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Shot Grouping to the left / Training Suggestions?
I'm still a relatively new shooter (Lifetime round count probably around 1K - started 3 months ago). I've been consistently shooting left, slightly down. Looking at some of the forum threads, it suggests i'm shooting w/ too little trigger finger - not sure what that means. I can get a 2" group at about 15 yards. This has been happening on my SR22, P229 and 1911 9mm. Been shooting with 115 GR Federal Bulk. Any suggestions?
Anyone recommend good training courses in the Sac area? I'd like to improve my accuracy. Thanks guys!! |
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use google...pistol correction chart...
may be it will help for what wrong
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2" groups at 15 yards is nothing to sneeze at! That's very good work even for veteran shooters. So, keep it up!
As far as your shots going left and slightly down, check the shots while shooting on a bag. This should help to see where your gun shoots relative to point of aim. Then, when you're still shooting left and low, you can compare how much. To me, it might be the trigger finger like you said. See about adjusting your grip so you can get a little more trigger finger on it and see how that works out for you. Post pics of your targets and I'm sure much more experienced shooters will chime in. Happy shooting and be safe!
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You are more than likely over-gripping it.
Hold it like a raw egg. Don't drop it - Don't crush it. It will NOT fly out of your hand. Then, practice trigger control by dry-firing... lots, till you can dry-fire it aimed at a spot w/o twitching or wiggling the Bbl. Then go out and shoot it. (and then practice dry-firing again... some more... lots...) |
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This was me and my 1911 during our first time out together...
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I had the same problem, turns out I was over-gripping . Like Red Devil said: hold it like a raw egg.
Here's a video that helped me out as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVhTA-n0ivE |
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DO NOT hold it like a raw egg!
Grip the SH%T out of it. More than likely your reaction hand is pulling back therefore pulling your shots. try torquing your reaction hand slightly forward and inward. Unless your bullseye shooting you want as much grip on the gun as possible. Google Bob Vogel grip and read up on that. Bet you anything your reaction hand is the culprit
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I can HIGHLY reccomend Tactical Firearms Training Team which is offering its "Tactial Handgun Level 1 and 2 this next weekend in Sacramento.
www.TFTT.com FEB 02 Tactical Pistol 1 Sacramento, CA FEB 03 Tactical Pistol 2 Sacramento, CA Last edited by Ronin2; 01-28-2013 at 1:23 PM.. |
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Could be a flinch and/or your middle,index and pinky are gripping the gun harder in anticipation of the recoil which moves your sights. Easy way to test it is to do a ball and dummy drill. Get some dummy rounds and load 2-3 mags randomly with live ammo and dummy rounds. Put them in your pocket and mix them around then shoot all three mags. You'll see if you have a flinch or not right away.
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So if you over-grip it... you hit foul balls below third base?
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Have a friend load a few snapcaps/dummy rounds in random magazines then shoot normally. You will see all of your bad habits when you pull the trigger and the gun doesn't go bang. |
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Maybe the OP should contact local shooting ranges for more remedial beginners instruction classes. |
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Please don't change the sights until your shoot gets better and don't take the shooting chart too seriously...it is geared towards one handed shooting
If you are interested, drop me a PM and I'll take a quick look at your grip and trigger press. No charge for the checkup, I just hate to see someone start out building bad shooting habits... you can pick up the range fees...if you'd like additional instruction, we can talk about it afterwards
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I was having the same problem. My instructor suggested this was my issue, and was able to show me what exactly I was doing.
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* Q – Can I bring out my M4 or AK to California for your classes? * A – Absolutely. The California “Assault Weapons” ban only applies to California residents. If you are coming out for a sanctioned Training or Competition Event you will have no issues. To be safe, you may want to print off the Course Description from the TFTT web site and have that with you as an added documentation. No issues ???
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Trigger control will help you overcome this. Squeeze the trigger slowly. The shot timing should come as a surprise to you. Dry fire practice is cheap. Do a lot of it and make sure your gun and front sight don't move at all when you're dry firing.
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check your stance, maybe you are muscling it. adjust your stance a little to the right, lift the firearm, (unloaded), sight it, close your eyes, take a couple of breaths, relax. open your eyes, see where your sights have drifted to, adjust stance accordingly
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