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I've been following that, and I'm not sure what to think. There is so much strange tv footage that one can't rationally explain. I'm not saying that a mass shooting can be rationally explained, but after living for almost 34 years, and having a college degree at a major University... I'm not dumb. Arrogant yes, stubborn yes, but not dumb or ignorant.
Maybe they authorized actors because the families were too distraught to appear on camera. Maybe the gov staged it. Maybe the gov did it. Maybe it was as it happened. How are you going the convince anyone who is set on their ways. You need to have clear indisputable evidence that the masses will accept as true. Just because the evidence is out there doesn't mean that anyone will listen or care either. So frustrating. It would take hacking groups like anonymous at this point to help show the government had anything to do with it. Btw I have 2 crosman 22xx air rifles. Both are 10 shot magazine with hpa and can be filled to 1800psi from a scuba tank. One shoots .22 pellets at 800fps, the other 1000-1200fps. Are they going to require my magazine is less then 10 shots and I can't fill up past 200 psi air now because the kid from El Dorado Hills, CA [http://www.news10.net/rss/article/16...ilar-tragedies] was accidentally shot with a pump air rifle? Maybe they outlaw all bb guns that aren't airsoft for now... until someone loses an eye from an orange pellet. |
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The original video was put together by a far right wing, that's a little too happy to show evidence, versus stay rational and try to convince the middle to slightly lefts that the government was capable of staging a "false flag" operation. There is a lot of video of the government providing false information and proven wrong. There's time lines that are off by an hour. There's pictures of all emergency vehicles being "trapped on set". There's tweets from unknowing reporters on "set" before Adam Lanza even fired the first shot. There's pictures of the victims with Obama, after the shooting occurred. Try to look at what's out there and be open minded. It's easy and hard to explain it both ways.
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I can't say the thought had not crossed my mind (when each of the recent events took place) - that it could be staged or set-up... but I can't fathom it really... I'm not one to buy into the idea that we didn't land on the moon (and we know there are many conspiracy theorists that have "evidence" that we didn't). I'll have a look at the vid when I can devote 30 minutes to it... it will be hard not to be skeptical though.
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My biggest fear as well.
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Well, three pages of posts and nothing from the OP to defend his stance. Sadly a naive youngster.
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Ordering the BATF and the FBI (NICS) to engage in "work stoppage" is another possibility, in order to create as much Soviet-style red tape as possible, delaying things weeks, months, or even years for transactions. Quote:
I imagine this is what will happen: Feinswine's bill will be readied, and then put on standby. Then, another engineered "lone gunman" attack - or two - will be made to occur, and quickly thereafter, the votes in the Senate & House will be scheduled. Even RINOs will vote for it. This is how the USA PATRIOT [sic] Act was rammed through (it was readied for 9/11, and then imposed shortly thereafter). |
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I think it's the pre-ban ones. Key words "does not have a fixed magazine".
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Yeah New York just proved if a Federal AWB isn't going to happen, CA may push something through like just happened in NY a few hours ago.
New York just made a large number of semi-automatic handguns "assault weapons" and made any magazine more than 10 rounds illegal in a year. And with those 10 rounders you are only supposed to have a maximum of 7 rounds in them... figure that one out. During the debate, Greg Ball called the whole scheme for what it is... doing nothing to address crime and a stunt for Cuomo for his 2016 presidential bid. It's not over yet. |
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they make it seem that it is difficult to acquire illegal weapons...
true it cost a bit more to get it and using the armory is a little frightning because you dont know how really is on the other end of the vpn/tor/ssh connection. I remember when my dad used to take me to light em up creek to shoot guns by the I15 in san bernardino. untill one guy came with an auto shotty and put slugs on our truck. never came back since then. |
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If their job is to uphold and defend the Constitution...shouldn't they ALL be 2A defenders? I know...just sayin'.
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now they decide, hmmm... no one is buying 10 round mags, let's change that
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I talked to a guy today who in his words "escaped from a communist country". He said that the current "gun control", bans, etc are all too familiar to the communist country he grew up in. Where he grew up, people were allowed one muzzle loaded weapon. When the government has unlimited firepower, what chance do you have with one shot?
It's the fact that more and more bans or restrictions are being input in place. So this year they take "x,y, and z" from us. Next year, what will it be? Keep moving it forward and soon we could end up with a single shot .22 pistol. Just make me wonder when somebody has lived it sees it happening here on our soil!! |
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From what I have read yes you will have to register it if it does pass. (c) Any person who, between January 1, 2001 and January 1, 2014, lawfully possessed an assault weapon that does not have a fixed magazine, as defined in section 30515 and including those weapons with an ammunition feeding device that can be removed readily from the firearm with the use of a tool, shall register the firearm by July 1, 2014, with the department pursuant to those procedures that the department may establish. |
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Probably aimed at the OP for making an A@@ out of himself.
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Unfortunately, 98% of Americans don't even know what an "assault weapon" is.
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"So now that talks of the AWB not happening, I sit back and laugh at all the people who overpaid in a panic.. people are such sheep"
Really? 1- we don't know what type of bans are in the works in state and federal level. look at New York. 2- I think we are in the same boat no matter how much we paid for stuff or when we bought them. Stick together and stand up for your rights. |
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I wonder how many people will sell their rifles to Mexican drug cartels if this passes in California instead of registering it? If a cartel will pay $10,000 cash for a AR or AK, and California is basically making it impossible to own one, the biggest winners in all this will be criminals in another country. Diane Fienstien did not think (care?) about the unintended consequences of disarming her own citizens did she?
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http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...214040530.html With the super-majority in both chambers in Sacramento, the democrats can just pass any gun laws they want and you're **cked. Any gun bans is bad news regardless at the national or state level, so we need to fight back. As long as there is a super-majority in both chambers in Sacramento, you are never out of the woods. I wouldn't be laughing if I were you as long as you're living in this state. |
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