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Old 12-07-2012, 4:27 PM
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Folks,

So I know this is frustrating. I just managed to pick up my gun and I sat down with the new management and a couple things came out of that conversation.

1) The new management has no plans on running off with your money or your guns
2) They were not aware of this post and the frustrated people on here and I have made them aware of it
3) They've already called quite a few people to schedule pick up times (and some of you have already picked up your items from what I can tell) as well refunded customers of they're funds.
4) The Valkyrie team took all the SSE barrels with them when they left and this is the reason all the SSE transactions need to handled through a SSE capable store (Metal Dog Tactical)
5) I have verified at least some of what gun4hire has said in his post and it makes sense when you consider all the SSE barrels are gone as well

I'm helping the new management resolve this for you as fast as possible.

What I need from you if you're a customer that still has a pending order.
Please PM me with the following info
1) First Name (i don't need your last)
2) contact info
3) Make and model of the firearm that you've ordered

Since I'm now in direct contact with the new management I will be sitting down with the new management and compiling a list of people that they need to contact to resolve their issues.

Since some of you are coming from far away for the pick up, I'm also having them set up a new e-mail address that is for pick up scheduling only and will update the thread when that is done.

As well as taking the SSE barrels the old management has the account login for the webpage and the new management has not been able to post and update to the webpage to explain the closure (in-spite of the rumors, they have not lost their FFL and they are not currently being audited by the ATF)

As a member of the calguns family (and someone who was equally as frustrated waiting for my gun) I'll do my best to help ease the communication with the new Management.

Please PM me with your info or other questions, and hopefully we can all get out to the range ASAP.
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Old 12-07-2012, 4:59 PM
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Appreciate the info Valkyrie. It was hard to imagine that the shop (and employees/owners) we all once knew in Milpitas turned into what is now the Santa Clara store.

Maybe somewhere down the road Tim and the original team can setup shop again and provide this area with the gun store we once had.
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Old 12-07-2012, 5:41 PM
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5) I have verified at least some of what gun4hire has said in his post
Honestly I wouldn't associate yourself with him if I were you..his post smells like sour grapes of someone from the store trying to discredit the other post. Who knows what's true, but I'm willing to bet that most people flat out don't care. They care about getting their money and/or guns back and how the new store handles that will decide if people wish to continue doing business with them in the future.

So why does gun4hire's post reek? Because he claimed that money was owed and someone took all the weapons in the store. Well anyone who's been in the store regularly over the past 6+ months has noticed the inventory progressively drop week after week. There hasn't been inventory in the store for more than a month. Saying someone came in to take the firearm inventory when there has been precious little to begin with just stretches credibility and frankly associating with it can damage yours.

But really no one cares, they just want their stuff back. If you're officially associated with the new/old owner then great own up to it. But if not it actually looks bad that you have to settle this and not them. If you're friends with the owner tell them that they should be the ones on here taking lead not you.

Customer service is king, having someone else take care of your issues instead of you doesn't look good. Also having a 'He said, She said' fight on the internet about what may or may not have happened also doesn't look good. It's not going to win back customers and is more likely to lose future ones.

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Old 12-07-2012, 6:13 PM
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Folks,

So I know this is frustrating. I just managed to pick up my gun and I sat down with the new management and a couple things came out of that conversation.

1) The new management has no plans on running off with your money or your guns
2) They were not aware of this post and the frustrated people on here and I have made them aware of it
3) They've already called quite a few people to schedule pick up times (and some of you have already picked up your items from what I can tell) as well refunded customers of they're funds.
4) The Valkyrie team took all the SSE barrels with them when they left and this is the reason all the SSE transactions need to handled through a SSE capable store (Metal Dog Tactical)
5) I have verified at least some of what gun4hire has said in his post and it makes sense when you consider all the SSE barrels are gone as well

I'm helping the new management resolve this for you as fast as possible.

What I need from you if you're a customer that still has a pending order.
Please PM me with the following info
1) First Name (i don't need your last)
2) contact info
3) Make and model of the firearm that you've ordered

Since I'm now in direct contact with the new management I will be sitting down with the new management and compiling a list of people that they need to contact to resolve their issues.

