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Exclamation SB249 passes out of Assm Public Saftey and will move to Assm. Appropriations Committe

SB249 passes out of Assm Public Saftey and will move to Assm. Appropriations Committee.


Listen to Pub. Safety Committee hearing on #SB249 at 9 a.m. tomorrow (Tues 7/3) at mms://media.assembly.ca.gov/​ASM-126[/COLOR][/SIZE][/I][/B]


STOP SB 249 - CRUNCH TIME[/COLOR][/SIZE][/I][/B][/CENTER]

Here is the deal everyone, July 3rd is the vote date, we need to get this out to everyone. Everyone you need to get the message sent out!

Crunch Time Folks "Send the MESSAGE - NO to SB 249, NO to Sen Yee"

Tuesday July 3rd is the date for the vote, WE NEED TO SEND A MESSAGE!

We Need To Contact each member of the state Assembly Committee on Public Safety, Below is the NRA One Click, Email them, Call them, Fax them. Get out there and Make Your Thoughts Known!

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http://www.nramemberscouncils.com/le...ubsafety.shtml
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SB 249 is expected to be heard and voted on next Tuesday, July 3 in the state Assembly Committee on Public Safety. This is also the deadline date for ALL legislation to pass or fail in the state Senate and Assembly policy committees for the 2012 legislative session. The state Assembly Committee on Public Safety needs to hear from ALL of California’s gun owners and sportsmen urging them to OPPOSE SB 249. Contact information for the Committee members can be found here. Senator Yee and his staff also need to hear from California gun owners expressing their outrage that the Senator would suggest such a bill and urge him to pull SB 249 from the agenda. Senator Yee and his staff can be reached at 916-651-4008 and by e-mail here or atSenator.Yee@senate.ca.gov.


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SB 249 is a California bill that if enacted could turn thousand and thousands of California gun owners into criminals. The proposed law would make hundreds of thousand of rifles illegal overnight, this bill must be stopped and stopped now! Your actions are key to making certain this flawed and dangerous bill never becomes state law.

Here's how YOU can help now:

Sign the "Stop SB 249 Petition." But don't stop there, after signing it, share it and have all your friends and family sign it also!

Download and print out the STOP SB 249 info flyer. The flyer is in PDF for so you can easily print it out and email.

Send Emails to the Assembly Public Safety Committee Members

Contact the bill's author:
Sen. Yee
Capitol Office: State Capitol, Room 4074Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916) 651-4008

San Francisco Office: 455 Golden Gate Avenue, Suite 14200, San Francisco, CA 94102
Phone: (415) 557-7857

San Mateo Office: 400 South El Camino Real, Suite 630, San Mateo, CA 94402
Phone: (650) 340-8840

Much more information is available at STOP SB 249.


Thank you!

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Updated Info: 06/22/2012 - SB 249 began its travel through the legislative process this year as an agricultural bill. On May 22, after the time for introduction of new bills had passed, SB 249 was completely re-written (gutted and amended) into a bill that now proposes to restrict magazine release components in semi-auto firearms. The bill suddenly changed into its new form following a CBS news story focusing on some semi-automatic firearms.

NRA's concerns regarding SB 249 include the fact that it would make it illegal to possess parts for magazine releases on most semi-auto firearms with detachable magazines.

After NRA explained our concerns about SB249, Senator Yee stated that he would not "move" this severely flawed legislation. However, two members of his staff, Adam Keigwin and Johannes Rognerud decided to proceed with the bill and now the SB249 is in the Assembly Public Safety Committee. To reach these staff members for Senator Yee, call (916) 651-4008.

There are hundreds of thousands of firearms that could be impacted by SB 249, firearms that are currently legally owned and enjoyed by California residents. SB 249 could potentially make criminals out of law-abiding citizens.

The bill has been referred from the Assembly Rules Committee to the Assembly Public Safety Committee and will most likely be heard on July 3. Both the CRPA and NRA are working to stop this bill; please use your power as a law-abiding voter of California to voice your opposition to SB 249 and help to defeat it immediately!

Please make sure to contact ALL of the legislators on the Assembly Public Safety Committee and ask them to OPPOSE this unreasonable bill. Don't hesitate to use the NRA One-Click system to contact all of the members of the Assembly Public Safety Committee.
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Very Awesome. Thank you
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I saw the flyer at Warrior One and signed up as soon as i got home. I will pass it around to coworkers tomorrow.
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reminder:

Hi
We need to stop this bill! Please print out flyers and get them to your ranges, gun shops, friends, clubs, anything.
We need to get the information out and gets this stopped!

