Calguns.net  

Home My iTrader Join the NRA Donate to CGSSA Sponsors CGN Google Search
CA Semiauto Ban(AW)ID Flowchart CA Handgun Ban ID Flowchart CA Shotgun Ban ID Flowchart
Go Back   Calguns.net > VENDORS > Primary Arms
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-02-2012, 4:57 PM
PrimaryArms's Avatar
PrimaryArms PrimaryArms is offline
Vendor/Retailer
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,601
iTrader: 6 / 100%
Default New PA reticule!! (PA ACSS 5.56/5.45)






Group shot at 600 and 700 yards using M193 55gr FMJ group was almost 6" with one direct hit on the 3" target!



PA set up


600 yards M193


This is a sneak peek of our new (PA ACSS-5.56/5.45) that is now in production and expected in a few months featuring our revolutionary reticle (PA ACSS5.56/5.45)combining BDC,wind,range estimation and leads.

Dimitri

Patent pending
Attached Images
File Type: jpg ImageUploadedByTapatalk1346633833.455040.jpg (16.6 KB, 421 views)
File Type: jpg photo.jpg (85.4 KB, 225 views)
__________________
www.primaryarms.com

Last edited by PrimaryArms; 03-12-2013 at 5:25 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-02-2012, 5:44 PM
BigAssWhiteBoy BigAssWhiteBoy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 106
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

That thing looks sick!!! How does the range estimation work? What measurements is it set for?

Last edited by PrimaryArms; 09-15-2012 at 7:39 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-02-2012, 5:47 PM
PrimaryArms's Avatar
PrimaryArms PrimaryArms is offline
Vendor/Retailer
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,601
iTrader: 6 / 100%
Default

The circle open end and cross hair is set for 18" (avg center mass) the vertical scale on the right is set for 5'10" (avg target height)

Dimitri
__________________
www.primaryarms.com

Last edited by PrimaryArms; 09-02-2012 at 6:47 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-02-2012, 6:57 PM
Mikelarry Mikelarry is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 219
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Wow that's great! Down to the wind!
When is it coming?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-02-2012, 7:24 PM
FMJBT's Avatar
FMJBT FMJBT is online now
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Los Alamos, NM
Posts: 4,604
iTrader: 16 / 100%
Default

Please tell me this will be available in something with greater than 4X magnification..... Great design BTW. Put it into something like a 2-8X or 2.5-10X variable and it would be a perfect DMR optic. I'm looking for glass to put on an SPR, this looks interesting.
__________________
U.S. Navy (Retired) 1994-2015
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-02-2012, 7:30 PM
ham66's Avatar
ham66 ham66 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Hemet CA. Riverside
Posts: 168
iTrader: 13 / 100%
Default

Sweet Just what I'm looking for can't wait to get one or two before the prices go up like everything else🔫🔫🔫
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-02-2012, 7:35 PM
PrimaryArms's Avatar
PrimaryArms PrimaryArms is offline
Vendor/Retailer
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,601
iTrader: 6 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FMJBT View Post
Please tell me this will be available in something with greater than 4X magnification..... Great design BTW. Put it into something like a 2-8X or 2.5-10X variable and it would be a perfect DMR optic. I'm looking for glass to put on an SPR, this looks interesting.
It will be available in a fixed 5x and variables 1x6 and others


Dimitri
__________________
www.primaryarms.com
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-02-2012, 7:44 PM
Mikelarry Mikelarry is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 219
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

What are the dots for?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-02-2012, 9:51 PM
PrimaryArms's Avatar
PrimaryArms PrimaryArms is offline
Vendor/Retailer
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,601
iTrader: 6 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikelarry View Post
What are the dots for?
They are leads set for average target speed
it's an old sniper lead to cover streets or alley ways.

