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Old 03-31-2012, 8:48 AM
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They're both basically the same. If I'm not mistaken, they both use Daniel Defense components.

I was in the same boat as you, I went with Riflegear. Another plus is RG includes a BCG and CH.
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If you want to support someone local, go RifleGear. Their uppers are very good and have all the features that a BCM does.
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Between those two I'd chose the least expensive one and call it a day. Practical wise, your not going to see a difference on your target.
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BCM will allow you to be an elitist and talk crap on other manufacturers and their customers. That alone is worth it.
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If you want to support a CA shop, then go with the RifleGear upper. It's a relabled Daniel Defense upper. Good to go!
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They're both basically the same. If I'm not mistaken, they both use Daniel Defense components.

I was in the same boat as you, I went with Riflegear. Another plus is RG includes a BCG and CH.
BCM uses there own componets and have stated on this site as such.

As for which one to choose well who has the better rep? Who can get it to you the fastest? How much "extra" stuff do you get with either? I like BCM and respect Rife Gear but I have not heard much about there uppers.
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I've ordered from riflegear a few times and they're a great shop, but why take a gamble (on what may very well be a quality product) when you can go with something with a proven track record (BCM, DD, LaRue, LMT, Colt)?

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For the set up I want, both are practically equal in price with BCM slightly more expensive. And both are very similar in technical specs.
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I've ordered from riflegear a few times and they're a great shop, but why take a gamble (on what may very well be a quality product) when you can go with something with a proven track record (BCM, DD, LaRue, LMT, Colt)?
RifleGear uppers = DD uppers in "disguise"

To the OP, toss a coin. Either one are GTG.

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RifleGear uppers = DD uppers in "disguise"

To the OP, toss a coin. Either one are GTG.
How does everyone know that the RG uppers are DD uppers in disguise, especially at $50 cheaper? Any evidence?
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Lol true.
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How does everyone know that the RG uppers are DD uppers in disguise, especially at $50 cheaper? Any evidence?
My brother bought two of them. Both came in Daniel Defense boxes. Besides, I think it's pretty well known around here that they are made by Daniel Defense.
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BCM and DD are no longer the only fair haired children. PSA has swept in, Spikes has a tactical model and Colt is now sold in Kali. Rifegear is a great vendor.
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I don't consider myself a BCM fanboy, after all it's all I have owned and I know there are other great brands out there that I haven't tried. So, all I can say is my BCM upper is great, it was shipped the next day, and it has a great fit and finish. That leads me to say I don't think you can go wrong with BCM, but I am sure the riflegear one is good too.
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BCM will allow you to be an elitist and talk crap on other manufacturers and their customers. That alone is worth it.
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I'd go with BCM. It has a hell of a track record.
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My brother bought two of them. Both came in Daniel Defense boxes. Besides, I think it's pretty well known around here that they are made by Daniel Defense.
Interesting, I had no idea but very good to know. At $50 cheaper it's a steal if they're CHF.
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Seriously uncalled for.
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Riflegear. I have one and it is excellent
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I went with a BCM upper and a Riflegear aggressor lower. I love the way my upper is set up and the Riflegear lower is finished very nicely as well, plus i'm helping to support a great California run buisness.

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-1...g-mid-14lw.htm

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Again, flip a coin. I have several BCM uppers and one RG upper. The round count total for all the rifles is easily approaching 15-17k. I have not had any issues with any of the uppers that wasn't ammo related (I changed a few extractor springs, that's it).
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BCM comes with a cool hat.
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and lots of stickers and a poster. I must admit, I do like the BCM upper that came with my hat.
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For the set up I want, both are practically equal in price with BCM slightly more expensive. And both are very similar in technical specs.

I've only handled a Riflegear upper so it's a matter of fit and finish, machining, etc.

I want to support locals, but am willing to shop abroad if I can find a better product.

Which one?
Local or other.

I vote against BCM because they can't shoot steel cased without short stroking thanks to the mil spec gas port.
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Local or other.

I vote against BCM because they can't shoot steel cased without short stroking thanks to the mil spec gas port.
BS! My BCM 14.5" with BC1.5 mid length gas will shoot steel case just fine when I'm using a carbine buffer.
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How does everyone know that the RG uppers are DD uppers in disguise, especially at $50 cheaper? Any evidence?
What evidence would you like? You can take a look at the barrel roll mark for one thing. We don't hide who makes our complete upper groups, barrels, upper receivers, and BCG's, which seems to be such a big deal for some vendors Do you guys think BCM is actually manufacturing their own barrels?

Our uppers have been on the market for a few years now and I think the positive feedback from those that have bought them should be enough evidence that they are "proven". We may not have the marketing focus behind our uppers like some companies do, but manufacturing is not our main focus. We are more of a multi-brand retailer first, who just happens to have some nice "store-brand" uppers and lowers available as well.
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BS! My BCM 14.5" with BC1.5 mid length gas will shoot steel case just fine when I'm using a carbine buffer.
No BS here.

I sold a 20" bcm upper that would short stroke every time on the range a couple times.
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Cant go wrong with either. I have 2 BCM's Love them, fit and finish is fantastic. They shoot great also. Ive had Delton, and Stags as well. Whatever you choose im sure you will be happy.

I dont get all the BS that comes with getting a BCM product???

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I have one of each. My RG is a 14.5 mid with 2k +/- 193 thru it with zero issues. The bcm is a 16" mid but since it's new to me lil less than 500 rds downrange
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I have one of each. My RG is a 14.5 mid with 2k +/- 193 thru it with zero issues. The bcm is a 16" mid but since it's new to me lil less than 500 rds downrange, also zero issues. Fit and finish of both are great, both sport c4 rails. To be honest the mystique of having the bcm logo is pure fanboyism to me, and since the upper is new the giddiness has yet to wear off. But honestly can't say it offers any tangible benefit to me over my RG.
Haven't tried steel case in either yet, but plan to soon after breaking in the bcm a bit more.
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BCM uses there own componets and have stated on this site as such.

As for which one to choose well who has the better rep? Who can get it to you the fastest? How much "extra" stuff do you get with either? I like BCM and respect Rife Gear but I have not heard much about there uppers.
They do not make their barrels, and refuse to state who does, so, politely, a misguided pst. They do provide a quality assembly service though

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