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According to this they can require a psyche test if they require it of all applicants. But it doesn't say anything about the insurance.
http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/dow..._CCW_Guide.pdf
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Insurance is definitely not a lawful requirement.
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I've called the ACSO CCW permit phone number 4 times today. Each time it has gone to voice mail.
No real thoughts on this so far. Just documenting it.
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"Ask me about the Modern Whig Party of California. Extreme Moderates at the Radical Center of common sense politics. http://www.cawhigparty.org/ " WHAT?
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If you want to know more you can PM me or we can start a thread in another forum.
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Go get 'em Brandon. Take them down
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It has now been over a week since I first called the ACSO. They are no long answering their phones in the CCW dept. I have called everyday, two to four times a day and always it goes to voice mail.
I shall update when the situation changes.
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I'm looking to get a Alameda CCW as well. Same boat. I was just about to apply with the Sheriff when I caught the fine print about the 'apply with local PD first' policy. Finding no resources on the PD's website I was informed that should write a letter to the PD Chief. My letter has gone unanswered. I figure at this point I can go to the Sheriff with proof that I tried to play by their 'policy' and now it's time we play by the rules.
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How bad would it be if I were to call the anonymous tip line and tell them that their office is breaking the law?
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Be prepared to pay no more than $20 in local fees, $95 for the background check, and their local print rolling fee *at the most*. You can only be required to complete and submit the Standard DOJ application, also at the weblink I posted above; their other forms are unlawful. The Sheriff's Office is compelled to accept applications. We're here to help them remember that. -Brandon
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Yeah, I'll bet as soon as the applicant's back is turned it goes right into the round file!
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OT: Are the pro-RKBA "fireworks" going to happen before or after the 4th of July?
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End of week check in. 5 up and 5 down. I've called at least twice a day sometimes 5 times a day. Usually it goes to voice mail now. I'd say 80% of the time. When they do pick up they no longer say "Public CCW line", they now say "Internal affairs". When questioned she says "Oh yeah we do ccw as well". I get the same song and dance. When I ask to speak to the supervisor she is never available.
I'm done with trying the phone. Next week I'll be going in person.
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Bumping this up...
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Ok, at what point do you feel this was constructive to this conversation?
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It's not quite a "run a fire drill", but not intended to be a limited comment, either.
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At the risk of this dropping off, and I have a viable concern...
Can a DV victim (BF/GF type violence) in ALCO be "similarly situated"? Can I have my friend get her into contact with me for this purpose? Erik. |
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Reading about the death of Michelle Le (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=441444) got me wondering if Hayward PD (http://www.ci.hayward.ca.us/departme...e/spolice.shtm), still has illegal requirements for getting a CCW.
It looks like they've declared G and are no longer issuing, but rather referring applicants to the Alameda Co Sheriffs Office. Below is their FAQs webpage re CCWs (http://user.govoutreach.com/hayward/faq.php?cid=11074). I've bolded a few points for emphasis. Concealed Weapon Permit The City of Hayward Police Department has adopted the practice of referring private person Concealed Weapon License applicants to the Alameda County Sheriff’s Office in accordance with Penal Code Section 12050(g). Carrying a concealed weapon by private citizens is a privilege, not a right and the issuance of such license is at the discretion of the Sheriff. The following are standards for the issuance of a Carry Concealed Weapons Licenses (CCW) by the Sheriff’s Office: The applicant’s primary residence must be in Alameda County, unless applying for a 90-day employment license or as a reserve peace officer/custodial officer The applicant must be of good moral character The applicant must demonstrate that good cause exists for issuing a concealed weapon license Applications for Concealed Weapon Licenses are processed in phases. Applicants must successfully complete each phase before proceeding to the next. The applicant must meet several other criteria before a permit would be issued, including: complete a certified firearms safety course submit proof of firearm registration pass a firearms qualifications test submit to a psychological examination at the applicant's expense obtain and provide evidence liability insurance policy For more information on Carry Concealed Weapon Licenses and the application process, please call the Alameda County Sheriff’s CCW Office at 510-208-9890.
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Status?
Just wondering what the status is in regards to CCW is for Alameda? We have good cause statements available, but what are the implications to this? Does this just mean they have to honor an applicants good cause statement if it was already excepted previously?
And from what I have read here is seems that Alameda Sheriffs office is just Deep sixing/stonewalling everything, is this going to open up legal avenues for getting CCW issued? |
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Standing by...
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I'll be listening...
Bari, tenor or what? (I know it ain't no soprano...) If it's a bari do the foghorn!
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They'll call the cops, then I'll get a disorderly conduct... Erik. |
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We'll certainly know when it's time, but ALCO is considered a red "hold out" county, and will be among the last of the counties to begin complying.
**EDIT** It was a huge step for us to be able to get the known accepted good cause statements. If you haven't, check the good cause statements, and see how you are similarly situated (if you are). Erik. |
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What do you mean "might"? Liability insurance requirements are completely unlawful as of 1/1/2012.
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I spoke with a lady at ACSO over the phone about a month ago. She was nice enough and asked me a number of questions regarding just why I thought I needed a concealed weapon. After a bit of conversation, she agreed to send me out a packet with all the info. She also explained that there was some legal issues in the works that "might" have an effect on their current insurance and psychological testing requirements sometime in 2012. She did not say it directly, but she led me to think that I would be better off waiting to submit any paperwork to their office until whatever that legislation is was decided upon. Is it a fact at this point that after Jan 1, 2012 those items will no longer be required? If so, would it be smart to submit an application? I'm really reluctant due to all I've heard about the unending implications once you have been "denied" by an agency.
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It's the 28th. You can easily wait until Tuesday/Wednesday, but I wouldn't have high expectations about getting the LTC. Being denied by a no-issue county should have no bearing on applications in more sensible places. Being denied for cause, however, rather than the whim of the issuing agency, might be a reason for concern.
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Agreed to send? No.
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