Since some of you are coming from far away for the pick up, I'm also having them set up a new e-mail address that is for pick up scheduling only and will update the thread when that is done.

As well as taking the SSE barrels the old management has the account login for the webpage and the new management has not been able to post and update to the webpage to explain the closure (in-spite of the rumors, they have not lost their FFL and they are not currently being audited by the ATF)

As a member of the calguns family (and someone who was equally as frustrated waiting for my gun) I'll do my best to help ease the communication with the new Management.

Please PM me with your info or other questions, and hopefully we can all get out to the range ASAP.
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Tell them to clean their own dirty Landry.

Too many BS posts about this store. I told them about this site right after it all started, so I don't know how they can say they didn't know. They have handled everything poorly from the start. The closing, getting info to customers, being there for pick ups. Calls or lack there of to all of us. I for one will never give my business to them again even if they change the name when opened in the future.

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Old 12-07-2012, 6:30 PM
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They've had mine since 11/21 - I win?? :-( I was told my DROS has now been cancelled and they're waiting for confirmation of the cancel before delivering to Metal Dog Tactical.

I suggest emailing them where you want to send it to finish SSE, if that is what your waiting for. I didn't get a reply until I told them where to send it. If its just a pick up, you should be able to go get it.
I told them where to send it, gave them the phone number, the hours of operation for the FFL, the owner of the FFL and NOTHING!! Not even a call saying "hey I found your gun, I just need to call the FFL" All he told me was be patient. I've been patient since 11/26. I emailed several times since then with all the information he would need to track down my pistol (serial, UPS tracking, who signed for it etc). I don't know what else he needs other than to look for it on the shelf, call the FFL, and pack it in a box.
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Old 12-07-2012, 6:35 PM
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What I need from you if you're a customer that still has a pending order.
Please PM me with the following info
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2) contact info
3) Make and model of the firearm that you've ordered
Who EXACTLY are you that people should be sending you private information?
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Old 12-07-2012, 6:38 PM
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Who EXACTLY are you that people should be sending you private information?
^ditto......
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Old 12-07-2012, 6:51 PM
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If it were me I wouldnt send anyone my info but VA... Or the Email htat is to Va that everyone has been getting contacted from..
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Old 12-07-2012, 6:58 PM
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A first name, and a phone number, and and what ordered is not so private. But to each his own
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Old 12-07-2012, 7:36 PM
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well im thinking

he would know your name and the gun you ordered then go into the store and cry wolf about how he paid for the gun and such and get a refund...but then you would Need ID and stuff

so i too dont know whats so private about A first name
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Old 12-07-2012, 7:46 PM
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On a side note, who has actually seen the money from the refund yet?
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Old 12-07-2012, 8:14 PM
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On a side note, who has actually seen the money from the refund yet?
No one I know. :-(
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Old 12-07-2012, 9:59 PM
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Old 12-08-2012, 1:07 AM
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Wow.. please guys start connecting the dots..

The business imploded.. The original brick layers are probably unable to speak at the moment.. While the "owner" is in here trying to do damage control...


Seriously look at these posts! all the new posers within the last week?... lol..

I apologize if your an exception but they all sound like this jaminator who keeps sending me "emails" about viagra, local desperate cougars and being mugged in Taiwan needing me to wire him $3k..



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I was told that Naveed Anwar is the silent partner of VA and he's the one that's trying to "clean things up". I finally got to meet Paul and he was very helpful with my refund.

Thanks for you help Paul if you see this.
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I agree, the auditor Paul seems like a good guy and is trying to make things right.

I was there tonight and was refunded for my DROS and SSE fees. He's handing off a 1911 I had shipped to them, over to Metal Dog Tactical this week. I then have to do the DROS again w/Metal Dog Tactical and they are going to do the SSE. My DROS was already submitted so first Paul has to figure out how to 'undo' that bit.

I'm happy to be making progress in the right direction but bummed I have to redo the wait for DROS again.