website link to STOP SB 249: http://stopsb249.org/

print outs for STOP SB 249: http://stopsb249.org/downloads-info-sheets/

take action against STOP SB 249: http://stopsb249.org/take-action/

Please DONATE: http://stopsb249.org/donate-to-stopsb249-org/

Thx jacob
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done and dont stop til its dead in the water calguns.....
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I have signed, liked, shared, e-mailed, called, and I will donate on Friday when I get paid. Sorry for the delay in the financial aspect, but times are a little difficult at the moment.
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I signed it,emailed and called also. I am letting others know about (BS)249.
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Awesome Thank you
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I text it to all my shooting buddy's in my phone I also emailed Tom (gun talk) to get it out in the news,
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I probably got about 20 signatures from friends,families, and coworkers so far.
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I'm going to take the flyers down to Sac Valley in the morning when I stop by there for some fun with my "converted AW."
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Glad that the word is getting out, I have emailed the link to the petition to all my friends and family, so far only 2 confirmed signatures other than my own. Was pleasantly surprised when I walked into Warrior One in Riverside this morning to do a transfer and they had flyers and were informing customers about the legislation within their store. I am still amazed that with how many members this forum has alone the petition does not have the 15K signatures needed yet. CA gun owners need to wake up and pay attention to the constant barrage of anti-2A legislation this state is always trying to jam down our throats.
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Excellent Work Everyone, Thank You
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I've been gone awhile from this forum and wow have things gotten silly in California again. SB 249 I signed the petitions and I am getting the word out to friends. I wrote Senator Leland Yee four times. Keep in mind that his staff may only read from people in his district 8. I have several email addresses and were able to use district 8 street addresses with the right zip codes. My message was plain and simple. Why punish or harass law abiding citizens from possessing or owning (In my case) Ar-15's with bullet buttons. I went on to explain how this bill will have no effect on criminals who want to carry out gun violence and such. I do agree with Chuck that the real goal of some in the State legislature is to make owning any kind of a firearm in California such a hinderance to possess that many will opt out all together.

I know a lot of people say there gonna move out of California for various reasons, but this is the last straw for me.
Same here. This is the line in the sand that I drew. They try to take away my AR-15 I cannot continue to live in this state and pay tax money to a government that wants to do nothing but take away my rights and freedom. If this abomination passes I will be moving to AZ or NV very soon after.
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I text it to all my shooting buddy's in my phone I also emailed Tom (gun talk) to get it out in the news,
Great work! The post on my face book fan page has gotten some attention. I think it's up to 12-13 signataures from the post. Every little bit helps.
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you bet it does, thx!
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iv had up to 5 friends sign the petition. getting more soon
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I bought two AR 15 two months ago and it is all legal according to California DOJ. Is that mean, if SB 249 pass, are they going to take my AR guns?
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I bought two AR 15 two months ago and it is all legal according to California DOJ. Is that mean, if SB 249 pass, are they going to take my AR guns?
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Thus, a “conversion kit” can conceivably include any of the following:

A magazine locking device accessory that converts a firearm with a nondetachable magazine” into a firearm with a “detachable magazine;”
A detachable magazine kit, OEM or aftermarket;
A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;
A thumbhole stock;
A folding;
A telescoping stock;
A grenade launcher;
A flare launcher;
A flash suppressor;
A forward pistol grip;
A large capacity magazine;
A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;
A second and grip;
A shroud that is not attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel;
A firearm with any of the above referenced items affixed in a manner that they cannot be removed;
A firearm with the capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip;
A firearm receiver;
Any other part used in an “assault weapon.”

Thus, possession, importation, selling, of any combination of the above referenced “parts” could cause someone to be arrested and defend oneself against allegations that they intended to convert a firearm into an “assault weapon.”
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iv had up to 5 friends sign the petition. getting more soon
From me to you...Thank you!

I think we have got 15 to sign now.

We can do this guys...
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Thank You Everyone lets keep it up
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Would it make AR15's with Bullet buttons illegal from now on if it passes. Would we have to register our AR15's we bought previous to the bill being passed or would they just be Illegal period?
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Read my post that is two posts above yours.
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Yes. Sen. Yee wants to make it all illegal and put us in jail for being citizens
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I did, I did, all of the above.

However, I am the jerk that just clicked on the "No" to shock a few, as a reminder that inevitably, there will be plenty of gun owners out there that DON'T do a thing about this, and are so apathetic about their 2nd Amendment rights, they either will sit on their hands, and won't hear about this at all, and simply do nothing until after it is dead (or possibly worse, it becomes a law?).

And if it becomes law, only THEN they will be complaining about it, saying "How or when did that happen?"

Good luck to all, and keep spreading the importance of this... especially to the apathetic.
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agreed entirely, did u know less then 30% of the colonial population fought for independence
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Some say calling works best but remember speek like a responsible patriot even if your an angry warrior.


