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Old 11-16-2018, 7:48 AM
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I'm ready to buy a Springfield Armory 1911 Mil Spec and I'm having trouble picking between the SS version or the Parkerized. I really like the look of the SS but I've been told they easily scratch. The flat side of the slide is machined and somewhat polished but the frame and rounded surfaces are bead blasted. It wouldn't get any rough use, mostly range shooting and home protection but I'd be pissed if it quickly got scratched up from normal handling. Question is can the bead blasted surfaces be easily restored if scratched up?
If not I'll get the parkerized. I've read that this surface is very durable.
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I would go parkerized. I have seen a stainless come out of the box with a scratch on it.

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I would get Parkerized forged steel, the correct material for a M1911

I dont think stainless is made like the originals, they arent even forged?

for an old design like the M1911, forged steel is the way to go with blued or parkerized finish.
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I've got both. The SS does scratch but it is easier to touch up an SS gun with a Scotch brite pad. If it were for carry I'd say SS; not for carry, whichever you prefer.

Also, my SS loaded tends to rust in internal machined channels - probably small embedded particles of tool steel left over from manufacturing.
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I'd get the parkerized one. When it wears off, you can get it Cerakoted.
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Get the parkerized, stainless on a 1911 is like cheating - just not right!
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I am thinking I might get one of those myself. I want the SS, as others have said you can use a scotch brite pad to touch up to a nice brushed stainless look. That and it will allow me to due mods to the sun without having to get it refinished.
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Old 11-16-2018, 10:49 AM
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Pacmule - Sportsman Warehouse has them on sale right now for $549. $599 for stainless. Most stores are sold out with no guarantee they will get one. Its not the model 1911 I want but the deal is hard to pass up if I can find one.
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SS 1911s scratch if you look at them wrong. I had a Dan Wesson PM9 for awhile. Beautiful gun, as long as you didn’t touch it or shoot it.

Matte SS is even worse and damn near impossible to do spot touch ups on. I have a parkerized 1911 that I bought 30 years ago and it still looks great. Every mark enhances a parkerized gun.
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It's a time for change, if you already got couple 'Blue', couple 'DFE', now is the time to get SS. Otherwise get the parkerized.
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Parkerized. It is the proper look for a 1911. Stainless is nice. My first pistol was a SS Loaded 1911. Fantastic gun. But, it was just so...SHINY! I longed for a black/blued/parked 1911. My current is a blued Les Baer. Awesome 1911 and the way they wear is intoxicating.

Parkerized finishes feel really rough at first. Keep it oiled and use it and it should smooth out. They look great and are tough.
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Unless you're a pimp, go with park.
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I have a couple in Stainless and a couple with both stainless and carbon steel parts that were coated/finished via different methods.

I still like stainless due to how easy it would be to "refinish" if I needed it.

These are stainless. Both are bead blasted. If I need to "refinish" I just need to bead blast the part. Done.




These have a mix of parts (like stainles slide and carbon frame, for example)

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Melonite (nitriding)


Cerakote


And these are parked




I guess my point is this... With Stainless you can have it in-the-white, or not. With parked, or rustable, gotta have it finished.

All the above guns have been shot quite a bit. Most of the scratches are at the bottom of the magwell.
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Stainless all the way. Much more forgiving finish wise and easier to clean.



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SS for sure
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SS...both of mine...love the clean look...
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I like the wood handles on a parkerize 1911.

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Parkerized. It is the proper look for a 1911.

Especially the GI model.
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I have a couple in Stainless and a couple with both stainless and carbon steel parts that were coated/finished via different methods.

I still like stainless due to how easy it would be to "refinish" if I needed it.

These are stainless. Both are bead blasted. If I need to "refinish" I just need to bead blast the part. Done.




These have a mix of parts (like stainles slide and carbon frame, for example)

IonBond DLC


Melonite (nitriding)


Cerakote


And these are parked




I guess my point is this... With Stainless you can have it in-the-white, or not. With parked, or rustable, gotta have it finished.

All the above guns have been shot quite a bit. Most of the scratches are at the bottom of the magwell.
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Unless you're a pimp, go with park.
Oh man, this grips looks good on my 1911 Springfield Armory Loaded 9mm Stainless Steel.

