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Old 07-06-2012, 11:06 AM
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A featureless with a nod to the 60's. MM grip, 30 round pre-ban magazine repair kit, triangle hand guard in carbine length, A2 stock, hand-grip rear sight, 16" barrel. This one is sweet to shoot!

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MM, how does that hammerhead grip work for you? I have been told it doesn't work very well for folks with big hands due to the spacing between the grip and buffer tube. It looks like enough space but I thought I would ask.
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Old 07-06-2012, 11:34 AM
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MM, how does that hammerhead grip work for you? I have been told it doesn't work very well for folks with big hands due to the spacing between the grip and buffer tube. It looks like enough space but I thought I would ask.
i have largish hands, and i just put it together yesterday so i haven't shot it yet.

When holding it and dry-firing, it seems to feel OK with my thumb over, but the rear of the receiver/buffer tube castle nut bites into my web a little bit.



a more comfortable grip so far seems to more of an underhand-forward grip (probably more like would be found on a grip fin).



note: weapon was cleared, finger on trigger to demonstrate grip

i think I can do OK with either, and granted neither are as comfortable as the standard pistol grip.....

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When holding it and dry-firing, it seems to feel OK with my thumb over, but the rear of the receiver/buffer tube castle nut bites into my web a little bit.
It sounds like you may be using what we call the "choke hold." A more relaxed wooden-rifle style hold would be more comfortable, and is the recommended hold for most shooters, especially those with larger hands. Be sure to check out our handling link for photos and descriptions of the two types of hold.


Recommended relaxed hold -- note web of the trigger hand does not contact the rear of the receiver
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i have largish hands, and i just put it together yesterday so i haven't shot it yet.

When holding it and dry-firing, it seems to feel OK with my thumb over, but the rear of the receiver/buffer tube castle nut bites into my web a little bit.

a more comfortable grip so far seems to more of an underhand-forward grip (probably more like would be found on a grip fin).

i think I can do OK with either, and granted neither are as comfortable as the standard pistol grip.....

droppin mags is fun
Thanks, I figured you would be a good one to ask. I thought you might have about the same sized hands as I do as I remember from the FS shotgun classes I had with you. Still liked the night roadflare shooting!
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Thanks, I figured you would be a good one to ask. I thought you might have about the same sized hands as I do as I remember from the FS shotgun classes I had with you. Still liked the night roadflare shooting!
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Thanks, I figured you would be a good one to ask. I thought you might have about the same sized hands as I do as I remember from the FS shotgun classes I had with you. Still liked the night roadflare shooting!
i never took any shotgun classes...lol

there's another member here with a similar name.

but i do also have largish hands lol
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i never took any shotgun classes...lol

there's another member here with a similar name.

but i do also have largish hands lol
Ooops. Thanks.
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It sounds like you may be using what we call the "choke hold." A more relaxed wooden-rifle style hold would be more comfortable, and is the recommended hold for most shooters, especially those with larger hands. Be sure to check out our handling link for photos and descriptions of the two types of hold.


Recommended relaxed hold -- note web of the trigger hand does not contact the rear of the receiver
thanks for the link. i also would like to comment that your blemish wasn't really blemished at all...it was just a weird shade of tan.

arrived quickly and was very pleased with the product.

Second time that I've ordered from you guys, and second time i've been a happy customer.

Anyway, in regards to the holds....i will try out the relaxed hold. My setup is a little different since i'm not attaching the stock to the grip, but we'll see what happens.
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This is probably a dumb question but I am extremely new to the AR world having mine for only about a month now. If this new law takes effect, what do I do to make my AR a featureless one?
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Thanks for the last few posts. That really helps me understand the issue. I should have thought to look at the Exile Machine site first. I like Exile Machine and have always had good experiences with them. This is just another example of a higher level of service.
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This is probably a dumb question but I am extremely new to the AR world having mine for only about a month now. If this new law takes effect, what do I do to make my AR a featureless one?

if you just bought a new AR, then it shouldn't be named, so just make sure it conforms to the following standards and does not have any of the following "features":

12276.1 (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:

A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
A thumbhole stock.
A folding or telescoping stock.
A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
A flash suppressor.
A forward pistol grip.

A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.

