or ammunition from a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector, knowingly to make any false or fictitious oral or written statement or to furnish or exhibit any false, fictitious, or misrepresented identification, intended or likely to deceive such importer, manufacturer, dealer, or collector with respect to any fact material to the lawfulness of the sale or other disposition of such firearm or ammunition under the provisions of this chapter
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it isn't hard to get an out of state drivers license & retain your california license.I have done it a #of times for work.Show other forms of ID to the DMV & don't turn in your old DL.
Sweet, I understand they give people who do defraud the government free room and board. Wait and see what happens if you ever are caught with multiple State licenses on your person. lol
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Gotta love the futile “please delete” request followed by the ever so crafty quotes of the original post.
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