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Old 11-19-2012, 5:01 PM
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Anybody use lead free primers? A few years ago they were not up to providing consistent ignition, just curious if the problems have been solved and if we can get them now.
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I am interested in this question as well. I posted this inquiry on The High Road for the Tula lead free SPP's that Grafs has available. No feedback so far.

Also sent an email to Grafs for input. Will post what I find out.
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Old 11-20-2012, 6:13 AM
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Got this response from Grafs

Jacob Nixon jacobn@grafs.com
6:18 AM (15 minutes ago)

No problems at all. Are just fine to use.

Thank You,
Jacob NixonGraf & Sons Inc. Technical Support
573-581-2266 ext. 123


Pretty generic response, no additional information.
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Old 11-20-2012, 9:46 AM
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I've used the Fiocchi lead-free primers. They seem to work well in .38/357 with at least Bullseye, Titegroup, and 2400. Haven't tried 'em with H110/W296, since mine aren't the magnum versions.

However, from what I read of the brisance (explosiveness / energy given off) of the new lead-free compound, it's said to actually be higher than the lead styphnate equivalent, which is why they don't do LPP versions with it. Apparently they were seeing extra-high pressure spikes, because it's kinda hot. Therefore, it might be worth a try with H110/W296 and a few rounds just to see if it performs well. They may well end up being a good substitute for magnum primers, they may not. Hmmm.....
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I'm trying to continue to lower my blood lead levels, this is one way to do it. If the lead free SPP's are a little 'hotter' than the normal SPP's, I can work up new charges. I'm loading 9mm and 45ACP with W231, WST, or Bullseye. They have plenty of range to work with, so backing down slightly for the primer and finding the new sweet spot for target velocities is not an issue.

I just bought 10K SPP and LPP, on top of the 3K I already had. After Christmas, I'll probably buy a case of the Tula lead free to test. If it works out, I'll be selling all of my CCI, S&B and Magtech primers. Stay tuned.
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Old 11-20-2012, 1:03 PM
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I just ordered 1k SP primers, we'll see how they work out. Unfortunately they were out of LP's.
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I just ordered 1k SP primers, we'll see how they work out.
Do keep us posted.
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I have some PMC Leadfree primers, but I haven't used them all that much. I loaded some 9mm with TiteGroup and Berrys 124gr round nose plated and the primers worked perfectly. Then I loaded some .380 using TiteGroup and Berrys 100gr round nose plated and I had 3 out of 100 that failed to fire. All 3 of those rounds had good solid hits on the PMC Leadfree primers. I put the three rounds back in my weapon and I was able to get 2 of the 3 to fire on the second hit, but the last round refused to fire. I know for a fact that my hammer spring on my 9mm Beretta 92FS hits the primers a lot harder than my .380 ACP Ruger LCP does, but I still believe that the LCP should have fired those primers reliably. I'll do some more testing with loading the PMC Leadfree primers in 9mm and .40 Cal and keep you posted on my results.
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Thanks for posting this up. I had been wondering about these. I'm also concerned about lead levels but have been hesitant to try these. It sounds like they may be pretty reliable now. Does anyone know if they offer lead free rifle primers?
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