So if you have a typical over-the-counter BB-AR, you need to do the following:

Remove flash hider - replace with a real muzzlebrake or compensator or nothing (i opted for thread protector, which is pretty much nothing) check here for risk factors: https://sites.google.com/site/featur...muzzle-devices
Fixed stock - get an A2 stock or similar fixed stock, or pin your adjustable stock to become fixed.
Remove pistol grip - replace with Hammerhead, monsterman, solar tactical, home made grip fin etc. I opted to the hammerhead because it has a letter to the DOJ saying its not a PG.
Remove Forward Pistol Grip if you have one, and any other features in bold.

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if you just bought a new AR, then it shouldn't be named, so just make sure it conforms to the following standards and does not have any of the following "features":

12276.1 (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:

A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
A thumbhole stock.
A folding or telescoping stock.
A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
A flash suppressor.
A forward pistol grip.

A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.
It is an off the shelf carbine with a bb. So I'm assuming I would have to replaced the upper with a barrel that has no flash supressor and the grip with say a monsterman?
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Old 07-06-2012, 1:22 PM
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It is an off the shelf carbine with a bb. So I'm assuming I would have to replaced the upper with a barrel that has no flash supressor and the grip with say a monsterman?
you probably don't have to replace the whole upper (unless its a 14.5" pinned flash hider....that takes more work)

i spent a total of $30 to turn my over the counter M&P15 Sport featureless:

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Yankee Hill Machine Thread Protector
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DPMS Magazine Release Button
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http://www.midwayusa.com/product/767...5-lr-308-matte

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Old 07-06-2012, 1:42 PM
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you probably don't have to replace the whole upper (unless its a 14.5" pinned flash hider....that takes more work)

i spent a total of $30 to turn my over the counter M&P15 Sport featureless:

Blemished exile machine hammerhead
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https://www.exilemachine.net/shop/ex...ished-285.html

Yankee Hill Machine Thread Protector
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http://www.midwayusa.com/product/181...el-steel-black


Hey thanks for the info. One more stupid question if I may? Are threaded barrels legal? LOL! This is quite frustrating . Mine is not pinned I just threaded the flash suppressor right off.
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Hey thanks for the info. One more stupid question if I may? Are threaded barrels legal? LOL! This is quite frustrating . Mine is not pinned I just threaded the flash suppressor right off.
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Hey thanks for the info. One more stupid question if I may? Are threaded barrels legal? LOL! This is quite frustrating . Mine is not pinned I just threaded the flash suppressor right off.
Threaded barrels are only illegal on handguns.
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ok. thanks for all your help Mossy Man. Much appreciated
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I've been drooling over this thread for the past year. Finally took the BB off my WASR 10/63 and am now ready to drop mags like i'm rich. Enjoy...





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My WASR with ST F.A.S.T. Series Compensator and kydex wrap over SAW style grip


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I've been drooling over this thread for the past year. Finally took the BB off my WASR 10/63 and am now ready to drop mags like i'm rich. Enjoy...





That is wicked. Did you build or buy?
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Thanks for the love Blap. Bought the WASR off my buddy. Came with 2X30 round mags, bayonet, and the original wood furniture. Slapped on a Hogue grip covered with a solar tactical kydex grip wrap. The wraps come in lefty or righty. The pictures don't show the recess for the palm. Very comfortable. The foregrip is a GMG 2 piece aluminum quad rail. Wouldn't recommend it unless you would like to put about 4 hours of work grinding out the top piece to fit around the gas tube. However once it fits it's solid as a rock. RPB Industries Krinkov stock is nice and light weight. Not much padding against the shoulder, but there isn't much recoil to this black beauty anyway. Soft plastic rail covers is more comfortable than holding the aluminum while firing. Need to spray them a flat black to finish the "evil" black look.
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trying out the featureless







I had a cheap muzzle brake for it but the 3rd thread in it was flat / messed up so it was damaging my barrel threads so had to leave it off for now. I got this lower in a 3 gun shoot in Lincoln, CA this year felt it would make a great featureless ar.
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Here is my contribution.



Bcm 16" mid length upper.
Bcm bcg
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Got my scope and short stock in today. It's getting a new camo job soon too.


With the old pinned stock. I'll see how I like the new stock, I may go back.
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That's interesting. Wonder how it was made. Seems like it would be cool to make it shaped a little more like the H&K stock on someone's rifle a couple posts up. Kinda more angular and squared off.
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My indoor training rifle with GripShield© on a Pearce 1911 AR style grip.







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Not 100% done yet. Gonna go back and forth between the Hammerhead and the wrap until one of them wins me over.

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