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Old 05-12-2018, 1:07 PM
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https://votejoeforsheriff.com/support/

Donate, get some yard signs, support him in your social (offline and online) circles, etc.

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true that on Joe, what can we do to assist his campaign? anyone have any thoughts?
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there were a couple of threads re. the SC sheriff's race but, for being the most populous county in NorCal, there wasn't much interest.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/f...play.php?f=307

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Joe is our best bet, from the sound of it, he would make us dark green if elected. Just wondering how long the odds are? I have been talking to him the last few days. hes a good guy
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Dear Friend,

Just a few weeks until Election Day and Joe is surging in the polls. According to the Mercury News, he is in a statistical tie for second place to Laurie Smith and IS running second among Independents, Santa Clara County's second-largest voter bloc.

We need to raise $10,000 right away to pay for signs, robo-calls, and other voter contact materials to ensure Joe gets into the runoff.

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Please donate $25, $50, $100, $250, $500 or a maximum of $1,000 today!

Remember, Joe is the ONLY candidate for Sheriff who opposes SB 54 and sanctuary cities and WILL issue CCWs for legitimate self-defense.

Please contribute your maximum amount today!

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So, I take current events isn't good news based on the zero posts here since yesterday's election (primary)?

More plop-plop-fizz-fizz?
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So, I take current events isn't good news based on the zero posts here since yesterday's election (primary)?

More plop-plop-fizz-fizz?
I read somewhere that Smith will be in a runoff in Nov against Hirokawa. Since he's attacking Smith for being too conservative/Trump, I doubt he'll issue more CCWs than Smith.

Since her job is at risk, this might be the time to approach her to loosen issuance, to shore up and energize her Right (since her challenger is taking the Left).
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June 5 primary results for Santa Clara County Sheriff:

LAURIE SMITH 43.98% 78,828
JOHN HIROKAWA 31.08% 55,702
JOE LA JEUNESSE 11.91% 21,342
JOSE SALCIDO 8.63% 15,466
MARTIN J. MONICA 4.40% 7,895


I'll vote against Hirokawa in the general since some of the crazies in my neighborhood are supporting him.
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Sheesh... being labeled a conservative is the new "racist" of the lefty.

If those are the two choices for Santa Clara county... it's time for y'all to seriously consider finding a new CCW friendly county.
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For the record, a buddy of mine in the department (who one could not call "liberal" in any sense) says Hirokawa is the best option of the group.
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For the record, a buddy of mine in the department (who one could not call "liberal" in any sense) says Hirokawa is the best option of the group.
Best option from the standpoint of CCW issuance?
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For the record, a buddy of mine in the department (who one could not call "liberal" in any sense) says Hirokawa is the best option of the group.
What "group"? The primary is over. There's only going to be Smith and Hirokawa on the ballot in November. Hirokawa used to be a Repub, but switched to Dem and has been attacking Smith from the Left, describing her as a Trump/conservative. I'd need a link to a news source to believe Hirokawa will be more pro CCW than Smith. (Actually, that should be "to believe Hirokawa will be less anti CCW than Smith.")
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[UPDATE 2018-06-12: I'm rethinking my position about voting "against" Mr. Hirokawa. See locomike's post further down.]

These are the political organizations that endorse Mr. Hirokawa (from his campaign page). I think I'm still going to vote against him, despite my dislike of Sheriff Smith.

Santa Clara County Democratic Party
Democratic Activists for Women Now (DAWN)
City of Santa Clara Democratic Club
Democratic Club of Sunnyvale
Silicon Valley Asian Pacific American Democratic Club
Silicon Valley Young Democrats
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Of the 2, Hirokawa is our guy. Hes smart enough not to publicly say much on CCW. I can pretty much guarantee you the CCW situation will improve under Hirokawa though. I know someone in his campaign. Im not going to say any more on the public post here. And Smith, I dont think, will budge on CCW till hell freezes over.
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Of the 2, Hirokawa is our guy. Hes smart enough not to publicly say much on CCW. I can pretty much guarantee you the CCW situation will improve under Hirokawa though. I know someone in his campaign. Im not going to say any more on the public post here. And Smith, I dont think, will budge on CCW till hell freezes over.
Hmm ... interesting. I may need to rethink my current position. Thanks for the tidbit.
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CCW issuance could not get any worse than it is under Smith. I'd vote for any steaming pile of dog crap before I ever vote for her. The odds of getting a CCW would improve! For this reason alone, Hirokawa has my vote.
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Of the 2, Hirokawa is our guy. Hes smart enough not to publicly say much on CCW. I can pretty much guarantee you the CCW situation will improve under Hirokawa though. I know someone in his campaign. Im not going to say any more on the public post here. And Smith, I dont think, will budge on CCW till hell freezes over.
The guy who's attacking Smith as a Trump conservative will issue more CCWs than Smith??? Color me skeptical.

