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Old 11-28-2012, 10:04 AM
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What is the best ear muffs out there? I need to upgrade and want to get your opinion on the best out there?
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:15 AM
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MSA Sordin get real good reviews.

http://www.srstactical.com/communications/communication-hearing-protection-headsets/avenger-mil-spec-tactical-communications-headset/74700__74701.html
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:15 AM
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Sordins with the gel cups........ Pure awesome...
I have pro ears, peltors, howard Ls, and the sordins MSA pros....I can easily wear those ALL day no issue...
I would buy another set in an heartbeat...
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:53 AM
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Sordins with the gel cups........ Pure awesome...
I have pro ears, peltors, howard Ls, and the sordins MSA pros....I can easily wear those ALL day no issue...
I would buy another set in an heartbeat...
Absolutely.

I have several electronic earmuffs including the Howard Leight Impact Sport Electronic Earmuffs and two from Peltor: Tactidal 7S & SwatTac 2. The MSA Sordin Pro-X beats the Peltor SwatTac 2 because of the extra comfort of the gels and waterproofing. You cannot use the SwatTac in the rain since it will damage the electronics.
MSA Sordin Supreme Pro-X (BLACK): $265

MSA Sordin Supreme Pro-X (OD Green): $250

GEL Earmuff Seals for MSA Sordin Supreme Pro: $39
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:06 AM
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The best, no idea.

The cheapo Sportsmans Guide muffs ($20?) work fine outside. If I went inside I would put plugs in as well.
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:58 PM
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Where are those MSA Sordins made in?
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Old 11-28-2012, 1:11 PM
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+1 on the MSA/Sordins with the gel rings.
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Old 11-28-2012, 1:16 PM
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+1 on the MSA/Sordins with the gel rings.
Yup +1 for MSA ProX with Gel seals
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The Sordins have a pitiful 19-24 NRR. Pro Ears go up to 32.
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i dig my howard leights, cheap and effective for me
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The Sordins have a pitiful 19-24 NRR. Pro Ears go up to 32.
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Personally, I balance what gives me "sufficient" hearing protection electronically AND an all day 7+ hours of comfortable wear.
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MSA/ProX here too
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MSA Sordin Supreme Pro X is the best ($260) but the Peltor Tac 6 is the best value ($55). I run the Tac 6 for all competition, including 3 gun.
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When I had to send in my Pro Ears for warranty repairs after nearly 5 years of ownership I used my Peltor Tac 6s and immediately could tell a difference. They didn't block as much noise, and took longer to amplify speech after a shot than my Pro Ears. I'd like to use MSA Sordins but their NRR rating is just too low and I value my hearing too much.
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Kinda' old school here and don't go for the electronic type. My favorite is the Peltor "Shotgunner". Basic, cheap, light, comfortable and very decent level of protection. The extra thing I like about them over any other I have tried is the lo-profile dished out contour. This means I can get a good, real low cheek weld with rifles and shotguns without the muffs contacting the stock like most everything else I have tried does. Additionally, they are really light and comfortable to wear all day without getting ear-clamp syndrome. Their price-point of at, or under $20 also makes it really easy to own many, many pairs so I can keep spares with me and have them handy everywhere. At 21db NR rating they perform very well too.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/106...muffs-nrr-21db
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man you guys got me wanting to buy a pair of these MSA Pro-x ears
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Old 11-28-2012, 5:40 PM
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man you guys got me wanting to buy a pair of these MSA Pro-x ears
Yeah, but only 16-18db NRR for that price!
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Old 11-28-2012, 5:46 PM
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Get a pair of molded earplugs and then any decent earmuff will work for doubling up.
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MSA Sordin Supreme Pro X is the best ($260) but the Peltor Tac 6 is the best value ($55). I run the Tac 6 for all competition, including 3 gun.
You don't have issues with your stock hitting your ear-pro with those Tac 6?
Trying to find one that works with my rifle. I go to plugs now because I seem to always knock the right side up when I shoulder my AR.
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Old 11-28-2012, 8:33 PM
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I have the Peltor Tac 6 and don't have any issues. If you need to get more dB reduction double up then turn the headset on to adjust how much you can hear. I never thought of the comfort level for headsets though as I never had a issue with mine.
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I have and love the MSA Sordin with gel cups. I just had some molded plugs made and dont like them. The person who turned me on to the plugs said they were great with a filter allowing you to hear voices. I let them use my Sordins and they agreed it was a whole other level .
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Pro Ears Ultra 33. The best I have found.
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Old 11-29-2012, 7:51 AM
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You don't have issues with your stock hitting your ear-pro with those Tac 6?
Trying to find one that works with my rifle. I go to plugs now because I seem to always knock the right side up when I shoulder my AR.
Sorry to thread jack.
Not electronic, but the Peltor Shotgunner muffs don't have that problem. They are specifically dished out to prevent this. Plus they have a 21db NRR

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/106...muffs-nrr-21db
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Old 11-29-2012, 8:37 AM
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21 NRR is really poor protection.
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Old 11-29-2012, 9:26 AM
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21 NRR is really poor protection.
So what's considered minimium NRR for indoor shooting and for outdoor?

Also are pro ears waterproof or at least water resisitant?

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Here are a few specific and general links about hearing protection with some good information.

"Excessive noise is defined as 85-90 decibels or more over an 8 hour period."

The higher the noise level the less time you should be exposed to it.
Oregon OSHA’s Quick Guide To Hearing Protection

Noise Reduction Ratings Explained

Hearing Protectors

Hearing Protection

How to Choose Shooting Earmuffs

What Is an NRR Rating on Hearing Protection?
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21 NRR is really poor protection.
21db NRR is plenty good for outdoor ranges where I always shoot. Just add foam plugs under muffs, especially if indoor with high muzzle blast and you are good to go.

Always a good idea to add foam plugs under muffs, especially for competition where the muffs may get jarred loose during physical movement.

The MSA ones everyone raves about here are only 18db NRR, now thats a poor rating. Basically, half the protection of the $20 Peltors at 10x the price. Why bother with electronic ones that make you double plug anyway

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How do the gel seals work with glasses? I have an issue with my prescription glass always being under the cup and allowing leakage - not to mention being uncomfortable.
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Old 11-29-2012, 2:46 PM
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How do the gel seals work with glasses? I have an issue with my prescription glass always being under the cup and allowing leakage - not to mention being uncomfortable.
Great. I wear prescription glasses and none of the cool Oakley frames could manage my very bad eyes. The gel seals around the frame so well that even positions like urban prone don't hamper the seal.
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I can wear the gel cups 6 hours and not feel any discomfort and I wear oakly Rx glasses.

In terms of protection indoors I double up but outdoors the MSA are amazing. In your home you will hear crickets, wind chimes several houses over, cars driving several blocks away. The electronics are simply amazing and you will feel like you have Super Hero hearing. My main decision was the 5 year warranty because my peltors died after 1 drop on the dirt.
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