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Old 01-12-2012, 3:18 PM
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Default Help me compare .308's

Savage 10 FCP-SR vs FN SPR

I know there are tons of help me thread, but I know very little about what to look for in a bolt action...I really like the 10 round box mag, and adjustable trigger, but I hear the FN is a helluva rifle, very accurate. Suggestion? What would you go with?

What I could find on the Savage.

Savage 10 FCP-SR, see specs below.
Sku: 19480
Caliber: 308 WIN
Handed: Right
Rate of Twist: 10
Weight: 8.75 lbs
Overall Length: 44.25"
Barrel Length: 24"
Ammo Capacity: 10

Featuring 24" fluted heavy threaded barrel, beavertail brown digital camo AccuStock, AccuTrigger, 10 round detachable box magazine, and a 1-piece Picitinny rail.

FN-SPR
RECEIVER

- Forged steel construction with flat bottom profile
Short magnum action length

- External claw extractor with Controlled Round Feeding

- Blade ejection

- Integral recoil lug

- One-piece steel MIL-STD 1913 optics rail with an additional 20 MOA elevation built in


BARREL

- Hammer-forged free-floating barrel

- Chrome-lined bore

- Target crown

STOCK

- McMillan fiberglass tactical stock

- A5M models are fully adjustable for length of pull and comb height

- Textured gripping surfaces

- Multiple steel sling swivel studs or sling mounting points


OPERATING CONTROLS

- Model 70-type two-lever adjustable trigger

- Three-position safety

- Knurled bolt handle

MAGAZINE
- Hinged floorplate magazine (FLP) or detachable box magazine (DBM)
Twist Rate: 1 in 12" RH

- Weight: 11.3lbs Actual weight 10lbs 2 ounces.

- Overall Length: 40

- Magazine Capacity: 4-rounds, with detachable box magazine (DBM)

FN guarantees at least .5-MOA accuracy with this rifle...
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Old 01-12-2012, 4:41 PM
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Me personally, FN-SPR A3-G. (model I have been looking at) 1/2 MOA @ 100 yds out of the box. Current model being delivered to the FBI as their new sniper rifle. But it is very pricy (2899.99 lowest I've seen). You could buy 2 and a 1/2 Savages for that price. If you are going the FN route, you may want to look into reloading. You would get better consistency in ammo than out of the box.

You will aslo want to buy High end Glass. Rifles in this caliber can get very expensive to feed and operate.
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Me personally, FN-SPR A3-G. (model I have been looking at) 1/2 MOA @ 100 yds out of the box. Current model being delivered to the FBI as their new sniper rifle. But it is very pricy (2899.99 lowest I've seen). You could buy 2 and a 1/2 Savages for that price. If you are going the FN route, you may want to look into reloading. You would get better consistency in ammo than out of the box.

You will aslo want to buy High end Glass. Rifles in this caliber can get very expensive to feed and operate.
It would be the A1A that I would be picking up...I may have to re-think this though. I was trying to avoid re-loading for a while, I found some stuff for .41 cents per round but probably not good stuff anyway (Brown Bear).



Also, thoughts on the longer barrel? Wouldn't the 24 inch reach out further?
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yep, fugure on spending at least a doller for every foot you want to shoot on the glass,
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yep, fugure on spending at least a doller for every foot you want to shoot on the glass,
REALLY?.....

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No...Really!!!

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I'd want a 1:10 twist for heavy bullets.
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I see what you did there!...
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I'd want a 1:10 twist for heavy bullets.
unless you're shooting 215+ gr class bullets, it's akin to 1:7 for .223
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I think I found a ten round mag for the FN, so there that...
http://www.everayla.com/index.php?ma...ducts_id=24304


Also, any issues with chrome barrels? Still trying to decide; the Savage has a threaded barrel for break or suppressor, but the FN has a target crown. advantages one over the other? I heard some competitions don't allow breaks, this true?
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Me personally, FN-SPR A3-G. (model I have been looking at) . But it is very pricy (2899.99 lowest I've seen).
Here:

http://www.knesekguns.com/commercial...-G-SPR-308-Win

And here:

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/58127-55.html
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unless you're shooting 215+ gr class bullets, it's akin to 1:7 for .223
Yes it is.
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If your heart is set on a SPR but can live w/o the 24", Turners has has the .308 20" FN SPR non fluted version with A3 Mcmillian Stock for $999.99, you can always convert it to accept AIC 10 round mags down the road
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They only named off the top 6 teams this year and told everyone else to come and ask for your placing as to not make it public. Kind of a nice thing to do in my eyes.

1. USASOC
2. Netherlands
3.10th Group
4.10th Group
5. San Diego SWAT
6. 1st Group


Teams and Weapons. 32 Teams

USASOC: 2x M110 w ACS stock kit

Dutch SF:1x AI, 1x Hk417 16"

10th Gp 2x M110 with Crane SOPMOD

San Diego PD: 1x 18" OBR.
1x Blaser .308

5th SFG
1x M110 wPRS
1x 16" OBR

10 SFG
2x 18" OBR

10 SFG
20" OBR w PRS
16" OBR

1 SFG
20" OBR
Mk13

10 SFG
2x 18" OBR

1 SFG
16" OBR
M110 w Crane SOPMOD

Unk SFG
Mk11 Mod0 w PRS
18" OBR


USMC SOI West :M110 w PRS, M110K1 w 762QDC/CQB

3SFG: 2x 18" OBR w SF can

7SFG: 2x M110 w PRS

1 SFG: 2x 18" OBR.

LSP Team (Louisiana State Police) .308 Bolt, 16" JP .308.

