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Old 11-11-2012, 2:51 AM
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Default Scope for a 5.56 16" AR

Im in the market for a scope in the range of $700-$800. Wotheuld like some advise from the members here
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Save your lunch money and get this.

https://www.primaryarms.com/TRTA31HG_DE_p/ta31hg-de.htm

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Its like asking, "I have $25,000 what car should I buy?"

Trijicon, Leupold, Zeiss ...http://www.rifle-scope-guide.com/700...opes-for-sale/
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Nikon M223 with IRT
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NIKON M-223 2.5-10X40 LSR IRT

Get on target, range, and take the shot in seconds--all without lifting your cheek from the stock--with the Nikon M-223 2.5-10x40 riflescope. The scope is outfitted with Nikon's Immediate Ranging Technology (IRT), which combines the speed and precision of a Nikon rangefinder with the accuracy potential of a standard M-223 scope.

Simply place the reticle on your target, press the scope's patented one-touch activator button, and select the proper ballistic circle on the BDC reticle. The one-touch laser technology will keep ranging and displaying the distance for 12 seconds, so you have plenty of time to line up your shot. The M-223 scope also includes a BDC 600 reticle. Developed specifically for the trajectory of the .223 Rem 5.56 NATO round with 55-grain polymer tip bullets at approximately 3,240 fps, the BDC 600 reticle gives shooters unique open circle aiming points and hash marks from 100 to 600 yards.

Nothing boosts a shooter's level of confidence better than generous, constant eye relief, which is why Nikon's eye relief is a sizable 3.5 inches. No more rough kickback from heavy recoiling cartridges, lightweight rifles, severe shooting angles, and just plain excitement. Nikon also included its Ultra ClearCoat (UCC) optical system, which is engineered to provide the shooter with a bright, sharp, incredibly flat sight picture and light transmission up to 95 percent of the theoretical maximum. And to simplify field adjustments, Nikon integrated a zero-reset turret into its M-223 riflescopes. Just sight in at 100 yards, lift the adjustment knob, rotate to your "zero," and re-engage. Field adjustments are now as simple as dialing in your subsequent ranges.

Other features include a convenient remote control that attaches to most firearms, a smooth zoom control with magnification reference numbers viewable from the shooter's position, a low-profile mounting system, and an integral mount for Picatinny rails.

BDC 600 Reticle.

Developed specifically for the trajectory of the .223 Rem 5.56 NATO round with 55-grain polymer tip bullet at approximately 3240 fps, the new BDC 600 reticle offers shooters unique open circle aiming points and hash marks from 100 to 600 yards.

Zero-Reset Turrets

To simplify field adjustments, especially with the Rapid Action Turret and Nikoplex reticle, Nikon has integrated this feature into all M-223 riflescopes. Just sight-in at 100 yards as usual, then lift the adjustment knob, rotate to your “zero”, and re-engage. Field adjustments are now as simple as dialing-in your subsequent ranges.

Patent-pending laser activator

This fast, one-touch button makes determining range and taking the shot fast and simple.

Low profile mounting system

Places the IRT securely and safely on your rifle. Eye Box technology

Smooth zoom control

Magnification reference numbers are viewable from the shooter's position.

Waterproof, fogproof, shockproof

Nitrogen-filled and O-ring sealed.

Specifications:

Finish: Matte black
Reticle: BDC 600
Actual magnification: 2.5x-10x
Objective diameter: 40mm
Exit pupil: 16mm (2.5x), 4mm (10x)
Eye relief: 3.5 inches
Field of view: 34.5 feet @ 100 yards (2.5x), 9.2 feet @ 100 yards (10x)
Tube diameter: N/A
Objective OD: 2 inches
Eyepiece OD: 1.68 inches
Adjustment graduation: 1/4 MOA
Max internal adjustment: 60 MOA
Parallax setting: 100 yards
Length: 12.3 inches
Weight: 21.52 ounces
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Old 11-14-2012, 2:46 AM
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Here is the best bang for your buck.

Burris Extreme Tactical Scope
http://www.google.com/products/catal...ed=0CF0Q8gIwAA
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Old 11-14-2012, 5:06 AM
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What do you want the gun to be good at?
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In your price range I'd look at a Weaver Tactical 1-5x24 Specs. I've been giving the Weavers a lot of thought myself as well as the less expensive Vortex Viper PST 1-4x24.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/168...-reticle-matte
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I have a trijicon accupoint in a LaRue mount. Works great.
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These are good
https://www.primaryarms.com/Burris_1...p/bu201904.htm

And so are these

https://www.primaryarms.com/Vortex_V...pst-14st-m.htm

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Old 11-14-2012, 9:06 AM
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Dimitri needs to get a raise for how hard he works... lol.

