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Old 05-06-2012, 11:21 PM
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Default Random Q: Illegal Concealment?

so, since a stripped lower is the "firearm" if i were to stick it in my pocket after picking it up from my FFL and walk out... would that be illegal concealment of a firearm?

just wondering out loud. thx
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Old 05-06-2012, 11:36 PM
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One would hope that common sense prevail...but it would make for a interesting test case.
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A pistol lower would have to be transported like any other pistol = Locked Container
A rifle lower can be transported like any other rifle = Concealed OK
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Old 05-07-2012, 7:50 AM
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One would hope that common sense prevail.
In California? Ha.
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what if you set a loaded mag in the magwell?
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that would be a case it seems they would have no choice but to claim a stripped lower is a pistol
I say they'd have to because (based on the mentality of the powers that be) they would absolutely try everything they could to make it a concealed pistol. so they can make it a felony (somehow) and deny your gun rights in the end

on the other note, if I recall correctly, loaded is defined as 'in a position to fire' or 'ready position', so, on that note, a loaded mag in a stripped lower, would not be in a position to fire, so, logically it would simply be a loaded magazine.

it would be an interesting case

all of the above statement is simply thinking out loud, and not to be construed as advise in any form
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We should have someone with nothing to loose get caught so we can argue in court how bad some of the BS-commie laws are here.
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that would be a case it seems they would have no choice but to claim a stripped lower is a pistol
I say they'd have to because (based on the mentality of the powers that be) they would absolutely try everything they could to make it a concealed pistol. so they can make it a felony (somehow) and deny your gun rights in the end

on the other note, if I recall correctly, loaded is defined as 'in a position to fire' or 'ready position', so, on that note, a loaded mag in a stripped lower, would not be in a position to fire, so, logically it would simply be a loaded magazine.

it would be an interesting case

all of the above statement is simply thinking out loud, and not to be construed as advise in any form

wow thats hilarious get them to deem a stripped lower a pistol through a misdemeanor conviction

hmm then when its all over could you legally build it into a pistol even if it was drosed as a long gun
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hmm then when its all over could you legally build it into a pistol even if it was drosed as a long gun
per my understanding.. you can build a pistol lower to a rifle... but not the other way around. being DROSd as a long gun... you would be manufacturing an SBR..
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Thanks for thinking out loud with me gents!
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In California, if it were DROSed as anything but a handgun, you could not be charged with illegal concealment as only handguns and AOWs meet the definition of being concealable upon the person.

School zones are different however.

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per my understanding.. you can build a pistol lower to a rifle... but not the other way around. being DROSd as a long gun... you would be manufacturing an SBR..
that is one hypothesis a rifle is a long gun but a long gun is not a rifle it is many different types but that is besides the point

if you are convicted for carrying a concealed firearm then it would have to be a pistol
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In California, if it were DROSed as anything but a handgun, you could not be charged with illegal concealment as only handguns and AOWs meet the definition of being concealable upon the person.

School zones are different however.

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