For those of you still in limbo, hang in there. Paul will get to you, poor guy got dumped a big 'ol mess to clean up but he's working through it.
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I just emailed tonight and received a reply within 30 minutes. I need to call tomorrow and see if the place I bought my gun from already shipped it and then figure things out.

Sad to see this happening, I hope they are able to work things out and come back strong. The employees have always been helpful and friendly when I was there.
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Thanks... i just got back from Valkerie Arms. This time.. I saw Paul there through the window helping someone else. I knocked on the window and he let me in. He said he was there earlier in the day (when I dropped by earlier), but he was in the back doing inventory. so you really need to knock... even if you don't see him there.

He was professional. really takes care of you. They're sending out all the SSEs. so you might have to drive out to Tracy / Fresno to get them done if you require it. (depends if shop is equipped to do your gun)

I didn't want to risk it... i just got my refund and I'll try to get it again later. Either through another shop... or whenever Valkerie re-opens. Or... just find a used gun.
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Paul finally called me. Was a biter sweet conversation. Happy he got a hold of me but didn't give me a definitive answer that my pistol was there. He saw the same type that he assumes was mines but needs to match the serial. Also had to re email him the ffl into I want the pistol shipped to. Hopefully he gets back to me soon with more answers and to tell me he's ready to ship it out. I want to be done with this
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You have to knock on the door or glass. Someone is in the back. I was there as well and left without knocking.
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Sorry for the back to back replies, I just got a call from the DOJ (I called them yesterday to get some information). Their systems are showing everything is in order as far as they can see with Valkyrie. The agent on the phone said there are 4 audits happening today in Valkyrie's location and he is going to track down the agents to verify if Valkyrie is one of them. He also suggested I call ATF to see if they have any records of an audit. He did make mention that they would "in the majority of cases" not shut down a business during their audits. It would have to be an extreme case/violation for them to do so. But he mentioned the ATF would. He's going to give me a call back and let me know what he finds out.
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va is doing the best they can if you have a gun waiting and passed dros, please email them at the supplied email and arrange to get your stuff. if you havent done dros and va has your stuff, also contact them and they will work with you to get your gear somewhere that can help you in the mean time. clearly someone in management did wrong, they are restructuring and redoing the business model, most likely with new staff. this in turn will not allow them to legally process or run dros. be patient, as this is a new beginning and all your older complaints have been heard. no atf and doj is not auditing the store from what i gathered. they are voluntarily shut down with private auditors to review all business trans and data for suture development in better function and customer service. i hope this thread helps anyone who needs the right info to get their stuff back, or have it sent elsewhere. fyi metal dog tactical is taking in everything as per va...they will handle all items that were sent to va for dros
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I just went to va and spoke with the employee auditer for a while. Great constant customer service. Please be kind. When i was there the phone didnt apot ringig with hate messages and he has thousand emails to go through. He gladly sent my stuff to metal dog tac at nocharge. The guy therebis a prev empkoyee and he is there withbhis auditer. I gathered prev management was ibvolved in something savory so they cut all enda and began a internal review and restructure. Valkyrie arma is not goig to dissapear. The guy was super nice and handled everythong profeshionaly. Sorryfor typos. Im mobime.
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Old 12-08-2012, 2:24 AM
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Sad to see that they are gone.

The Milpitas store was small, but it was full of great enthusiasm and great people who were the epitome of gun enthusiasts.



The new location on the Alameda feels like any other grouchy gun store......
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Old 12-08-2012, 6:21 AM
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Wow.. please guys start connecting the dots..

Seriously look at these posts! all the new posers within the last week?... lol..

I apologize if your an exception but they all sound like this jaminator who keeps sending me "emails" about viagra, local desperate cougars and being mugged in Taiwan needing me to wire him $3k..

Whatever man. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm just a guy trying to get my first firearm and apparently send it to the wrong place, at the wrong time. At this point I wish I had just bought something on the CA approved list, and I would have just picked it up, but the SSE throws a wrench in the pot.