But how you gonna give him advice when we have no clue what the purpose of his rifle is? :P
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With that budget, there are probably hundreds of decent options available. We need a more specific definition of what you want the rifle to be used for. Generally, for a standard carbine I'd suggest either a red dot setup or a 1-4X for a bit more versatility. For a free floated, accurized upper I'd go with a bit more magnification. 1-6X would be a good start. At the upper end of magnification I'd suggest (9-12X) would be scopes like the SS 3-9X42, Viper PST 2.5-10X44 or Bushnell 3-12x44 G2DMR.
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But how you gonna give him advice when we have no clue what the purpose of his rifle is? :P
It's a 16" carbine so if the purpose is anything other than CQB and self defense and coyote control out to 200m he bought the wrong rifle.
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It's a 16" carbine so if the purpose is anything other than CQB and self defense and coyote control out to 200m he bought the wrong rifle.
Depends on configuration. For a standard M4 style rifle I would agree with you. On a free floated stainless rifle, the practical range and accuracy is only slightly less than that of a similarly configured 18 or 20" barrel. With the right ammo, a 16" barrel can maintain good accuracy out to 700+ yards.
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It's a 16" carbine so if the purpose is anything other than CQB and self defense and coyote control out to 200m he bought the wrong rifle.
Even with what you said, there is still a huge variety to choose from. :P

Red Dot, ACOG, Riflescope, 1-4 variety, 2-10 variety... there's 3x magnifier.
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Depends on configuration. For a standard M4 style rifle I would agree with you. On a free floated stainless rifle, the practical range and accuracy is only slightly less than that of a similarly configured 18 or 20" barrel. With the right ammo, a 16" barrel can maintain good accuracy out to 700+ yards.
Agreed. My 16" AR performs various roles... i've 3 optics that I switch using QD mounts on that AR. An Aimpoint T1, an ACOG, a Nightforce 2.5-10x32mm.

Each serves its purpose.
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Used ACOG. Beware of fakes (FACOG) and stolen Government property.
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Dimitri needs to get a raise for how hard he works... lol.

But how you gonna give him advice when we have no clue what the purpose of his rifle is? :P
Not giving advise just showing options its up to him to decide.

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I've owned the following:

Vortex PST 1-4
Trijicon Accupoint 3-9, 1.25-4
Trijicon Reflex w/ a 4.5moa dot
Eotech 512
Vortex Strikefire, Sparc
Lucid HD7 + Magnifier
Leupold VX-R 2-7

For CQB-200, I loved my Vortex. For CQB-50-100 (and still able to make steel hits at 200 consistently), Eotech. For 100-400ish I would take my Leupold over my 3-9 Accupoint. I'm not talking about shooting sub moa groups and I'm far from a great shooter, just plinking and shooting an occasional varmint.
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Trijicon TR24(triangle), SWFA 1-4, ACOG
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Trijicon Accupoint scopes!

Check the link : http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=637220
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Thanks for all the advise. Sorry late to respond but been real busy. I have an ACR enhanced version 16 inch barrel. I know it takes alot of flak but I do love this rifle. I was thinking of upping the price to $1000. Found a dual illumination ACOG 4x32, TA-31H tan version for that price. Going to use for personal defense, out to 300 yards, if needed. What do you think?
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Thanks for all the advise. Sorry late to respond but been real busy. I have an ACR enhanced version 16 inch barrel. I know it takes alot of flak but I do love this rifle. I was thinking of upping the price to $1000. Found a dual illumination ACOG 4x32, TA-31H tan version for that price. Going to use for personal defense, out to 300 yards, if needed. What do you think?
I like the ACOG scopes, but the fixed power is kind of a turn off. Makes it kind of a one trick pony. In that price range there are many low power 1-4x and 1-6X variables that would fill the role of CQB and mid-long range optic making for a much more versatile rifle.
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Depends on configuration. For a standard M4 style rifle I would agree with you. On a free floated stainless rifle, the practical range and accuracy is only slightly less than that of a similarly configured 18 or 20" barrel. With the right ammo, a 16" barrel can maintain good accuracy out to 700+ yards.
+1, i took it out to 600 yards and if i knew how to read wind i'd be a sniper with it.

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Agreed. My 16" AR performs various roles... i've 3 optics that I switch using QD mounts on that AR. An Aimpoint T1, an ACOG, a Nightforce 2.5-10x32mm.

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If I could only have 1 scope for that 16" AR, I'd pick the ACOG TA31RCOM4

You've got enough features to play with and simple enough to use, lethal for the effective range of the weapon, no batteries, "calibrated" for the weapon, tough as nails

I'm basing this on the fact of what the rifle isn't:
-since it's .223 it's not a hunting rifle
-it's not a precision rifle, high powered rifle, so really what are you going to do with an extravagant FFP tactical scope

Just make sure to pick up one with tritium still burning bright, but if you are going to be use it in daytime conditions or tactical courses, even one with spent tritium will still have the advantage of fiber optic illumination and you can get it for one helluva discount.
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I have and used both Trijicon Acog & Trijicon Accupoint scopes for 3 Gun competitions. I like the Trijicon Accupoint better than the Acog because it gives me a better and faster acquisition. I can shoot 5 yards on CQB and at the same time shoot 350-400 yards of 18" steel plates at any given 3 Gun match.
The Trijicon Accupoint works great on night time shoots as well. Not needing a secondary unit is amazing. Bindon Aiming Concept is just great, you can shoot with both eyes open. Reticle works like a red dot with magnification.

Just recently sold my Trijicon Acog TA-31 DOC. And went with another Trijicon TR21 G.
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