Dimitri
__________________
www.primaryarms.com
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-02-2012, 9:56 PM
BigAssWhiteBoy BigAssWhiteBoy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 106
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Oh! They did their homework on this one I see! So you can range a "target" if it's facing you or not. I like that. Now, one more question. What round is the BDC set for? I usually shoot a 55gr. Will it line up right?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-03-2012, 5:52 AM
PrimaryArms's Avatar
PrimaryArms PrimaryArms is offline
Vendor/Retailer
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,601
iTrader: 6 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BigAssWhiteBoy View Post
Oh! They did their homework on this one I see! So you can range a "target" if it's facing you or not. I like that. Now, one more question. What round is the BDC set for? I usually shoot a 55gr. Will it line up right?
Being able to range the target in different angles is key! Not to mention wind, knowing the wind is just as crucial
It's never always going to be a calm day and your target will be in all angles.

Yes it's set for both M193 and M855 we will provide instructions on how to dial in using both ammo and different barrel lengths 14.5-20"

Dimitri
__________________
www.primaryarms.com

Last edited by PrimaryArms; 09-03-2012 at 6:00 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-03-2012, 7:07 AM
itisagoodname's Avatar
itisagoodname itisagoodname is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 1,350
iTrader: 41 / 100%
Default

I want this! Excellent, excellent work!

Any target date?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-03-2012, 7:18 AM
Mikelarry Mikelarry is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 219
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

What scope body?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-03-2012, 7:29 AM
C.W.M.V.'s Avatar
C.W.M.V. C.W.M.V. is online now
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,174
iTrader: 15 / 100%
Default

Very cool.
Too bad all my rifles are 7.62x39.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-03-2012, 8:35 AM
FMJBT's Avatar
FMJBT FMJBT is online now
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Los Alamos, NM
Posts: 4,604
iTrader: 16 / 100%
Default

Any chance of getting this reticle shoe-horned into a 2-12X32 tube similar to the Yukon 2-12 FFP?
__________________
U.S. Navy (Retired) 1994-2015
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 09-03-2012, 8:36 AM
PrimaryArms's Avatar
PrimaryArms PrimaryArms is offline
Vendor/Retailer
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,601
iTrader: 6 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by C.W.M.V. View Post
Very cool.
Too bad all my rifles are 7.62x39.
Lol we have a 7.62x39 version in the works as well
__________________
www.primaryarms.com
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 09-03-2012, 8:39 AM
PrimaryArms's Avatar
PrimaryArms PrimaryArms is offline
Vendor/Retailer
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,601
iTrader: 6 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikelarry View Post
What scope body?
Our 5x looks like our 3x but slightly bigger the others coming I can't say yet

Dimitri
__________________
www.primaryarms.com
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 09-03-2012, 8:41 AM
PrimaryArms's Avatar
PrimaryArms PrimaryArms is offline
Vendor/Retailer
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,601
iTrader: 6 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by itisagoodname View Post
I want this! Excellent, excellent work!

Any target date?
We are few months out Nov-Jan
__________________
www.primaryarms.com
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 09-03-2012, 8:50 AM
PrimaryArms's Avatar
PrimaryArms PrimaryArms is offline
Vendor/Retailer
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,601
iTrader: 6 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FMJBT View Post
Any chance of getting this reticle shoe-horned into a 2-12X32 tube similar to the Yukon 2-12 FFP?
We were thinking 4x14 FFP we plan on having it in various scopes

Dimitri
__________________
www.primaryarms.com
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 09-03-2012, 8:51 AM
itisagoodname's Avatar
itisagoodname itisagoodname is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 1,350
iTrader: 41 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PrimaryArms View Post
Our 5x looks like our 3x but slightly bigger the others coming I can't say yet

Dimitri
I just bought the 3x about an hour ago. Will this adapt to a carry handle as well?

May have to upgrade and throw the 3x on a pistol.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 09-03-2012, 8:54 AM
Mikelarry Mikelarry is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 219
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

[QUOTE=Mikelarry;9255664]

I love my 3x

Last edited by PrimaryArms; 09-03-2012 at 8:59 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 09-03-2012, 9:04 AM
marsh1's Avatar
marsh1 marsh1 is offline
Vendor/Retailer
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 212
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by itisagoodname View Post
I just bought the 3x about an hour ago. Will this adapt to a carry handle as well?