BTW, you can call me Pimp or whatever, just don't call me Libtard


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I've really gotten back into 1911 pistols over the last couple of years. I now have seven:
  1. SA Mil Spec Parkerized (1995)
  2. SA Mil Spec Parkerized (2016)
  3. Colt Combat Commander Blue (2016)
  4. SA Loaded Parkerized (2017)
  5. SA Mil Spec Stainless (2017)
  6. Dan Wesson CBOB Stainless (2018)
  7. Dan Wesson PM7 Stainless (2018)
Each finish has it pros and cons. While it does not seem that a Parkerized pistol scratches easily, once scratched it sure shows up. On the other hand, while polished stainless seems to acquire light scratches fairly easily, they don't seem to bother me much. Of course, stainless does not suffer from the "thinning" the will eventually show up on blued and Parkerized pistols.

If getting some wear on your pistols is a concern, it seems there are two choices available, handle them carefully or turn them into safe queens.

All that said, I will admit as a 67 year old guy who fired his first 1911 about 50 years ago, a Parkerized 1911 still "speaks to me."
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Cerakoted stainless steel.
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I have a couple in Stainless and a couple with both stainless and carbon steel parts that were coated/finished via different methods.

I still like stainless due to how easy it would be to "refinish" if I needed it.

These are stainless. Both are bead blasted. If I need to "refinish" I just need to bead blast the part. Done.




These have a mix of parts (like stainles slide and carbon frame, for example)

IonBond DLC


Melonite (nitriding)


Cerakote


And these are parked




I guess my point is this... With Stainless you can have it in-the-white, or not. With parked, or rustable, gotta have it finished.

All the above guns have been shot quite a bit. Most of the scratches are at the bottom of the magwell.
4th one down from the top....What is that? That gun is absolutely beautiful. I thought I wanted stainless but not after seeing this one.
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4th one down from the top....What is that? That gun is absolutely beautiful. I thought I wanted stainless but not after seeing this one.
That is the "melonite" finish. I said Nitriding, but it is specifically Nitrocarburizing. I had mine done by Burlington Engineering. The finish has a few different names.

During the process the parts get surface hardened as well. No springs (including extractor) should be subjected to the process. Parts will grow by about .0004" all around so that can add up on really tight fitted guns.

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SS. since I’ve only seen the preferable NM frames in stainless but a lot of GIs are N frame.
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SS. since I’ve only seen the preferable NM frames in stainless but a lot of GIs are N frame.

My Park'd Loaded made 6 or 7 years ago is a NM prefix frame... [Edit: as is my Loaded MC Operator]

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I prefer to get black guns because then it’s harder for my wife to figure out how many guns I have.
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That's what I did. Parked Mil Spec, SS 9 mm.
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I like a black or any dark finish, but I have seen pleny of guns with parkerized finish that have a rough surface. Looks cheap. That I do not like.
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I like a black or any dark finish, but I have seen pleny of guns with parkerized finish that have a rough surface. Looks cheap. That I do not like.
That's my first impression of parkerized guns too. But, after some handling, the finish wears smooth. Keeping it oiled helps too. Then, they age quite nicely. Not as nicely as blued guns, but still nice.
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If you are worrying about scratches, put it a display case and stare at it.
If it would be used in self defense in a low light situation you may not want the glint of a stainless gun although that fear is the least of the problems that would be of concern in that situation.

It's a gun, not a runway model. Get a leather holster or a kydex with leather lining. If it gets scratched, big deal. If you wear off a parkerized finish, good for you, you are using it.

But if you get something with intricate scrolling and the face of Elvis etched into the frame, by all means, put it in a case and drool over it.
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I agree and disagree. Yeah, it's a gun, it'll get scratches but who cares, it's a gun!

However it's also a, what, $700 item? Imagine a $700 watch or a $700 painting ... you want those to stay pristine!

Personally though, I'm on the side of; Yeah, OK, it's expensive, but ... it's a gun. If you want an investment, buy mutual funds. If you want something shiny to impress friends with, get a nice watch or big screen TV. If you want something to defend your family with, then get a gun.



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If you are worrying about scratches, put it a display case and stare at it.
If it would be used in self defense in a low light situation you may not want the glint of a stainless gun although that fear is the least of the problems that would be of concern in that situation.

It's a gun, not a runway model. Get a leather holster or a kydex with leather lining. If it gets scratched, big deal. If you wear off a parkerized finish, good for you, you are using it.

But if you get something with intricate scrolling and the face of Elvis etched into the frame, by all means, put it in a case and drool over it.
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Well, its not "mil spec" if its not parked, is it?
Mine's parkerized and has the NM prefix. A parked finish can scratch just like SS but they're just character marks
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