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Old 09-28-2012, 2:13 PM
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So I remember reading something on this forum a while ago about getting records for relitives who served in WWII, as well as full medals.

My grandfather, who passed away in 2005, was a Engineer SFC and served in the Battle of the Buldge, among other engagements. He received a military funeral, and on his grave, it noted he received the Air Medal. I had not heard anything about this from his stories, and considering he was an Engineer Sergeant, this seemed highly unusual - though I have heard of it happening - transport plane taking fire, crash landings, things like that. Also, things like that don't get put on military headstones lightly - they is research done, and records to prove it all - typically done by the WFV, or a governmental body. Anyway, my father (granddad's son) is all about doing research, and I wanted to find a way to get ahold of his old records, and possibly find the citation for his Air Medal, and get a copy of the medal itself (along with the WWII victory medal, and whatever else my Grandfather earned) I remember some folks posting links to various sites, etc. but my Search Fu has failed me, and I figured I would post something new and try and find the answer. Any help wouldbe appreciated.

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Old 09-28-2012, 3:22 PM
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I did this for my grandfather... Just had my mother fill it all out and took some time got his 214 and other stuff we requested,,,

http://www.archives.gov/veterans/

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You can get a copy of your Grandfather's DD214 from hall of records. Has to be the hall of records in the county he was discharged to. My father was from San Bernardino County,so I was able to get a copy of his DD214 from San Berdoo's County's hall of records. Dad was in the 8th Air Force and his DD214 showed the campaigns he was involved in. There is another web but I can't remember what its called. You might try to Google WWII war records.I lost my Dad two years ago at age 90.Glad I was able to find his records.I really hope you find the answers to your questions.Good luck.
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Hey Senk this is probably the thread you're thinking of: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=607191

Regardless there is useful information in there.
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Something I have been meaning to do myself. Grandfather revived the combat medical badge and was in various campaigns. A high school project years and years ago found that he should have also received a bronze star or something? Been meaning to look into that
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A lot of the Army records were destroyed by fire in 1973. You may not be able to find them. But try anyway.
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Do you know what unit your grandfather was in?
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A lot of the Army records were destroyed by fire in 1973. You may not be able to find them. But try anyway.
Both of my grandfathers' records were. I don't particularly care, although it has made making shadowboxes for them a bit more complicated. But sometimes the detective work can be fun and rewarding; I got to meet a lot of people and hear stories I wouldn't have, had I not done more digging.


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Having gone through this twice, here are some things that might help.

Link to the NPRC. http://www.archives.gov/veterans/

As others have mentioned, fire destroyed 80% of the Army record of soldiers discharged between 1920 IIRC, and 1960. Some were salvaged and restored as best they could be. It's worth a try, but don't get your hopes up.

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The VA.

VFW or American Legion if he was a member, they sometimes have copies of some forms.

Check with the state and/or county veterans affairs office where he lived. Back then, a "Readjustment Allowance" was paid to discharged vets through the state, so they almost always filed their discharge document with them.

You aren't looking for a DD 214. They didn't exist yet. You want his WD AGO Form 55, Honorable Discharge. All the typical info on present day 214's was printed on the back of the discharge form. Sometimes, a soldier was also issued WD AGO Form 100, Seperation Qualification Record.

Hope this helps. Good Luck.
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You aren't looking for a DD 214. They didn't exist yet.
That's not true.
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That's not true.
Yes, I'm afraid it is true. The Department of Defense (DD Form) didn't even exist until 1949, and the first DD 214's were issued in 1950.

http://www.dd214.us/index.html

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The Defense Department issues to each veteran a DD-214, identifying the veteran's condition of discharge - honorable, general, other than honorable, dishonorable or bad conduct. Before January 1, 1950, several similar forms were used by the military services, including the WD AGO 53, WD AGO 55, WD AGO 53-55, NAVPERS 553, NAVMC 78PD, and the NAVCG 553.
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Also, one time only, a relative my obtain copies of the medals issued to the veteran. My mother did this for some of her fathers misplaced (stolen by her sister?) medals to finish a shadow box.
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Yes, I'm afraid it is true. The Department of Defense (DD Form) didn't even exist until 1949, and the first DD 214's were issued in 1950.

http://www.dd214.us/index.html
Sorry my mistake, I thought the OP said he got out well after the war. If he got out when it was over then as you said there would be no 214.
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