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Old 04-13-2018, 5:40 PM
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That'd be a weird choice over a select-fire AR... caliber, platform, or form factor. AR's can be any size.
What's so weird about cops wanting to use the same ammo and magazines as their sidearms? They have more need for that than the typical schmuck on the street.

Plus, fewer worries about liability using rifle calibers. People can hardly complain about overpenetration with the same caliber as their pistols.
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Old 04-13-2018, 6:12 PM
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What's so weird about cops wanting to use the same ammo and magazines as their sidearms? They have more need for that than the typical schmuck on the street.

Plus, fewer worries about liability using rifle calibers. People can hardly complain about overpenetration with the same caliber as their pistols.
Yeah, I disagree. I was setup outside a bank waiting for a crew of armed bad guys to come storming out, I'd always rather have a rifle caliber. Not necessarily an AR-10, but wouldn't rule that out either.

There's a reason no significant percentage of LEO's would consider "upgrading" AR's with 9mm carbines. IMHO. AR's do a lot more and shoot greater distances more accurately. I love those PCC's but as far as LEO's I wouldn't expect them to dump AR's for 9mm's ever. I wouldn't care if I could click in a 17 rounder from my Glock. I'd be fine with as many AR 30 rounders as I could carry.

Ruger obviously has a winner on its hands but its for guys like me, not depts... IMHO. I like the gimmick of sharing mags with all my Glocks. I bet cops don't care.
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Just picked up my threaded barrel Ruger PC9 today. Mounted a Sig Romeo red dot and changed it out to take Glock mags. Looking forward to a range trip soon. Sold my Sig MPX and switched to the Ruger PC9 so I could have/us the same mags as my Glocks and no stupid Bullet Button!

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Yeah, I disagree. I was setup outside a bank waiting for a crew of armed bad guys to come storming out, I'd always rather have a rifle caliber. Not necessarily an AR-10, but wouldn't rule that out either.

There's a reason no significant percentage of LEO's would consider "upgrading" AR's with 9mm carbines. IMHO. AR's do a lot more and shoot greater distances more accurately. I love those PCC's but as far as LEO's I wouldn't expect them to dump AR's for 9mm's ever. I wouldn't care if I could click in a 17 rounder from my Glock. I'd be fine with as many AR 30 rounders as I could carry.

Ruger obviously has a winner on its hands but its for guys like me, not depts... IMHO. I like the gimmick of sharing mags with all my Glocks. I bet cops don't care.
Maybe if every patrol car can carry an AR. Is that the case? I know it wasn't a few years ago. It was an 870, maybe. Rather have a PCC than that.
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Old 04-13-2018, 9:07 PM
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Just picked up my threaded barrel Ruger PC9 today. Mounted a Sig Romeo red dot and changed it out to take Glock mags. Looking forward to a range trip soon. Sold my Sig MPX and switched to the Ruger PC9 so I could have/us the same mags as my Glocks and no stupid Bullet Button!
I'm very interested to hear your opinions of it vs the MPX. How smooth it is, amount of dot bounce, etc. I plan to use it in PCC, probably against a lot of MPX's.
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Maybe if every patrol car can carry an AR. Is that the case? I know it wasn't a few years ago. It was an 870, maybe. Rather have a PCC than that.
Besides floor mounts there are ceiling mounts and partition mounts... I’ve seen quite a few on partition mounts but that’s probably because they are so visible mounted there. Anything fits in the trunk.
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Old 04-14-2018, 8:53 AM
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Purchased one last night at Fresno Sportsmans. For $529.00, not the best price but they had 20 in stock. They will sell quickly!
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Here's mine with the LOP sorted for the eye box of the RT-6 mounted low and a bipod... it looks like both eyes open will be easy even on 1-3 mag. Nice clear glass. Still have only shot the one with the red dot.
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Old 04-14-2018, 9:58 AM
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Anyone seen these on offer in the Sacramento area?

Edit: Sportsman's in Rocklin had 4 left as of noon today.

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Old 04-14-2018, 10:38 AM
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Here's mine with the LOP sorted for the eye box of the RT-6 mounted low and a bipod... it looks like both eyes open will be easy even on 1-3 mag. Nice clear glass. Still have only shot the one with the red dot.

A Bipod on a Carbine?
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Both my FF3's came with PIC mount in the box, unlike RMR's which came with nothing and even had to buy seal / screw kits to mount on MOS system Glocks. No covers or anything either. Trijicon doesn't give you jack tish extra.

You won't need a mount for the TRS-25 - it should be a low PIC mount on it for the standard non-AR model, where if you mount on an AR and want lower 1/3 you'd have to get a riser mount like an $8 UTG or LEAPERS. IIRC I have one on a riser mount on AR22 and one on the PIC mount on a .22 pistol - they are OK, but the Vortex Crossfire RDS is closer to a SPARC so far (great). Crossfire's come with AR mount on it and a low PIC mount in the box too.
The TRS-25 fitted nicely without risers. Great results....right on target at 25 yards (Jackson Arms range limit)...Amazing quality for $48 on Amazon
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Old 04-14-2018, 5:38 PM
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A Bipod on a Carbine?
No, it is an illusion, heheh.
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Great news that they called you, what is your invoice date when you pre-ordered?
Sorry for the delay, I don't check here as often as I should.
I preordered 12th Jan at the Turners in Fountain Valley CA.
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Old 04-15-2018, 4:38 PM
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Sorry for the delay, I don't check here as often as I should.
I preordered 12th Jan at the Turners in Fountain Valley CA.
No problem, just curious on the order date. Enjoy your carbine!
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Old 04-15-2018, 5:49 PM
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Do we know that there is room in the magwell for a larger Glock 20/21 magazines?
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I have one in jail, just need to find the time to travel the two hour round trip to pick it up this week.
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Do we know that there is room in the magwell for a larger Glock 20/21 magazines?
I am still waiting to dros mine, but I imagine with the magwell interchangeability this should not be an issue for other calibers in the future.
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Just picked up my threaded barrel Ruger PC9 today. Mounted a Sig Romeo red dot and changed it out to take Glock mags. Looking forward to a range trip soon. Sold my Sig MPX and switched to the Ruger PC9 so I could have/us the same mags as my Glocks and no stupid Bullet Button!

