Calguns.net  

Home My iTrader Join the NRA Donate to CGSSA Sponsors CGN Google Search
CA Semiauto Ban(AW)ID Flowchart CA Handgun Ban ID Flowchart CA Shotgun Ban ID Flowchart
Go Back   Calguns.net > SPECIALTY FORUMS > Calguns LEOs
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Calguns LEOs LEOs; chat, kibitz and relax. Non-LEOs; have a questions for a cop? Ask it here, in a CIVIL manner.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-06-2013, 12:46 AM
lifeofduty lifeofduty is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 159
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default DELETED

DELETED

Last edited by lifeofduty; 09-02-2014 at 2:22 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-06-2013, 1:45 AM
Ron-Solo's Avatar
Ron-Solo Ron-Solo is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Classified
Posts: 8,581
iTrader: 16 / 100%
Default

To answer your questions:

1. Sometimes, depends on circumstances. Not enough info here to determine. Same for EMS/Fire

2. Door could have been unlocked. Many ways to get in that don't need kicking a door.

3. Depends on what was said in call or other info they had. Can't answer based on the info you have.

4. Not that I'm aware of.
__________________
LASD Retired
1978-2011

NRA Life Member
CRPA Life Member
NRA Rifle Instructor
NRA Shotgun Instructor
NRA Range Safety Officer
DOJ Certified Instructor
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-06-2013, 6:14 AM
sbcfd sbcfd is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 232
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Fire and ems can enter because they are not there for any reason other then a persons welfare.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-06-2013, 11:35 AM
tyrist tyrist is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,564
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sbcfd View Post
Fire and ems can enter because they are not there for any reason other then a persons welfare.
The police can force entry for the same reason.


To the OP: Every agency has different policies on the deployment of shoulder arms so I cannot answer for certain but the chances are there was a reasonable belief an armed person was inside of the location. The police might haven entered or the possible victim let them in through another entrance such as a window.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-07-2013, 3:56 PM
Jongage's Avatar
Jongage Jongage is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Rescue, CA
Posts: 367
iTrader: 2 / 100%
Default

As fire we get a lot of "medical alarm" calls. We usually find an open window or a door that we can force open without breaking things. However our agency considers a medical alarm as existent circumstances, and condones this type of response.

No alarm, no 911 call. No entry
__________________
Propane
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-08-2013, 12:39 PM
WyattandDoc WyattandDoc is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 767
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default Warrantless Entries

1. Fresh Pursuit
2. Protection of Life/Property
3. Prevent the Destruction of Evidence
4. Consent to Enter
__________________
Knives don't stab people, cars don't drive drunk, eating utensils don't make you fat and pencils don't mis-spell words.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-08-2013, 1:29 PM
Just-in's Avatar
Just-in Just-in is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 2,176
iTrader: 18 / 100%
Default

Another thing to consider is a medical alert alarm/ bracelet. Sometimes other neighbors will have a house key, or the alarm company will notify first responders of a hidden key location. I've yet to see a house with a Knox Box lol. Doesn't sound like the case here but I've experienced it.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-15-2013, 5:13 PM
sjb269 sjb269 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Morgan Hill
Posts: 297
iTrader: 5 / 86%
Default

My days of entering through a window/back door on a third party 911 activation are over. These days PD goes in first to clear the area.
If someone is on the phone with dispatch and can't make it to the door and needs medical help, different story..sure well enter. In 16 years, I have only found one house that didn't have at least one window/door that couldn't be bypassed with minimal ingenuity.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 6:26 PM.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Proudly hosted by GeoVario the Premier 2A host.
Calguns.net, the 'Calguns' name and all associated variants and logos are ® Trademark and © Copyright 2002-2021, Calguns.net an Incorporated Company All Rights Reserved.
All opinions, statements and remarks made by Calguns.net on this web site and elsewhere are solely attributable to Calguns.net.



Seams2SewBySusy