I had only been on CGN a couple times before this ordeal, and got here mainly by google'ing VA Closed? to try and understand why they were locked up during business hours after my hour+ drive. This whole thing has been beyond frustrating, and I'm just trying to share my experience with others so we all might get our issues w/VA resolved.

If they do get on their feet again, there is no way I would ever do business w/them again. Period. I don't know them from Milpitas but my experience has been horrible from day 1. Shipped a 1911 to them for SSE, and had to chase them down to figure out if it arrived, that took 2 days and numerous phone calls. Then my first time to their shop to do the DROS was on 11/21 and there was a note on the door saying "back at 3:00 PM". At 4:30PM they guy finally showed up. I was already frustrated w/them, and the real BS hadn't even started.

Basically what I'm saying "Shooter5", is kiss my poser ***.

[QUOTE=shooter5;9861058]Have no interest in stirring the pot or jumping on the dog pile here.. [QUOTE] BS.
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Old 12-08-2012, 9:17 AM
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Can anyone verify if someone is at the shop today? Waited from 11-1230 and no one was there . drove 2.5 hrs to take a chance. I going to wait in the area. Report back if anyone gets in

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Was just at the store. No sign of anyone. Going to wait a little longer
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Was just at the store. No sign of anyone. Going to wait a little longer
Knock on the window for awhile, Paul is upstairs sometimes. Knock loud!
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Why would they close during an audit...
Clearly nobody here has done an ATF audit before.

It's a pretty big deal, it's easier to shutdown for a week.
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Clearly nobody here has done an ATF audit before.

It's a pretty big deal, it's easier to shutdown for a week.
It's not a ATF audit.
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Old 12-08-2012, 3:24 PM
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So I purposely only asked for first names to allow users to feel more comfortable.

I do not work or own valkyrie however I do know Paulo (who was not working for Valkyrie when all this happened but has been called by new management to come help) and the new management

These guys all have other jobs and none of the old Valkyrie employees work there anymore

3 people have contacted me and I have already reached out to them.

I'm here trying to help but if you don't feel comfortable then I understand and just ask for your patience while Paulo works to contact you.
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Can anyone verify if someone is at the shop today? Waited from 11-1230 and no one was there . drove 2.5 hrs to take a chance. I going to wait in the area. Report back if anyone gets in
I was at VA Friday afternoon around 3pm and met with Paul to process my refund for a SSE transfer. While I was there, he mentioned he is only at Valkyrie Arms on weekdays (M-F), so he would not be there at all during the weekend. Hopefully this will save a few people from a long and futile drive trying to catch Paul at VA on Sunday.

He also said he will be delivering a batch of guns to Metal Dog Tactical himself on Monday, as it'll be faster and cheaper, and will reach out to the owners once that's done. And he'll likely do the same with guns that are going to Tracy Rifle and Pistol. Paul is also still working through the inventory and trying to reach out to people who still have any firearm at VA, but he's simply swamped at the moment, so be patient and you should hear from him soon if you already emailed for refund.

btw, my refund was sent to the credit card which I used to pay originally. I have a refund receipt from the credit card machine, so I am pretty sure the money will be there in a few days.

This was my first SSE pistol purchase, and my first dealings with VA, so I am somewhat bummed on how things turned out. I don't know what will happen with this store, but it's unlikely that I'll return after this first impression.

Anyway, I hope everyone who still has money/gun with VA get sorted out soon.

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Clearly nobody here has done an ATF audit before.

It's a pretty big deal, it's easier to shutdown for a week.
I'm sorry, i guess you're making enough money that you can afford to sit on you a** for a week and let your customers hang
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[QUOTE=welson75;9878831] I was at VA Friday afternoon around 3pm and met with Paul to process my refund for a SSE transfer. While I was there, he mentioned he is only at Valkyrie Arms on weekdays (M-F), so he would not be there at all during the weekend. Hopefully this will save a few people from a long and futile drive trying to catch Paul at VA on Sunday.

He also said he will be delivering a batch of guns to Metal Dog Tactical himself on Monday, as it'll be faster and cheaper, and will reach out to the owners once that's done. [/QUOTE]

Very interesting, as Metal Dog Tactical is closed on Mondays. Paul has not made any arrangements with us regarding this "delivery" on Monday.