This is the setup that I want. I have my pc carbine(threaded barrel model) and will get the Romeo 4S and Juliet 4
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Old 04-16-2018, 6:01 PM
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Dros'd both TB PC Carbines this afternoon at Turners.

I want to say thank you to Chris aka ThatOneTurnersGuy during this wait time. I was getting mixed answers from the store and was considering canceling my order. I sent Chris a PM, he responded in a quick manner and gave me concise answers that made sense and made this wait time bearable. Good on Turners giving us an avenue to communicate.
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Old 04-16-2018, 11:32 PM
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so is turners getting a steady supply in or is there still a major wait list?
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so is turners getting a steady supply in or is there still a major wait list?
Turners is filling their preorders only at this point, the salesperson said they should fill them all by end of May.

I don't know how many the West Covina store received but it yesterday was Ruger PCC dros day.
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Just DROS’d a threaded barrel model yesterday, looking at muzzle brake options. Has anyone tried out the Lantac Dragon? They have a 9mm version with the correct thread pattern. It’s a little pricey but I’ve heard good things about their 5.56/223 brakes

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Just DROS’d a threaded barrel model yesterday, looking at muzzle brake options. Has anyone tried out the Lantac Dragon? They have a 9mm version with the correct thread pattern. It’s a little pricey but I’ve heard good things about their 5.56/223 brakes

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I have 556 and 762 Dragon's. They are pretty sweet on rifle calibers.

I'd recommend looking at the TTI comp.

http://tarantacticalinnovations.com/9mm-compensator/
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I have 556 and 762 Dragon's. They are pretty sweet on rifle calibers.



I'd recommend looking at the TTI comp.



http://tarantacticalinnovations.com/9mm-compensator/


Yeah the TTI is probably the way to go, quite a bit cheaper too. I want to put some rounds through it without a comp, to see how big of a difference it makes


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I have a Sig Romeo5 coming, I read an account that it would co-witness with the low mount, I am skeptical though.
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I have a Sig Romeo5 coming, I read an account that it would co-witness with the low mount, I am skeptical though.
That'd be great if it does. Please post ASAP.
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Yeah the TTI is probably the way to go, quite a bit cheaper too. I want to put some rounds through it without a comp, to see how big of a difference it makes
A 9mm really doesn't recoil enough to be a bother, UNLESS you're shooting it in competition, where hundredths of a second count. And if you are, anything from Taran Butler is going to be good stuff. If it's cheaper to boot, can't go wrong choosing it.
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I have a Sig Romeo5 coming, I read an account that it would co-witness with the low mount, I am skeptical though.
3rdiguy's picture above shows a Romeo 4 with low mount. So it must work fine.
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I'd recommend looking at the TTI comp.

http://tarantacticalinnovations.com/9mm-compensator/
That looks pretty darn heavy. They didn't post the weight. Did you weigh yours?
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3rdiguy's picture above shows a Romeo 4 with low mount. So it must work fine.
Sounds positive then. I will report back on the Romeo5 this weekend.
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That looks pretty darn heavy. They didn't post the weight. Did you weigh yours?
It really isn't that big, and it is hollow

I didn't weigh it and I can't promise I'll uninstall it from its crush washer to weigh it, but it seems reasonable.



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Just DROS mine this morning at Turner’s FV. I had preordered it in early Jan. Mine is the threaded barrel version. Felt very solid in the hands. The manager Andrew said they’re expecting another shipment of 200pcs arriving in the next few weeks.
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Has anyone heard of anyone improving the trigger?
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Only one I've seen so far
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Still no M&P magazines conversion kit? I wish I knew how to engineer that myself. I'd make a pretty penny.
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Has anyone heard of anyone improving the trigger?
Ruger has said it is the 10/22 trigger group...

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Old 04-20-2018, 7:57 AM
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Ruger has said it is the 10/22 trigger group...

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...postcount=1052
Sorry if this has already been answered, but does that mean a complete 10/22 trigger group assembly will plug right in? This carbine sounds like it would be hilariously fun with one of Kidd's 2lb trigger packs.
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Sorry if this has already been answered, but does that mean a complete 10/22 trigger group assembly will plug right in? This carbine sounds like it would be hilariously fun with one of Kidd's 2lb trigger packs.
It sounded like it from what Ruger has been saying about the trigger group, but some parts might be a little different. The guy in the vimeo video said said he had to use a 10/22 disco IIRC. Seems workable. The first ones I saw were via Facebook groups dedicated to the PCC. People heard what Ruger said and started trying Volquartsen parts immediately.

Other resources for info would be private Facebook groups and Ruger Forums.
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I read it is not a 10-22 Trigger housing but that 10-22 trigger components fit inside.
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