If that's not true, you just got a new, younger anti as sheriff who will be there longer, until he decides to retire.

What I do know is that Smith (b. 1952) is a lot older than Hirokawa, so she'll probably be replaced/retire sooner than Hirokawa, giving you a earlier opening for electing a real pro CCW sheriff.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurie_Smith
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Smith threw Hirokawa and the jailers that were convicted of murder under the bus and refused to take responsibility, so for that reason Hirokawa has my vote. Laurie ain't giving us CCW's until she is forced to by law or we are allowed to carry anyway via national reciprocity. Hirokawa might be coming from left field on his attacks but so be it. It is literally impossible to be any worse than Smith on CCW
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This right here. I will vote for whatever name that isn't "Smith".
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Interesting that that was published last October and none of us here noticed it. This part is also interesting:

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I submitted an application in Feb 2014 (which I believe to have been one of the early applicants) for which I never received any type of response. This statement I quoted from their webpage says that they are actually reviewing those applications. If this review process started in Oct 2017, why haven't I heard anything yet? Probably because my application went into the trash 4 years ago!
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Why? What's the urgency? What's changed???

As far as I can tell, nothing's changed.

Smith's CCW webpage you linked still talks of Peruta as if it were still pending: it's not. We lost en banc and SCOTUS denied cert over a year ago. This shows a published date of "10/6/2017"

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The Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office is currently accepting and processing CCW applications. However, due to the extremely large number of applications we received during the Peruta v. San Diego arguments in Federal Court, there is a tremendous backlog. Please be patient as we work our way through the backlog. As such, we are not able to provide status updates on individual applications at this time.
Her CCW Policy linked at that CCW webpage hasn't recently changed either: it too talks of Peruta as pending.

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Please don't laugh too hard at this one.
Is there a guideline for good cause in Santa Clara County?
Something a bit more intuitive than, "You need to donate to the Sheriff's cause" type of response?
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Please don't laugh too hard at this one.
Is there a guideline for good cause in Santa Clara County?
Something a bit more intuitive than, "You need to donate to the Sheriff's cause" type of response?


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Yes, there is. You need to donate to the sheriff's cause!
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Please don't laugh too hard at this one.
Is there a guideline for good cause in Santa Clara County?
Something a bit more intuitive than, "You need to donate to the Sheriff's cause" type of response?
You might want to look at LAPD's CCW GC policy:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1423638

and SDSO's CCW GC policy:
https://www.sdsheriff.net/licensing/ccw.html

and my guess is that Santa Clara SO's policy will be somewhere between both of those. Be sure to provide "proof"/evidence to support whatever reasons you use to claim you're at higher risk of being attacked than the average law-abiding resident of Santa Clara Co.

Also be sure to let us know how it goes, what their attitudes were to you applying, were they encouraging and helpful, or discouraging and unhelpful, etc.

After the process is finished, let us know if you got denied or issued and either way, what your GC statement was like, but not with so much detail as to ID you. Example: you're a property manager who often collects cash rents in bad parts of town and has to deposit them weekly vs. you're a property manager with ACME Real Estate who makes large cash deposits at Paragon Bank at 25th Ave & Vine St Thursdays around 10 am....
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For those who are actually willing to do something (i.e., work), to improve CCW issuance in Santa Clara Co, you should read the posting by Michael Schwartz, the head of San Diego Co Gun Owners PAC who got Sheriff Gore (yeah, that Gore of Ruby Ridge fame) to liberalize his issuance.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...6#post22054546

If Gore could be persuaded to liberalize issuance, I think Sheriff Smith could be persuaded too.

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our odds are WAY better with Hirakawa (sp?) he is our best choice by far.
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our odds are WAY better with Hirakawa (sp?) he is our best choice by far.
Based upon what? Where has he said is pro CCW or even that he's less anti CCW than Smith?

He flipped his party registration from Repub to Dem to attack Smith from the Left. Parties and their platforms "mean things."

His attacking Smith from the Left means that she can't go there to get more votes, she has to round up and energize her base, incl the Right (what is left of it in SC Co). Just going to "yellow" and issuing more CCWs will do that. Better that some can get CCWs vs virtually none.

