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Old 06-10-2018, 7:35 AM
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I like to browse thru the numerous online videos via youtube or others on the different interactions law enforcement has with the public. One thing I see constantly is LE asking for ID in situations when they know the public isnt required to show it. Asking once, uh, so be it, but when its repeated over and over, whats the deal?

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Old 06-10-2018, 7:51 AM
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Pretty vague question with many answers.

One reason I do it and like to see my partners do it is it’s nice to know who I’m talking to or vice versa. If I have had a poor interaction with an individual before, it’s noted and my partners are able to see that when and if they get contacted again. Much like premise history at a house.
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Pretty vague question with many answers.

One reason I do it and like to see my partners do it is itís nice to know who Iím talking to or vice versa. If I have had a poor interaction with an individual before, itís noted and my partners are able to see that when and if they get contacted again. Much like premise history at a house.
+1 for the vagueness of the question. There are many many reasons.
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When I'm given an ID, 99.9999999999999999999% of the time, I pretty much stop asking for it...

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I only asked for the ID when I need to identify the person.
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When I'm given an ID, 99.9999999999999999999% of the time, I pretty much stop asking for it...
Lol!
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Because with the screwy ways people spell names these days, it makes putting it in your log a lot easier. Many departments require (some places its law) you to log every stop and who you talked to, why, and their identifying information. You can thank all the social justice warriors blaming LE for “profiling” people.
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+1 for the vagueness of the question. There are many many reasons.
Thats why I asked. Soo many officers, soo many different ways of vagueness.
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I like to browse thru the numerous online videos via youtube or others on the different interactions law enforcement has with the public. One thing I see constantly is LE asking for ID in situations when they know the public isnt required to show it. Asking once, uh, so be it, but when its repeated over and over, whats the deal?
How do you know that it's a situation where the public isn't required to show it? Youtube videos often don't show everything and different state laws vary on the subject. So many various situations result in so many various answers.
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How do you know that it's a situation where the public isn't required to show it? Youtube videos often don't show everything and different state laws vary on the subject. So many various situations result in so many various answers.
Good point. Just because someone says something with confidence does not make them right. More often than not, these YouTube/sidewalk lawyers are wrong.

On the flip side, it does make it a lot easier to write your information down as opposed to asking you every question. Why sit there and ask your name, date of birth, address and so one when its all written in the same card?
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I like to browse thru the numerous online videos via youtube or others on the different interactions law enforcement has with the public. One thing I see constantly is LE asking for ID in situations when they know the public isnt required to show it. Asking once, uh, so be it, but when its repeated over and over, whats the deal?
I'm not a cop.

From what I've seen, cops almost always want to control all interaction with the public. And part of that control is to identify who they are contacting. They also seem to want to exert a sense of control over whomever they are interacting with. And getting the ID from someone is part of that. Its all in line with the "They Know Who you are;" "They Know Where You Live" dominance attempt.

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I'm not a cop.

From what I've seen, cops almost always want to control all interaction with the public. And part of that control is to identify who they are contacting. They also seem to want to exert a sense of control over whomever they are interacting with. And getting the ID from someone is part of that. Its all in line with the "They Know Who you are;" "They Know Where You Live" dominance attempt.

IMNSHO.
Then why are you posting you ridiculous comments in the LEO Forum?
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He must have stayed at a Holiday Inn last night.

I can confidently say I never initiate asking for ID until I have reasonable suspicion to detain and identify someone. There are a zillion laws on the books, and I encouraged my trainees to become familiar with local and county muni codes, the penal code, B&P, H&S, W&I, and others. The more educated the cop, the more effective.

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I like to tell the sidewalk lawyers, "Fine. If you think I'm violating your (whichever) right, then don't stop me. Let me do what I'm doing and then you can sue me and my agency for Miiiillliiiooonnnnsss of dollars. You're leaving money on the table arguing with me."

Funny, they never do shut up about it and do what I'm asking/directing/ordering. Guess they don't want or don't believe they'll get that big payday. Go figure.
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