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Pink stock,

I was there to pick up my gun last week and Paul is taking a monumental task and he might have forgot to check your hours so instead of bad mouthing him help him out and reach out to him so he can better help the customers he is generating you its not his fault that all this happened he was even telling me to go to your shop to buy guns cause he did not know the status there


Please just think if you were in his shoes

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Full spread this morning. Good luck, boys!
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Pink stock,

I was there to pick up my gun last week and Paul is taking a monumental task and he might have forgot to check your hours so instead of bad mouthing him help him out and reach out to him so he can better help the customers he is generating you its not his fault that all this happened he was even telling me to go to your shop to buy guns cause he did not know the status there


Please just think if you were in his shoes
He said metal dog is closed on Monday.

Then he said that this guy had not yet made any arrangements.

Where is the bad mouthing?
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I was at VA Friday afternoon around 3pm and met with Paul to process my refund for a SSE transfer. While I was there, he mentioned he is only at Valkyrie Arms on weekdays (M-F), so he would not be there at all during the weekend. Hopefully this will save a few people from a long and futile drive trying to catch Paul at VA on Sunday.

He also said he will be delivering a batch of guns to Metal Dog Tactical himself on Monday, as it'll be faster and cheaper, and will reach out to the owners once that's done. [/QUOTE]

Very interesting, as Metal Dog Tactical is closed on Mondays. Paul has not made any arrangements with us regarding this "delivery" on Monday.

-Carminia
that's what I was told, so I don't know if he is aware that MDT is closed on Monday. but hopefully he'll contact MDT to make arrangements before he heads over with the guns and find closed doors with noone inside.
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Folks,

I know I've reached out to everyone that has PM'd me and I believe that some of the cases have already been resolved.

So if you have gun that has been DROS'd and you waiting for pick up you can now send an e-mail to pickups.policesupply@gmail.com to schedule a pickup.

Please use returns.valkyriearms@gmail.com for other questions about refunds

you also can continue to PM and i'll try to help.
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I just got off the phone with squackatu. He was able to tell me my SN on my pistol so he is definitely working with the VA shop and not out to get your information in any way. I'd recommend PMing him as it sounds like they're working it out now.
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Pink stock,

I was there to pick up my gun last week and Paul is taking a monumental task and he might have forgot to check your hours so instead of bad mouthing him help him out and reach out to him so he can better help the customers he is generating you its not his fault that all this happened he was even telling me to go to your shop to buy guns cause he did not know the status there


Please just think if you were in his shoes
I wouldn't be in his shoes, because that's not how we run Metal Dog Tactical. We've never taken payment or even a deposit for a firearms that is out of stock & cannot be ordered immediately. We've deliberately never had or wanted partners. MDT is owned by 2 people, myself & my husband. We started small & are very focused on our market and goals. Our business does not involve a lot of SSE. Every gun store is run differently. It is not my responsibility to reach out to Paul. He has a monumental task ahead of him because of Valkyrie's owners. This is Valkyrie's mess. There, I said it. We're sympathetic to Valkyrie customers who are caught up in all this, and we've even discounted our FFL transfer fees for these customers. In every instance we've been asked to help, we have done our best to have shipments diverted. When we've received a firearm from Valkyrie, we've contacted the owners immediately to being DROS. I've refrained from commenting or publishing my opinions about this entire situation, even though we've received a lot of first-hand information. The bottom line is that if Paul made arrangements in advance, regarding the Monday delivery, I wouldn't even be posting. I should be thankful to Paul for all "the customers he is generating"? Wow. I, like many other people out there, wish this Valkyrie mess never happened. And if you think by referring to this situation as a "mess", I am bad mouthing them, then so be it. It looks like that from every angle.

