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I have read so many reviews about base mounts and rings that my head is spinning and I am getting into analysis paralysis.
I just bought a Remington 700 LTR in .223 because I sold an unfired one nearly a decade ago, and I figured it is time to add one back into the collection. I know if money is no object you can get an awesome setup, but there is obviously a point of diminishing returns. After looking at multiple reviews the DNZ single piece 30mm seems intriguing and it appeals to my sensibilty because of the single piece rigidity. I do not recollect if it has a recoil lug. I will be mounting a Leupold Var X III 6.5x20x50 LR mil-dot with AO and a Premier mil dot reticle. If I get the DNZ, what height would I need for the 50 mm objective to clear the barrel (with Butler Creek flip ups)? How is the fit, finish, and tolerances when mounted on a Remington receiver? If I go with a one piece base and rings, what would you guys suggest outside the usual suspects such as Seekins or Badger? Would you get a 20 MOA base for a .223 with a 20 inch barrel or is that overkill? Thanks in advance for your opinions and insights. |
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i have a medium DNZ on my savage with a 40mm nikon buckmasters with butler creek caps and there is about 1/4 inch of space still maybe just a tadd less. Give them a call and see what they say. They will know for sure what height will be needed.
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Rough numbers without checking my book, my 69gr .223 load at ~3050fps drops below Mach 1 (generally when accuracy starts going south quickly) at ~800yds. I would be dialing in just under 30 MOA at that distance. The total elevation in the scope is ~90 MOA. So a 20 MOA base seems like over kill.
FYI: I don't run an elevated base on my 6.5x284 which was build for longer distances. |
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Thanks for the feedback. I am getting a headache reading all of the reviews deciding what type of mounts I am going to use on my LTR. I shoot from a bench at the range but I like the look and tacticool element of certain offerings like the TPS rings and base.
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I have heard that talleys are good, but i have not used them due to my happiness with DNZ. They may be better but i dont see how. I will not settle for anything but one piece setups for sheer rigidity.
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Rings: Burris signature series. THey have little eccentrics and concentrics you can put in them to correct for range. I have them.. super handy for dialing in 5-40MOA in just the rings. If you need to drop in some range, that's a fairly inexpensive way of doing it and when you're done you can drop in concentric liners for more modest ranges. I used them so I could get my scope close to bottomed out with a 100yrd dial-in and give myself plenty of up in the turret.
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Does the one piece setup impact access to you ability to load ammo? The Engineer side of me loves the design of the DNZ mount.
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no, there is a cutout on the bottom that allows for nearly full chamber access to throw a shell in by hand if needed.
here is a pic to describe it. http://www.treeclimber.com/reloads/Cobalt11.jpg |
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Thanks for the picture, that is a nice looking rig. I am heavily leaning towards the DNZ. I want an accurate, simple, and strong mount for mostly bench shooting. I just wonder why some people seem to snub the DNZ and only consider Badger or more expensive mounts.
I read one review where someone liked the DNZ and used it with a Nightforce. If the DNZ will cost me accuracy I am willing to look at other options. I have not been into shooting for awhile but it seemed like the Leupold Mark 4 was the cat's meow when I used to be heavily into shooting a decade ago. Now the Mark 4 base seems like it will limit my ring options because it is Weaver style and not true 1913 picatinny. |
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I dont see how the dnz will cost you accuracy, in my opinion any picatinny style mount has more ability to shift in the event of a drop, and screw up accuracy. A dab of blue locktite on the reciever screws and the dnz doesnt move. or at least mine hasnt.
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Sorry I'm late to this post, I am not familiar with the DNZ but I am familiar with TPS products and these are the Rings and Base lots of LE Agencies are using, get the steel ones, fairly reasonably affordable compared to leupold, nightforce and USO.
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20moa on the base would be a good way to go and as for the rings for a 50mm you could go as low as 0.823" but just to stay safe 0.885" center height.
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Nobody had the TPS bases in stock so I ended up deciding to try the DNZ one piece mount. A 20 MOA slope may be overkill for a .223 with a 20 inch barrel since accuracy drops off when the 20 MOA distance kicks in.
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I have removed my nikon buckmasters from my dnz rings on my savage .243 and it did not leave a single mark. And the cap bolts were torqued to 25in lb. and also the rings were right out of the box. They did not need to be lapped.
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Thanks, that is awesome news. Is 25 pounds the recommended torque for both the ring caps and base?
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Yes, the box recommends 22-25 in. lb for caps and base screws. They say no locktite needed but I put a small dab on the base screws but not the cap screws.
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I received the mount and it looks great. I did not have a chance to try it out before I left on vacation for 1 1/2 weeks. Now that I am back I plan to mount a scope and try my new toy at the range. I will reply on this thread after I try it out.
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I got my scope mounted yesterday and I went out to the range today to try it out. I was very happy with the quality and fit and finish of the mount. I snapped some photos and also included some pictures of my best 5-shot groups from 100 yards.
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