If Gore's mind could be (and was) changed, Smith's could too. (Hirokawa's too, but he's less likely IMO given his move to the Left.)
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You might want to look at LAPD's CCW GC policy:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1423638

and SDSO's CCW GC policy:
https://www.sdsheriff.net/licensing/ccw.html

and my guess is that Santa Clara SO's policy will be somewhere between both of those. Be sure to provide "proof"/evidence to support whatever reasons you use to claim you're at higher risk of being attacked than the average law-abiding resident of Santa Clara Co.

Also be sure to let us know how it goes, what their attitudes were to you applying, were they encouraging and helpful, or discouraging and unhelpful, etc.

After the process is finished, let us know if you got denied or issued and either way, what your GC statement was like, but not with so much detail as to ID you. Example: you're a property manager who often collects cash rents in bad parts of town and has to deposit them weekly vs. you're a property manager with ACME Real Estate who makes large cash deposits at Paragon Bank at 25th Ave & Vine St Thursdays around 10 am....
Thank you Paladin, I just saw this post.
I will report back if anything comes of it.
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Hirokawa cannot be any worse than "zero regular people issue for 20 years" Smith. I'll vote for him just because he isn't her.
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Hirokawa cannot be any worse than "zero regular people issue for 20 years" Smith. I'll vote for him just because he isn't her.
Like it or not, for better or worse, challengers very rarely beat incumbent sheriffs in CA elections. Smith will most likely win reelection. But since that is not guaranteed, I suggest using this opening to your advantage.

Rather than sitting back and squandering the opportunity, I suggest you SC Co folk organize and do what San Diego Co Gun Owners PAC did. That, IMO, is your best chance and much better than blindly voting "anyone but Smith" without trying anything else.

ETA: Plus, as I replied to you before above:

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The guy who's attacking Smith as a Trump conservative will issue more CCWs than Smith??? Color me skeptical.

If that's not true, you just got a new, younger anti as sheriff who will be there longer, until he decides to retire.

What I do know is that Smith (b. 1952) is a lot older than Hirokawa, so she'll probably be replaced/retire sooner than Hirokawa, giving you a earlier opening for electing a real pro CCW sheriff.
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This is a good article about all of the candidates. Unfortunately, none of them seem to be for Americans.
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This is a good article about all of the candidates. Unfortunately, none of them seem to be for Americans.
https://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/...nge-of-culture
Just skimming over that I did not see "CCW" or "concealed carry" mentioned.

If you guys want to get an idea of whether Smith will lose or not, search online for the percent of all votes cast for all other candidates and add them to Hirokawa's and see if that percent is greater or less than the percent Smith won in the June primary.

FWIW, of all "lower 5"/"vital 5" SFBA counties (SF, SM, SC, AL and CoCoCo), SC is the ONLY one with a significant Repub presence. That's why I keep encouraging you folks to organize and act (while you still can). You're our only hope for a non-judicial improvement in CCW issuance in the lower 5 SFBA.
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Iím willing to help out with whatever I can. I just canít do any planning or organizing. Let me know if you guys need anything.
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Have you guys even contacted the SO and told them you want Sheriff Smith to liberalize CCW issuance by broadening acceptable GC?

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If you have any questions, please email CCW@sheriff.sccgov.org
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Have you even contacted Sheriff Smith's campaign to tell them you want her to liberalize CCW issuance by broadening acceptable GC?
Here's her campaign's FB page: https://www.facebook.com/lauriesmithreelection/

"Faint heart never won fair lady." "Fortune favors the bold." "Nothing ventured, nothing gained."

Whiners are bad enough, but passive men -- men who whine and do nothing -- are pathetic.

ETA: For being the most populous county in NorCal/SFBA, and the most conservative (i.e., smallest Dem majority) SFBA county, there are depressingly few regular posters in Santa Clara/SJ forums....
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I’m willing to help out with whatever I can. I just can’t do any planning or organizing. Let me know if you guys need anything.
Don't include me in "you guys": I don't even live in Santa Clara Co!

EVERYONE wants a CCW, but no one wants to do the work to make it possible. Again, see what Michael Schwartz had to do over 2 1/2 years to liberate San Diego county:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1473169

Of the 5 lower SFBA counties (SF, SM, SC, Ala and CoCoCo), you've got the best chance for positive change. Don't waste this opportunity.
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GS2AC had a meeting last night, Aug 30th. Anyone go to it?

If so, how was it? Can you give us an overview of what went on?

What are they doing to increase the # of CCWs issued by either the SO or their various cities' PDs?

https://gs2ac.com/blogs/
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