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California law on how much powder one can have?
I have done some searches and cant find this answer. With powder availability loosening up, it is easy to want to load up. Can someone help me out with some answers on this? Thanks.
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How much black pepper are we allowed?
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you can have all the smokeless powder you want, so long as it is stored in brass cases with primers installed and a bullet on top
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That brings up another question. How much ammo can you legally have in one place? I see on the news about some guy getting busted for one thing or another and the cops find ammo in his garage or house and the next thing you know the bomb squad is called in and they're evacuating the neighborhood. That's not over a dozen box's of ammo for some guy who deer hunts and bird hunts. Thats a shooting enthusiast who either reloads or stocked up on ammo due to to these shortages. Bottom line is, how much is too much according to the law
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Nope... No limits on ammo.
There is a H&S statute that covers storage of powder and describes the type of magazine required, I suspect that quantities under 20lb are exempt.
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11-3.7 Smokeless propellants intended for personal use in quantities
not exceeding 20 lb. (9.1 kg) shall be permitted to be stored in original containers in residences. Quantities exceeding 20 lb. (9.1 kg), but not exceeding 50 lb. (22.7 kg), shall be permitted to be stored in residences where kept in a wooden box or cabinet having walls of at least 1 in. (25.4 mm) nominal thickness.
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Refer here as well.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/di...le=12101-12112 HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE SECTION 12101-12112 12102. This chapter does not apply to any possession or use of 20 pounds or less of smokeless powder, or one pound or less of black sporting powder, provided that: (a) Smokeless powder is intended only for hand loading of small arms ammunition of .75 caliber or less. (b) Black sporting powder is intended for loading of small arms or small arms ammunition of .75 caliber or less. (c) All such powder is for private use and not for resale, and, in the case of black sporting powder, there shall be no gift, delivery, or other disposition to another person. (d) The storage, use and handling of such smokeless and black powder conforms to rules, regulations, or ordinances of authorities having jurisdiction for fire prevention and suppression in the area of such storage, use, and handling of such explosives. |
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A hit that I get from Google says that 11-3.7 is: Reprinted with permission from NFPA 495: Explosive Material Code, Copyright Ā©1996, National Fire Protection Association, Quincy, MA 02269. This reprinted material is not the complete and official position of the National Fire Protection Association on the referenced subject which is represented only by the standard in its entirety That 11-3.7 doesn't appear to be a law. |
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5 pounds for black powder. 20 pounds for smokeless. Anything more than that would require a special permit.
If you don't get that permit: 12305. Every person not in the lawful possession of an explosive who knowingly has any explosive in his possession is guilty of a felony. 12401. Every person who is found guilty of a felony as specified in this part is punishable by imprisonment pursuant to subdivision (h) of Section 1170 of the Penal Code, or in a county jail not exceeding one year, or by fine not exceeding ten thousand dollars ($10,000), or by both such fine and imprisonment. Just buy what you need, when you need. Easier that way. |
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Especially since a felony will require you forfeit your rights to keep and bear arms.
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That is why the lower mass limit on black powder. The shock wave generated by detonating explosives is very damaging. The hard drive in my head can't recall the conditions under which one can detonate black powder though. |
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What's the penal code that shows it's a felony to have more then 20lbs of smokeless powder? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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For shipping purposes, smokeless powder is a "flammable solid", NOT an explosive.
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What's that old saying? "You can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride". I suppose it's possible to beat the felony powder charges seeing as we don't even know what the PC is. But, in the end, how much will it cost? |
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And if you kept it in a barn, shed, detached garage or anything other than a residence?
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Just store powder like previously mentioned. In little brass containers topped with lead caps. There's NO limits on ammo or primers. It's not worth taking the risk knowing the state will throw the book at you if given the chance. Division 11 http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/ca...odesection=hsc |
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That looks like it is worded in the language of the Penal Code.
Health and safety code: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/di...le=12400-12401 But gun powder is NOT an explosive. Maybe Black powder is, but not gunpowder. So I think someone interpreted it wrong. No spreading FUD! OMG! I just got a brilliant idea! WHAT if you purchased brass containers that looked like artillary shells with screw on tops and .500 caliber spouts with lead caps? Then just dump your powder into those, label them and you have your storage taken care of... Hey you just reloaded a very long range .500 caliber...
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I just counted my powder , OOPS
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Yeah no ****, I gotta talk to two more neighbors tomorrow to prepare for the next shipment.
Plus I gotta go back to Depot and get some more plywood for the powder cabinets...
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12000. For the purposes of this part, "explosives" means any substance, or combination of substances, the primary or common purpose of which is detonation or rapid combustion, and which is capable of a relatively instantaneous or rapid release of gas and heat, or any substance, the primary purpose of which, when combined with others, is to form a substance capable of a relatively instantaneous or rapid release of gas and heat. "Explosives" includes, but is not limited to, any explosives as defined in Section 841 of Title 18 of the United States Code and published pursuant to Section 555.23 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, and any of the following: (a) Dynamite, nitroglycerine, picric acid, lead azide, fulminate of mercury, black powder, smokeless powder, propellant explosives, detonating primers, blasting caps, or commercial boosters. |
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...entencing.html
Sounds like just your average Calgunner to me...
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There is a seller in private ammo/ reloading on here from Ventura selling large quantites of powder and primers ftf. has at lest 50 -75 pounds up for sale all the time.
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Eh comrade?
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Smokeless gun powder is NOT shock sensitive and it should not be on that list. We should toss this onto the pile the the lawyers need to take care of. Okay, I will sit down for the rest of this argument. (Until my lawyer tells me other...) And by looking at the above, I just realized that what it is saying that nobody can have gunpowder... So clearly there is an exemption for it elsewhere OR this is just another old code that needs revising that never got it and because of this mess when someone gets popped they WILL get into a lot of unnecessary trouble and possibly ruin their livelyhood over it.
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The only thing to report is a commercial ongoing sale in a private forum. Since he sells at gunshows all the time as well as on here. Take the komrade comment and shove it.
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