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I wouldn't be in his shoes, because that's not how we run Metal Dog Tactical. We've never taken payment or even a deposit for a firearms that is out of stock & cannot be ordered immediately. We've deliberately never had or wanted partners. MDT is owned by 2 people, myself & my husband. We started small & are very focused on our market and goals. Our business does not involve a lot of SSE. Every gun store is run differently. It is not my responsibility to reach out to Paul. He has a monumental task ahead of him because of Valkyrie's owners. This is Valkyrie's mess. There, I said it. We're sympathetic to Valkyrie customers who are caught up in all this, and we've even discounted our FFL transfer fees for these customers. In every instance we've been asked to help, we have done our best to have shipments diverted. When we've received a firearm from Valkyrie, we've contacted the owners immediately to being DROS. I've refrained from commenting or publishing my opinions about this entire situation, even though we've received a lot of first-hand information. The bottom line is that if Paul made arrangements in advance, regarding the Monday delivery, I wouldn't even be posting. I should be thankful to Paul for all "the customers he is generating"? Wow. I, like many other people out there, wish this Valkyrie mess never happened. And if you think by referring to this situation as a "mess", I am bad mouthing them, then so be it. It looks like that from every angle.

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Paul is an Outside auditor and has nothing to do with Valkyrie he actually had nothing but great things to say about you and says he has even had work done at your shop so all I am is saying please understand with all going on for him please be simpathatic to his situation not make him look like a idiot on here
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Don't you think he should check with us first, before telling customers about a delivery? I know exactly what his role is. I should not have said anything at all about being closed on Monday. Lesson learned.
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Don't you think he should check with us first, before telling customers about a delivery? I know exactly what his role is. I should not have said anything at all about being closed on Monday. Lesson learned.
you claim to be a owner at Metal Dog act like a business professional you can point fingers like a child or help Paul is in investigations due to a restructure in ownership he is not a related to Valkyrie

it worries me your interested in clearing your name more than just helping out the customers you are going to be getting cause one day this similar situation
me being a gun buyer and owner frankly wonder why anyone would wanna do business with such a unprofessional person
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you claim to be a owner at Metal Dog act like a business professional you can point fingers like a child or help Paul is in investigations due to a restructure in ownership he is not a related to Valkyrie

it worries me your interested in clearing your name more than just helping out the customers you are going to be getting cause one day this similar situation
me being a gun buyer and owner frankly wonder why anyone would wanna do business with such a unprofessional person
Her name doesn't need clearing, she said they were closed Monday & you have been trying to spin it into an attack.

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Next time I will just let the misinformation fly. Yes, it was unprofessional of ME to state our store hours and that no arrangements have been made. Clearing our name? That really shows a lack of understanding on your part.
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you claim to be a owner at Metal Dog act like a business professional you can point fingers like a child or help Paul is in investigations due to a restructure in ownership he is not a related to Valkyrie

it worries me your interested in clearing your name more than just helping out the customers you are going to be getting cause one day this similar situation
me being a gun buyer and owner frankly wonder why anyone would wanna do business with such a unprofessional person
That's ok, I don't think anyone else here wants to do business with you either.
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It is good to see everyone is so passionately sharing info and opinion about this VA shop issue. It means we need more shops/competition in the local market place so bad shops can go out of business quickly and good shops can thrive more with better selection and price.

Bases on what everyone who have been to the store saying... if Paul is not a store employee nor owner, what the heck is he doing accessing customers' info and handling customers firearms?? Him having any access without any official responsibility of the store is another violation of data privacy, a serious regulatory issue, IMHO. Where is the owner or manger of VA? Not a single person mentioned they have spoken with the current owner or manager or actual employee since the whole mess happened over 10 days ago.
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Next time I will just let the misinformation fly. Yes, it was unprofessional of ME to state our store hours and that no arrangements have been made. Clearing our name? That really shows a lack of understanding on your part.
yup, better for Paul to try to deliver the firearms tomorrow and nobody be there. And after those handguns aren't delivered, you know that you would have customers showing up during the week (maybe even on monday) expecting to find their handguns at MDT. I'd bet that when they are told that their handgun isn't at MDT, that some of those customers will be upset with MDT, even though it wasn't MDT's fault.

So, yes, better to not say anything about you being closed tomorrow and that Paul hasn't made arrangements to make that Monday delivery that he has mentioned to others.
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