May have to upgrade and throw the 3x on a pistol.
The base comes off the 3X and it is perfect for a carry handle. The base is even drilled so you can use your iron sights.
__________________
Marshall Lerner
CEO Primary Arms, LLC
Proud to be a Calguns sponsor!!
Contact me at: Marshall@Primaryarms.com
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 09-03-2012, 9:06 AM
C.W.M.V.'s Avatar
C.W.M.V. C.W.M.V. is online now
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,174
iTrader: 15 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PrimaryArms View Post
Lol we have a 7.62x39 version in the works as well
Oh I was so hoping you would say that!
Sorry if I missed it but ideas in a retail price?
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 09-03-2012, 9:09 AM
marsh1's Avatar
marsh1 marsh1 is offline
Vendor/Retailer
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 212
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by C.W.M.V. View Post
Oh I was so hoping you would say that!
Sorry if I missed it but ideas in a retail price?
We hope to have it in at least one scope by the end of the year. Too soon for exact details and pricing.
__________________
Marshall Lerner
CEO Primary Arms, LLC
Proud to be a Calguns sponsor!!
Contact me at: Marshall@Primaryarms.com
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 09-04-2012, 7:29 AM
Mikelarry Mikelarry is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 219
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

What scope will you put out first?
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 09-04-2012, 8:32 AM
FMJBT's Avatar
FMJBT FMJBT is online now
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Los Alamos, NM
Posts: 4,604
iTrader: 16 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PrimaryArms View Post
We were thinking 4x14 FFP we plan on having it in various scopes

Dimitri
My only concern with a 4-14X version would be that you might end up losing the 800 and possibly 700 yard holdover marks out of the field of view when at max magnification. Also, it may end up being kind of heavy as most 4-14X FFP scopes currently available are well above 20 ounces. IMHO, this reticle design in something lighter and more compact than a full sized FFP scope, but still having more magnification than an ACOG (Max power of 8-10X) would be IDEAL.
__________________
U.S. Navy (Retired) 1994-2015
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 09-04-2012, 9:27 AM
PrimaryArms's Avatar
PrimaryArms PrimaryArms is offline
Vendor/Retailer
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,601
iTrader: 6 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikelarry View Post
What scope will you put out first?
We are looking at 6x straight through and a prism 5x that will follow.

Dimitri
__________________
www.primaryarms.com
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 09-04-2012, 9:35 AM
PrimaryArms's Avatar
PrimaryArms PrimaryArms is offline
Vendor/Retailer
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,601
iTrader: 6 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by FMJBT View Post
My only concern with a 4-14X version would be that you might end up losing the 800 and possibly 700 yard holdover marks out of the field of view when at max magnification. Also, it may end up being kind of heavy as most 4-14X FFP scopes currently available are well above 20 ounces. IMHO, this reticle design in something lighter and more compact than a full sized FFP scope, but still having more magnification than an ACOG (Max power of 8-10X) would be IDEAL.
We have not decided yet thank you for your suggestions.

I can tell you guys as the designer of the reticle when we tested it performed better then expected at 700 yards I could keep all 5 rounds rapid fire (m193)on a 18"x36" target even in windy conditions. The ranging portion is dead on and we were able to confirm with range finder.

Dimitri
__________________
www.primaryarms.com

Last edited by PrimaryArms; 09-04-2012 at 10:45 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 09-04-2012, 4:08 PM
MrPlink's Avatar
MrPlink MrPlink is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Portland / East Bay
Posts: 12,537
iTrader: 8 / 100%
Default

The attached photo of the ret is illuminated amber, is this true of expected production models also?

Fwiw, I would prefer red or green.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 09-04-2012, 5:14 PM
PrimaryArms's Avatar
PrimaryArms PrimaryArms is offline
Vendor/Retailer
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,601
iTrader: 6 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPlink View Post
The attached photo of the ret is illuminated amber, is this true of expected production models also?