5 SFG : 2x M110 w Bushnell 3-20 Larue mount

10 SFG: 16" Larue New Gun 18" OBR. Both w SF Brake

Raleigh NC PD Team
2x 18" OBR w PRS

NC State Police Team
2x 18" OBR w PRS

Navy Team 1 (SEAL Team10 ?)
2x Mk20 SCAR SSR

Navy Team 2 (SEAL Team2)
2x Mk20 SCAR SSR

3 SFG
2x M110 w SOPMOD

Irish Defense Force
2x 20" Hk417

1st SFG
M24 in Chassis that uses AI mags (sorry Lazlo I forgot your compnaies name again) and Mk11 w PRS.

USMC SOI East: Larue Predator 16, M40A5

3rd SFG
2x Mk11 Mod0 w SOPMOD

US Army Sniper School: 2x M110K1 w QDC/CQB.

DOE: 18" OBR, 16" OBR

ATF
2x Mk11 Mod0

3/75 Ranger
2x M110 with Crane Stock

1/75 Ranger
1x M110 with PRS
1x 16" OBR

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If your heart is set on a SPR but can live w/o the 24", Turners has has the .308 20" FN SPR non fluted version with A3 Mcmillian Stock for $999.99, you can always convert it to accept AIC 10 round mags down the road
Shhh, not soo loud...lol.

Actually, the one they have is a 22in barrel variant, I checked it out yesterday night (Jesse explained that it was a special build and not even an FN barrel, iirc)... It is nice and can't be beat for the price, just don't know if I really want to go the bolt route just yet.

Still debating.
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Or an OBR?
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Or an OBR?
I don't think you can compare the two @ $2,000. (Albeit much better rig).

The ones in question were both under a $1,000...




With that said, it's not what I thought it was...The FN that was offered to me was in fact, not even made by FN. I'll let floorance chime in if he cares to share his experience.


If not, I'll post the issue here shortly.
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Hey Guys, I just confirmed with Turners in Pasadena that indeed the money I put down for a FN SPR 20" was in fact not that at all. It was a for a rifle built by US Palm with their own barrel mounted in a A3 Mcmillian Stock with a FN Action. I'm pretty disgusted that they tried to pull a fast one on me. I asked them about this and guy behind the counter kept harping "You didn't buy a FN RIFLE" even though my receipt said otherwise. He told me it will be in next week's ad with an explanation. Still its absurd to think when I am buying something that is not as promised. Guess that Turners for you.

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Hey Guys, I just confirmed with Turners in Pasadena that indeed the money I put down for a FN SPR 20" was in fact not that at all. It was a for a rifle built by US Palm with their own barrel mounted in a A3 Mcmillian Stock with a FN Action. I'm pretty disgusted that they tried to pull a fast one on me. I asked them about this and guy behind the counter kept harping "You didn't buy a FN RIFLE" even though my receipt said otherwise. He told me it will be in next week's ad with an explanation. Still its absurd to think when I am buying something that is not as promised. Guess that Turners for you.

^^^ All of what he said.

I checked one out yesterday and was very confused on why they were offering it as such, FN (if not an FN), yeah FN action, blah, blah...It's not even a 20", it's a 22" with 1/10 twist, so the heavier stuff, heavier than 170gr was out of the question...

When I asked if FN were "good", I was even told by one of the salemen stated "You have to understand, FN makes rifle for our military, so yes.", I was almost sold..hahaha



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If you're still looking for an FN you should check these guys out, they're running a pretty good deal right now

Fn spr a2 with a4 stock for $1,545.00

http://www.tacticalcoordination.com/...er-rifles.html
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I don't think you can compare the two @ $2,000. (Albeit much better rig).

The ones in question were both under a $1,000...
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More "misinformation" from Turner's: I was informed this afternoon, that the "Palm part" is the stock which "is a clone of the McMillan"! The ad clearly states that the stock is a "McMillan (registered mark) A3 Stock" and the McMillan logo is also included in the ad. As previously stated, the barrel is marked 1 in 10" although the ad states that it is "1 in 11" Match Twist"; in addition, they couldn't seem to be able to afford a metal thread protector for the threaded muzzle...it had a black plactic cap!
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More "misinformation" from Turner's: I was informed this afternoon, that the "Palm part" is the stock which "is a clone of the McMillan"! The ad clearly states that the stock is a "McMillan (registered mark) A3 Stock" and the McMillan logo is also included in the ad. As previously stated, the barrel is marked 1 in 10" although the ad states that it is "1 in 11" Match Twist"; in addition, they couldn't seem to be able to afford a metal thread protector for the threaded muzzle...it had a black plactic cap!

What? wow...

I was told it was an actual McMillan stock, glass injected, pressed or something like that...that is crazy.
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