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Old 11-04-2012, 10:43 PM
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Hello All,

Got a question for ya, figured you guys might be the best to ask this. It is to my understanding that LEO's can get firearms off the approved list with department approval. Once that weapon is DROS'ed and registered in the state, is it possible to transfer that firearm to someone who isn't a LEO so long as it complies with the capacity restriction?

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Old 11-04-2012, 11:07 PM
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Off roster guns can be transferred through the PPT process.
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Just don't ask your friendly acquaintance who is a LEO to buy and then re-sell to you - a couple Sac Sheriff deputies got in a bunch of trouble for that.

But if they no longer need or like something they bought, they may sell their handguns just like any other CA resident.
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If a field agent told you that, then it's an opinion. That requirement is not in any text that I have.
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Hello All,

Got a question for ya, figured you guys might be the best to ask this. It is to my understanding that LEO's can get firearms off the approved list with department approval. Once that weapon is DROS'ed and registered in the state, is it possible to transfer that firearm to someone who isn't a LEO so long as it complies with the capacity restriction?

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Yes. A LEO could buy an off roster gun, decide he does not like it, and sell it to a non-LEO.

However, to buy it simply for the purpose of flipping it to someone else, well to me that sounds like a straw purchase.

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Negative.
i agree
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Just has to stay in the LEO's name for 30 days.....
I wish it were that simple, but there is no mandated time nor is there a common 'rule of thumb'. It's undefined, so a bit of a risk; all we can guess is 'longer ownership is less likely to raise questions'.

Do recall that there was a bill introduced this year (that failed) that would have prohibited LEO from reselling off-Roster guns to other CA residents who were not also Roster-exempt.

In my opinion, if the only issue were to be how long one must own a gun before selling it, 'two years' is the absolute safe point - that or longer should never raise an issue.

That is obviously extremely conservative; maybe some other potential seller is comfortable at six months.

I further hold the opinion that 1 month or less is always going to be perilous.

But that's just opinion.
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I would agree with the above.

The biggest problem, however, is trying to make sense, or set guidelines

For something that is silly to the core.
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The reason I stated a month minimum is due to DOJ being behind...... If an LEO buys and transfer right away might throw a flag up as a straw purchase for a non roster firearm......
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