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If you try it, please take some pictures along the way, I know this slows down the project quite a bit but it seems that it might benifit some other calgunners.
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Yeah... I'll probably do that.
I was craving out my stock but when I was stepping the holes inside the butt-stock it cracked it apart on both sides. I could save it, but it's just not going to look as amazing so I'll have start over at a later date. I was so disappointed when it happened, but that's the risk I was running.. Anyway, I already started stripping my original stock... I've done 5 stripping runs so far and the wood is still really dark. I'll probably get what I need to do a 2 part hydrogen peroxide bleach tomorrow. |
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I just happened to have bleached a Bulgy furniture last night. just used 25% bleach (clorox) to 75% hot water...soaked it for a few hours until I got the results that I wanted. Didn't take pictures of the pre-bleached wood, but it was a darker stained furniture set. Went through the 2 citristrip processes and it was still a bit "stained". It is a spare set, so I figured I'd try bleaching now. pics up when I get home.
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Yeah he did, at least that what I read. Can't wait to see the pics!
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Anyway, I cant wait to see it either... I'll do before/afters of mine as well... I'll get what I need tomorrow. |
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sorry been having internet problems at home today...Yes...citristrip first then bleach. gets the varnish or shellac off so you can bleach the wood. keep in mind that these were hardwood pieces, not sure how laminates would hold up to being soaked for hours. May be fine, but I havn't tried it.
Now it's time to sand. |
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Thanks Mach, I have aspirations of adding some bakelite refinishing on here too. Once I finish my top handguard I'll throw it on the rifle you helped me with last weekend and throw some pics of the completed rifle on here.
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bakelite refinishing! can't wait.
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Great tutorial. I'm using your method to do my Romy stock. I cut off the donkey dong since my rifle is featureless, and am using the cutoff portion to test out different stain. The first coat is drying as we speak. After looking at samples I bought a can of the Gunstock 231, and a can of Sedona Red 222. Right now I like the way the Red looks, but I may use the Gunstock as a base coat and go over it several times with the Red to try and simulate a nice dark Russian Red kind of color. Hopefully I'll be finished in a couple of weeks. My schedule is pretty hectic right now.
Thanks again for the great tutorial which gave me the inspiration to try this.
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please feel free to post some pics of your project.
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just finished coat four.
Once its all done i will post it. Your guide has been very helpful. I feel like a professional haha. |
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Here's a pic of it after 2nd coat of Sedona Red. In the sun the pic shows more red than you see in person. I'm thinking of using some Rit Dye in Scarlet Red to finish it. What do you think.
For the wipe on poly, did you just wipe it on and wait for it to dry, or did you actually rub the poly into the wood?
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The poly needs to be "wiped on" with an old t-shirt and then let it dry, hit it with steel wool between coats too. I think the "rubbing in" is more for the stain then the poly coats.
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As promised here are the pics of the finished furniture. 3 coats of Sedona Red 222 and 5 coats of Clear Satin Wipe on Poly and voila...
This pic doesn't show as much red as you see in person. I was going to try and get a more reddish color, but when I compared it to my 91/30 the color was very close. They turned out so nice I'm not sure my AK is worthy of them. I may just have to build another. Thanks again Aimsmall, your method worked out great.
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Looks Good!
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great post, as a guy who spends most of his days working with and finishing wood, i would like to add one step and one emphasis. when you steam wood, as you said, make sure the wood is completely dry before sanding/staining. if you dont, the wood will shrink and you are left with a bigger dent. second, after using steel wool there will be all sorts of tiny peices of metal that can mess up a finish. a good way to get them all is buy a good magnet from the hardware store (i use a 10 pack of neomydium magnets, maybe $5), wrap them in a rag and wipe, the magnets will pick up the metal dust, so it doesnt get in the finish.
great post and good luck |
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I just got done refinishing another Romy G furniture set and a Bulgy ak74 set too, I'll add some pics to show the different color stain I used on the Bulgy and I used Tung oil instead of wipe on Poly on the Romy kit. While the tung oil does give a nice finish, I still think I like the wipe on poly a little better.
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Posts # 8 and #9 have been updated with new pictures, will edit later to include more "how to info" and stain color info. Hey Munk, did you ever finish that stock you bleached, We're still waiting on Pics as well as stain and clear coat info. ..
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"Donkey dong," hahahahaha. |
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Because the paint will "seep" past the tape due to the grains in the wood, plus you're going to clear over it anyway.
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Wanted to thank AIMSMALL for the how too's . Came out great!!! I did buy some more different types of stain to play around with .
Dark Walnut 2716 Sedona Red 222 Ebony 2718 1:Citristrip for 30 mins first coat. 2:Citristrip over night. 3:Let the wood dry for 24 hours before sanding. 4:Sanded with 100 Grit Then Sanded with 320 Grit. Next time will do 100,220,320. 5:Added MinxWax Pre-Stain 6:withen 2 hours added my first coat of Gunstock #231 let it dry for 6 hours. 7:Added 4 more coats waiting 6 hours after each coat. Total of 5 coats. 8:Added the Minwax Wipe On Poly 5 coats waiting 2 hours each coat and sanding with 00000 steel wool each coat. |
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They look great.
Congrats.
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If the original clearcoat varnish is totally gone from the wood, I recommend using the dishwasher (at your office or your house depending on whether you fear your office admin or your wife less) at the pots & pan settings. No soap, just heat and water.
My wood came out pale grey after doing this and you can do a BUNCH of different sets at the same time. You may want to run the dishwasher EMPTY with soap for one cycle afterwards to rid the system of the smell. -g
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Thanks Guys. Munkeeboi how long did you let it soak and how long did you dry it before you sanded.
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Instead of using a clothes iron, do you think a clothes steamer would be as effective?
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Maybe, but I don't have one to try it plus I figured most people will have an iron. It's actually the steam that lifts the dents out so I'd say it's worth a try if you have one already. Let us know how it works out.
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What about the bakelite refinish? I have some cz52 bakelite I would like to do.
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I've just been super busy and haven't had time to play with the AK's lately. My plan was to sandblast an old bakelite pistol grip and then clear coat it but I haven't tried it yet to see how it looks. It's still on the list though.
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