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Old 12-06-2012, 1:24 PM
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Default Took the gamble on a cheap SKS

I haven't seen anyone mention the $179 fair condition ChiCom C&R SKS' from Century so I figured I'd throw the dice...Just ordered last night so it will be a couple weeks before I see what shows up!

Before the mud slinging begins....I've been collecting SKS' for over 25 years since the days of $69 new Chinese and $99 non-refurb Russians @ Turners and have all the types except the holy grails, so I really don't care if I receive a really poor example. But I do enjoy gambling on buying something just to see what I receive and for $194 shipped I won't lose.
Heck the trigger group is worth a hundred bucks..

I also have enough spare parts to replace almost anything.

I have picked up several u-fix-em Mausers from Century that only needed cleaning and a small part or 2 and had a nice rifle for 40 bucks so I have often lucked out...

Will be back with pictures when the big brown truck stops at my house in a couple weeks.
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Now a days it's hard to get any rifle for that amount of money - so the gamble is worth it.
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Wow, lets us know how it turns out. Still waiting on my C&R to come in the mail. I was planning on buying an M24/47, but if the SKS is in serviceable condition I may have to jump on it.
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Different breeds of cat. Everyone should have a bolt action, and everyone should have a semiauto.
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Different breeds of cat. Everyone should have a bolt action, and everyone should have a semiauto.
Yeah I know, I already have a 91/30. I really want an SKS, but I just love the look of the Mauser.
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Sarco has 2 SKS survial kits.Kit A has somr parts for about 30 dollers and kit B has all of [A] plus a stock and hand guard and other parts for about 60.
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This was a stupid decision. You should have ordered five and got free shipping.

You won't ever regret a $200 SKS. You will regret not buying a $200 SKS.
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No mud slinging. I paid way more than that for my Norinco and it has satisfied me in every way.

Well... not EVERY way...
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I actually picked up a new Chinese SKS 3 years ago off Gunbroker for $200 shipped.
Of course I had to pay $75 more for an FFL transfer but the $200 SKS wasn't that long ago...

Now that I think about it I got a few C&R Romys for $225 each a couple years ago too..
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i like my cheep SKS i got on the turners sale. i put about 100 rounds thru it 2 weeks ago. it functions properly in every way.

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Wow, I didn't know Century had them for that cheap...

Good grief...I might have to get another (or two)...
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I haven't seen anyone mention the $179 fair condition ChiCom C&R SKS' from Century so I figured I'd throw the dice...Just ordered last night so it will be a couple weeks before I see what shows up!



Will be back with pictures when the big brown truck stops at my house in a couple weeks.
I just placed my order with Century as well. This ought to be interesting as to what pics have been floating around here. To me of what I have seen, they all look to be in "fair" condition. So, in do time we shall see what we get JAGGUY.
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I haven't seen anyone mention the $179 fair condition ChiCom C&R SKS' from Century so I figured I'd throw the dice...
Expect a "fair" amount of rust.

I would go with "good/cracked stocked" over "fair" if that was the choice.

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I just placed my order with Century as well. This ought to be interesting as to what pics have been floating around here. To me of what I have seen, they all look to be in "fair" condition. ...
Nope. Most of the Sino-Banian SKS photos people have posted are "good" condition. The stocks may be beat to hell, but the metal is good. The "fair" rifles are in worse shape, with more than a little surface rust and pitting.

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My first two Sino-Banians were from AIM ("fair" condition) and both had places where the metal looked like this:



I then ordered 5 from Grabagun ("good" condition) and another 5 from Centerfire ("good" condition) and none of these had any problems like this with the metal. Pay a little extra for as long as the better condition rifles are available.
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lasbrg - thanks for sharing that. Painful to see. I think I will avoid the "fair" condition; I can deal with beat up wood, but rust pitting... no thanks.

What are you going to do to clean up the rust?
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lasbrg - thanks for sharing that. Painful to see. I think I will avoid the "fair" condition; I can deal with beat up wood, but rust pitting... no thanks.

What are you going to do to clean up the rust?
I don't know. I read something about scraping the rust with a copper (pre-1982) penny. Those are still in cosmoline waiting until I come up with a plan.
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We shall see. The rust can be removed of what I use, "Evaporust". By the way, who were the importers on yours? All in all they all look like doggy doo but, I know some magic. Further more, its for my grandson ho...ho...ho! He'll like it no matter what it will look like.
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We shall see. The rust can be removed of what I use, "Evaporust".
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All the Chinese C&R SKSs on the market now (but rapidly selling out apparently) were imported by Century International Arms. They are all early production Type 56 SKSs with blade bayonets. Century refuses to give out any information on their history, but the consensus on the various forums is that these were sent by China as aid rifles to Albania back when Albania broke away from the Soviet Union. Hence the "Sino-Banian" (or "Sinobanian") moniker.
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Sarco has 2 SKS survial kits.Kit A has somr parts for about 30 dollers and kit B has all of [A] plus a stock and hand guard and other parts for about 60.
This is a good recommendation, everyone should probably have some core replacement parts for each firearm they own.
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My first two Sino-Banians were from AIM ("fair" condition) and both had places where the metal looked like this:



I then ordered 5 from Grabagun ("good" condition) and another 5 from Centerfire ("good" condition) and none of these had any problems like this with the metal. Pay a little extra for as long as the better condition rifles are available.
Thanks for sharing this pic. It really got me thinking about the barrel having pitting issues. Just got off the phone with sales rep at C.A.I. S. Stanko and was able to cancel the order. So, again thanks for the pic.
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Thanks for sharing this pic. It really got me thinking about the barrel having pitting issues. Just got off the phone with sales rep at C.A.I. S. Stanko and was able to cancel the order. So, again thanks for the pic.
You're welcome 0321jarhead. (Also thanks for the link in the PM.)

In the interests of full disclosure, I should make clear that the rusty SKS photo is not one of mine - it is another 2012 Century Chinese Sino-Banian from another forum. All 12 Type 53s I bought are still in cosmoline in storage and will probably stay that way until my mother-in-law goes home. I bought two, the first two, in "fair" condition and they both had sections on the metal that looked like the photo. Learning from this, I bought five more in "good" condition. When they proved to be in much better shape (no rust to speak of), I bought another five in "good" condition and they were also in great condition. This last batch included my "Iron Maiden" SKS.

So in my experience, the "fair" condition rifles should be avoided. To me, the good condition/cracked stock SKSs have the big advantage that they can be "bubba-ed" without feeling guilty about defacing a historic object. I just bought two Tapco T6 stocks ($61 each shipped at Buds) and two SKS drum magazines ($69 each from Centerfire during the one-day sale last week), but I am still unsure which guns to modify. I suppose it will be the two with rust, but it would have been much more convenient if these two had good metal and bad stocks instead of the other way around..
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the thing about sks is they are made of thick metal and it takes a long time to rust through i would love that rust bucket i bet it shots fine

scrub it up with some oil and steel wool
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the thing about sks is they are made of thick metal and it takes a long time to rust through i would love that rust bucket i bet it shots fine

scrub it up with some oil and steel wool
That's good to hear bohoki, thanks! So you think the chrome-lined barrels are ok (0321jarhead's concern) when the exterior shows a lot of pitting?
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If you want to see what a "fair" Century $179 SKS looks like, check this thread and scroll down towards the bottom. They're pretty rough.

http://www.californiafords.com/ubb/u...c;f=1;t=057323
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I already have 8 SKSs but still regret not buying one of these...
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the thing about sks is they are made of thick metal and it takes a long time to rust through i would love that rust bucket i bet it shots fine

scrub it up with some oil and steel wool
Think of the barrel like the P.G.& E. gas pipe that blew up in San Bruno a couple years back. Or even a water main pipe downtown that sprung a leak do to corrosion. The pitting is then a weak spot. It does not have to "rust through" to create a weak spot. With what I just saw on that other forum post with the CAI "Fair" condition rust buckets, it would'nt be worth it to spend $179 just to blow up and injure or kill me or others nearby me. Those should be sold as "You fix ems" or for parts only. IMHO, I would not even want one as a wall hanger.

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OMG, that one in the link is just a ball of rust with some unrusted metal around it. Yikes, no thanks.
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I'll wait and see. The examples shown on Survivor's SKS board look pretty good, nothing like shown here...
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The rusty ones look pretty ruff.

But I would bet you it runs like a top, the beauty of the SKS is it runs even if its in ugly condition

So its clearly a roll of the dice, some may be diamonds in the rough .. some not so much
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My first two Sino-Banians were from AIM ("fair" condition) and both had places where the metal looked like this:



I then ordered 5 from Grabagun ("good" condition) and another 5 from Centerfire ("good" condition) and none of these had any problems like this with the metal. Pay a little extra for as long as the better condition rifles are available.
I agree! I just sent back for refund the $179 SKS from Century, wood was good BUT the buttplate, receiver, dust cover, bolt carrier were deeply pitted and it was loaded to the gunnels with cosmoline and dirt. Sorry I don't do pitting, rough wood I can handle pitting no! I requested no pitting when I ordered and got mucho pitting. Plus the packaging was poor, it went back pacaked and padded the way it should have been shipped to me! I often wonder what came first the cosmoline or the pitting

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If you want to see what a "fair" Century $179 SKS looks like, check this thread and scroll down towards the bottom. They're pretty rough.

http://www.californiafords.com/ubb/u...c;f=1;t=057323
Bet it had a "GREAT Bore" though
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The ones on that link looked ruff to me too.

The above sks, has a little rust on the receiver cover(swapable) and a tiny bit on the receiver. Seems 'fair' condition to me, unless it was sold as something else.

It's hardly worth xraying or anything but functionally that rifle looks fine.
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