Fwiw, I would prefer red or green.
It illuminated red in the pic it just looks off because the camera. I also made sure that it has a super low setting so when in low light there is no glare and high for day
__________________
www.primaryarms.com
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 09-10-2012, 10:37 AM
HK35's Avatar
HK35 HK35 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: The OC
Posts: 734
iTrader: 25 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PrimaryArms View Post
Dimitri,

Ed Verdugo has US patents (US Pat. Nos. 7,100,320 & 7,434,345) on this type of reticle so I'm assuming you are working with him on this?
__________________
“All that is complex is not useful; all that is useful is simple.” – Mikhail Kalashnikov
"Practice does not make perfect; only perfect practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

Last edited by HK35; 09-10-2012 at 11:58 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 09-10-2012, 5:23 PM
marsh1's Avatar
marsh1 marsh1 is offline
Vendor/Retailer
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 212
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HK35 View Post
Dimitri,

Ed Verdugo has US patents (US Pat. Nos. 7,100,320 & 7,434,345) on this type of reticle so I'm assuming you are working with him on this?
I am familiar with that reticule. Many companies use a similar "style". The specifics of ours is patent pending and does not violate any patent.

Marshall
__________________
Marshall Lerner
CEO Primary Arms, LLC
Proud to be a Calguns sponsor!!
Contact me at: Marshall@Primaryarms.com

Last edited by marsh1; 09-10-2012 at 5:29 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 09-11-2012, 8:29 AM
HK35's Avatar
HK35 HK35 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: The OC
Posts: 734
iTrader: 25 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by marsh1 View Post
I am familiar with that reticule. Many companies use a similar "style". The specifics of ours is patent pending and does not violate any patent.

Marshall
Sir:

I haven't looked into the patent claims closely but just because others are using a similar pattern does not mean they are not infringing on those patents or that your pattern, as a whole, is patentable does not mean you have FTO. So I would get a written FTO Opinion from your counsel to make sure.

Just my 2c!

BTW, when are your micro RDSs coming back in stock?
__________________
“All that is complex is not useful; all that is useful is simple.” – Mikhail Kalashnikov
"Practice does not make perfect; only perfect practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

Last edited by HK35; 09-11-2012 at 8:31 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 09-11-2012, 11:32 AM
Mikelarry Mikelarry is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 219
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HK35 View Post
Dimitri,

Ed Verdugo has US patents (US Pat. Nos. 7,100,320 & 7,434,345) on this type of reticle so I'm assuming you are working with him on this?
They look nothing a like!
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 09-16-2012, 10:51 AM
BigAssWhiteBoy BigAssWhiteBoy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 106
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

I read the claims and there is no patent violation that I can see. I think we can all agree the PA reticle is in a league of its own
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 09-19-2012, 4:23 PM
CHOPCHOP CHOPCHOP is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 60
iTrader: 2 / 100%
Default

Looks nice! Cant wait for the 5x
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 09-19-2012, 9:45 PM
PrimaryArms's Avatar
PrimaryArms PrimaryArms is offline
Vendor/Retailer
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,601
iTrader: 6 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHOPCHOP View Post
Looks nice! Cant wait for the 5x
Will not be long!
__________________
www.primaryarms.com
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 09-30-2012, 2:18 PM
C.W.M.V.'s Avatar
C.W.M.V. C.W.M.V. is online now
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,174
iTrader: 15 / 100%
Default

Ive got a 7.62x39 upper on the way and need an optic!
help me out here!
__________________
7.62x39 AR Upper/Pistol upper and LMT Superbolts!
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1230174
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 09-30-2012, 10:14 PM
PrimaryArms's Avatar
PrimaryArms PrimaryArms is offline
Vendor/Retailer
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,601
iTrader: 6 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by C.W.M.V. View Post
Ive got a 7.62x39 upper on the way and need an optic!
help me out here!
The 7.62x39 will follow

Dimitri
__________________
www.primaryarms.com
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 10-02-2012, 5:24 PM
JackRydden224's Avatar
JackRydden224 JackRydden224 is offline
Single stack pistol guy
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Irvine
Posts: 6,592
iTrader: 73 / 100%
Default

If this is going to work with the Russian 5.45 mount may I suggest a package with the scope and mount for the AK people?
__________________
w210838 is the barrel guy don't forget.

Quote:
Originally Posted by HopetonBrown View Post
The average Calgunner is afraid to scratch his gun; so I don't see the point to these torture tests.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 7:53 PM.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Proudly hosted by GeoVario the Premier 2A host.
Calguns.net, the 'Calguns' name and all associated variants and logos are ® Trademark and © Copyright 2002-2016, Calguns.net an Incorporated Company All Rights Reserved.