Here’s all of Yee’s office addresses and phone numbers:Capitol OfficeState Capitol, Room 4074Sacramento, CA 95814Phone: (916) 651-4008San Francisco Office455 Golden Gate Avenue,Suite 14200San Francisco, CA 94102Phone: (415) 557-7857San Mateo Office400 South El Camino Real,Suite 630San Mateo, CA 94402Phone: (650) 340-8840Read more at Ammoland.com:*http://www.ammoland.com/2012/06/21/h...#ixzz1zFdRQJTt
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Adding it to the top. Thank you!
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Trying to get the word out via facebook as much as I can. I think a few of my friends have signed and shared. Working on getting more. If I had extra $, I'd donate some, but nothing is extra at the moment.
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excellent Thank You
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EVERYONE! Using the NRA link it's incredibly easy to email the committee members. Just click on the name and it will open up a pre-addressed email using your email client. Paste in your personal message, send, repeat 6 times. Once you have your message composed actually emailing them only takes a minute or two - for something this important - it couldn't be easier!

There is no excuse not to email them all - and follow it up with a fax and phone call.

Make them realize that there are active voters paying attention!

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Folks while you are discussing your points, make sure you have emailed, faxed, called, facebooked, twittered everyone involved.

GO AFTER THEM! MAKE YOUR POINT KNOWN!

Click the link and make yourself known.
http://www.nramemberscouncils.com/le...ubsafety.shtml

Adam Keigwin and Johannes Rognerud decided to proceed with the bill and now the SB249 is in the Assembly Public Safety Committee. To reach these staff members for Senator Yee, call (916) 651-4008.

Adam Keigwin he is on twitter go after him!
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FWIW, in addition to the automated write-in tools, I sent this personal note to one of the members:
I am a law-abiding citizen living in and contributing to the growth and success of the technology industry here in the Silicon Valley for the past 25 years. During that time, I've sadly seen the degradation of our school system - both public and college/university, reduction in funding and support for police and firefighters, and dramatic cuts in the support of the poor and needy. At the same time I've happily seen a general reduction in crime, particularly weapons-related illegal activities, all post the expiration of the assault weapons ban last decade.
The latest focus on SB249 seems like another misuse of our lawmakers time, and the unnecessary focus on a part of the population that requires no further laws or limitations. Despite an ongoing reduction of crimes involving those guns defined as assault weapons, those unlawful part of the population who may make use of such weapons will not heed changes defined in the bill. For those who are law-abiding owners, there surely are no concerns about their behavior and this imposes yet more limits on their constitutionally defined rights, all while it takes the focus away from the priorities I cited (above) to which Assemblyman Yee and his peers like yourself should attend.
This seems like more distraction of out citizens while our problems of education, budget and police and firefighter funding continues, furthering the unconstitutional limitations on our law abiding citizens, and a solution to an issue that simply does not exist.
Please vote no on SB249.
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FWIW, in addition to the automated write-in tools, I sent this personal note to one of the members:
I am a law-abiding citizen living in and contributing to the growth and success of the technology industry here in the Silicon Valley for the past 25 years. During that time, I've sadly seen the degradation of our school system - both public and college/university, reduction in funding and support for police and firefighters, and dramatic cuts in the support of the poor and needy. At the same time I've happily seen a general reduction in crime, particularly weapons-related illegal activities, all post the expiration of the assault weapons ban last decade.
The latest focus on SB249 seems like another misuse of our lawmakers time, and the unnecessary focus on a part of the population that requires no further laws or limitations. Despite an ongoing reduction of crimes involving those guns defined as assault weapons, those unlawful part of the population who may make use of such weapons will not heed changes defined in the bill. For those who are law-abiding owners, there surely are no concerns about their behavior and this imposes yet more limits on their constitutionally defined rights, all while it takes the focus away from the priorities I cited (above) to which Assemblyman Yee and his peers like yourself should attend.
This seems like more distraction of out citizens while our problems of education, budget and police and firefighter funding continues, furthering the unconstitutional limitations on our law abiding citizens, and a solution to an issue that simply does not exist.
Please vote no on SB249.
Great missive! I also mentioned a few of the financial impacts in my letter. The cost to implement, the cost to enforce, and the inevitable financial burden to litigate - especially when they lose in court.

Everyone - your email doesn't need to be long winded or cover every aspect of this proposed law, you just need to let them know how it will impact responsible gun owners, or how it will waste limited state funds, or how it's an answer to a non existent question. Just write and let 'em know you're paying attention and this is a bad law!
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Here’s all of Yee’s office addresses and phone numbers:Capitol OfficeState Capitol, Room 4074Sacramento, CA 95814Phone: (916) 651-4008San Francisco Office455 Golden Gate Avenue,Suite 14200San Francisco, CA 94102Phone: (415) 557-7857San Mateo Office400 South El Camino Real,Suite 630San Mateo, CA 94402Phone: (650) 340-8840Read more at Ammoland.com:*http://www.ammoland.com/2012/06/21/h...#ixzz1zFdRQJTt
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I worked in the inner office (governor's) many moons ago and every single letter was read and sorted according to:

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what would happen if this passes? what Rights will we loose?
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what would happen if this passes? what Rights will we loose?
I don't want to find out the hard way, this is the main reason I like featureless builds. Not that makes it any better for the rest of our law abiding brothers and sisters of calguns

Petition signed.
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the PDF link was down, anyone have a copy?

I'd rather bomb their fax machines than email
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