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Old 09-07-2011, 1:34 PM
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Default Can I use 30-round magazines with a bullet-buttoned semi-automatic rifle? NO!

As of January 1, 2017, the definition of 'assault weapon' changes,
so this is no longer applicable. See the last post.


No, no, a thousand times no!


That creates an 'assault weapon'; avoiding that problem is the whole point of using a magazine locking device.

See the sticky in the handguns forum for details. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=387409
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Good post... a thousand times "thanks"
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Yes you can if it is a registered AW!
You would put a mag-lock device on your RAW? That's OK by me, but seems a bit odd.
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Hey Cokebottle, thx. NOW it makes sense. ( I think) If the rifle(AR style) has either a fixed OR a removable magazine it cant have a high cap mag put into it.
No...

If a gun... ANY centerfire semiautomatic rifle or any semiautomatic pistol (including rimfire)... has a fixed magazine, it can not have a capacity greater than 10.

If a gun... ANY gun, has a detachable magazine and is otherwise legal in that condition... it may have a capacity of a billion rounds.

On the AR, in it's "standard" configuration, it must have a BB to be legal, so it would be a fixed magazine and limited to 10 rounds.

If it is featureless... Monsterman grip or other pistol grip alternative, no flash hider, fixed buttstock, etc... then it does not need a BB, and thus, can use high caps.
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Note: in 2017, this issue goes away.

Mags > 10 rounds become illegal to own for most people, and 'bullet buttons' no longer suffice to avoid a rifle being classified as an 'assault weapon'.
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Default Can't use 11+ mags in gun with new version of 'fixed mag'

PC 30515(a)(2)
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30515.


(a) Notwithstanding Section 30510, “assault weapon” also means any of the following:

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(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
New law redefines what a 'fixed magazine' has to be, but this has been in the code since 2000. If you have some gadget or device that, in your mind, renders the mag on your "semiautomatic, centerfire rifle" 'fixed', then this part of the law applies.
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