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Old 12-12-2017, 12:44 AM
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Ah.. what is your experience in these matters??
It sounds like he doesn't have any or he's the "broker/agent that sucks that sucks at his job".
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What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?
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Old 12-12-2017, 1:45 PM
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Get off your pulpit. I didnt even know about the go fund me, and the issue has nothing to do with it.

My concern is that you are attempting to speak with authority, and others might take from that that it is “probable” that they are fully insured for business interruption, and dont stand to lose a penny here.

That is not likely to be the case in my experience.

Its not contentious BS, got any other self serving proclamations to make?
Still waiting to hear your professional background, education and experience in these matters.....to be able to proclaim others opinions as contentious BS / self serving proclamations. Im not saying you are right or wrong.. just wondering what your "creds" in the area are.....
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Old 12-12-2017, 1:47 PM
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Ah..So what is your professional background and experience in these matters??
Twenty years of representing small businesses after losses.

Your move.
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Old 12-12-2017, 1:48 PM
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It sounds like he doesn't have any or he's the "broker/agent that sucks that sucks at his job".
Wrong.

Not a broker agent, but an attorney who handles their screwups.

Hereís your plate of crow.
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Still waiting to hear your professional background, education and experience in these matters.....to be able to proclaim others opinions as contentious BS / self serving proclamations. Im not saying you are right or wrong.. just wondering what your "greds" in the area are.....
See above, I was away for a bit.
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Twenty years of representing small businesses after losses.

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Wrong.

Not a broker agent, but an attorney who handles their screwups.

Here’s your plate of crow.


THANK YOU.. that explains so much and puts the totality of your commentary in this forum into perspective...
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THANK YOU.. that explains so much and puts the totality of your commentary in this forum into perspective...
Whatever. Itís how I pay the bills.
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Old 12-12-2017, 5:54 PM
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And regarding the GoFundMe page... we finally have full disclosure. This was posted on the page today:

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First I would like to thank all those who have donated, and emails and phone calls of people offering to help clean up. Your support has been amazing. We are working on putting it back together daily. I would like everyone to know exactly how the funds will be distributed out. I will be withdrawing the funds on behalf of the range. Each employee will get a percentage of the funds based off of their last pay period. We will be either mailing these payments out or personally handing them out. Once again on behalf of the entire staff at Angeles Shooting Ranges we thank you and hope to see you soon.
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Old 12-12-2017, 6:22 PM
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Wrong.

Not a broker agent, but an attorney who handles their screwups.

Hereís your plate of crow.
Buuurn!
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Old 12-12-2017, 9:54 PM
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And regarding the GoFundMe page... we finally have full disclosure. This was posted on the page today:

Posted by Alex Alcalde ASR Management
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First I would like to thank all those who have donated, and emails and phone calls of people offering to help clean up. Your support has been amazing. We are working on putting it back together daily. I would like everyone to know exactly how the funds will be distributed out. I will be withdrawing the funds on behalf of the range. Each employee will get a percentage of the funds based off of their last pay period. We will be either mailing these payments out or personally handing them out. Once again on behalf of the entire staff at Angeles Shooting Ranges we thank you and hope to see you soon.
Not a bad little score. But they want 62-250k, haha. I like how based off last pay period, insures the manager will get a bigger slice of the pie. Is this money considered taxable income?
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Old 12-12-2017, 10:41 PM
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Not a bad little score. But they want 62-250k, haha. I like how based off last pay period, insures the manager will get a bigger slice of the pie. Is this money considered taxable income?
Good question, I have no idea...
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3 posts over the course of 4 years - and this rambling wreck of mass wordage is it? Hmmm.

I wanted to comment because the range I frequent the most burned down.
Thanks for reading.
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Old 12-13-2017, 2:44 PM
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Not a bad little score. But they want 62-250k, haha. I like how based off last pay period, insures the manager will get a bigger slice of the pie. Is this money considered taxable income?
The tax forms call for you to declare all income, including embezzled money, IIRC.

All income, basically, is taxable in this nation.
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Old 12-14-2017, 4:34 AM
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The tax forms call for you to declare all income, including embezzled money, IIRC.

All income, basically, is taxable in this nation.
And I'm so sure all of it will be legally reported and tax paid. Some sucker gave $500. Multiple marks got taken for $300. I'm in the wrong business!

They must be pissed that Moore and Moore raised $75000 and they only managed $7000. Well at least the ringleader gets a bigger cut.
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Old 12-14-2017, 8:16 AM
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They must be pissed that Moore and Moore raised $75000 and they only managed $7000. Well at least the ringleader gets a bigger cut.
I am sure they are blaming us for some of that failure! I just hate to see anyone taken advantage of and the way that was originally presented...it was a bait and switch scam IMHO.
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