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Old 08-10-2011, 1:14 PM
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So im looking for a bit more information on building an AR-15 chambered in 7,62

i believe theres an option for 7.62 X 39 ? am i correct there or far off

ill have a bunch of questions but lets start here
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Old 08-10-2011, 1:29 PM
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Let's start by using the "search" function, shall we? There are many, many threads on this on here. And yes, it is an option. They are fun, but mags can be a bit hard to come by since C products shut down.

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Old 08-10-2011, 4:12 PM
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i was expecting this response. so heres mine

I used the search function, and unless im completely missing something (in which case someone please educate me) It comes back with a ton of junk. Ive searched through pages and pages and lots of spam replies to threads or random tangents on said threads i decided i would rather save my time and just ask and hope someone could be helpful enough to help me out, i hope thats not to much to ask.

that being said a few more questions on 7.62x39

what is different from an ar-15 chambered in 5.56?
from what ive gathered its this.
-bolt
-lower parts kit
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-magazine

am i missing anything or could i take a standard 556 ar and change out those 4 areas to get a 7.62x39 ar15?

thanks for your time
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The only difference is the barrel, bolt and magazines. Everything else is the same. Nothing needs to be changed in the Lower.
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The only difference is the barrel, bolt and magazines. Everything else is the same. Nothing needs to be changed in the Lower.
+1 and if you're gonna shoot wolf, yugo or other surplus steel cased ammo, you might want to change your hammer spring with extra power spring, so you can have a positive strike on the hard primers common to he mentioned ammo.
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Search and it's called a ar10 or 308 ar since technically ar10 is a trademarked rifle from knights or someone
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7.62x39 AR is a FUN gun- cheap, and has the power you felt you were lacking in the .223/5.56 realm. BUT, stock up on extractors. They tend to brake. ALOT. 7.62 extractors are very thin.
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How about building an AR in .300 Blackout/AAC?

The only part you need to replace on a 5.56mm AR is the barrel itself to convert to .300 Blackout/AAC It even uses the same 5.56mm magazines and BCG, since the case is based on .221 or .223 brass.

Uses .308 bullets, the same as 30-06 and .308, so finding good bullets with weights between 110 and 208 grains is not a problem if you want to reload.

No problems trying to find magazines that work like you will have with 7.62 X 39.

I inquired at PSA, and they are planning on trying to have complete uppers for sale in September.

And, you can buy factory loaded ammo already, if you don't want to reload.
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Old 08-10-2011, 6:03 PM
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i hate kooks who are always tellin people to use the lame search function

the search function here sucks so bad i wont even try anymore, but back on topic

op, you could build a regular AR and have a 7.62x39 upper as well and use it on the same lower if im not mistaken
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i hate kooks who are always tellin people to use the lame search function

the search function here sucks so bad i wont even try anymore, but back on topic

op, you could build a regular AR and have a 7.62x39 upper as well and use it on the same lower if im not mistaken
Yes agreed on first part but I got a question what mags can I use? I'm thinking of a upper also
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Look at the AR 15 Performance bolts. They have a thicker webbing, heavier extractor, and are generally beefier than regular 7.62x39 AR bolts. They also make a decent barrel. Brownells has a 20" barrel in 7.62x39 pretty cheaply right now, but I don't know what kind of quality it is. I have had no issues with my gun digesting Wolf, Brown Bear, Norinco (old yellow boxes), or Czech ammo. I didn't change the hammer springs or anything else. And I am still using my original extractor, which is identical to the .223 extractor. The newer AR15Performance bolts come with a stronger one, but can still use the standard extractor in a pinch. I have a spare bolt that has it, but I see no point in switching it out until it breaks. I am using several C products magazines, and they feed flawlessly. If you can find them, grab them. I also have a couple of plastic 10 round mags that I got from Brownells, that were made by some company in Florida. They suck. They may feed 7-8 times out of 10. On a good day. There are a couple of other companies that make them, but I have not tried those.

On a whole, I have had good experiences with my gun. No real issues. It goes bang every time, assuming the mags are good. Accuracy is better than my SKS and AK style guns.

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Which upper to get for AR x39?

Magazine company went under? Who else do you get mags from now?
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Magazine company went under? Who else do you get mags from now?
Yes. Who else makes some decent mags? Anybody? . . .
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Search and it's called a ar10 or 308 ar since technically ar10 is a trademarked rifle from knights or someone
That was a nice try..... that's 7.62x51

He specifically asked about 7.62x39 so technically you could use the search button too.
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Search and it's called a ar10 or 308 ar since technically ar10 is a trademarked rifle from knights or someone
What?? OP is asking about 7.62x39 not 7.62x51!

Last I checked the easter bloc didn't shoot 7.62 NATO.

OP: like the other said, barrel and bolt. That's all. Buy a complete upper chambered the round and put it on your lower and you're good to go. What used to be C-products has mags. Although some people have had feed issues. Some suspect it's the curvature of the mag. The problem was supposedly solved by an updated design but since the company has now split into two, hard to say what is being sold now.
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Which upper to get for AR x39?

Magazine company went under? Who else do you get mags from now?
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Yes. Who else makes some decent mags? Anybody? . . .
C Products went under, but the mags are being sold by a new outfit it became.

http://lcjwholesalestore.com/
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Why limit yourself to x39? There's always x25! http://cncgunsparts.com/ar-15_m-16_762x25_uppers Cheap as dirt to shoot, and I'm sure there are other benefits, though not owning the product myself I wouldn't really know.
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C Products went under, but the mags are being sold by a new outfit it became.

http://lcjwholesalestore.com/

SCORE!

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I've been semi interested in this upper for a while but I'm not 100% sure what to do about the Magazines, I don't know of any that are 10 rounders. I'm curious what it would take to make a magpul work with 7.26x39
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Wilson combat also made a .30 cal for ar-15.
I'm really interested in. 30 cal ar upper too, but don't want to get new mags
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If you like that caliber, then just get an AK, which will cost about the same as a dedicated AR upper!; but you'll get a whole rifle dedicated to the caliber of 7.62 X 39.
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i hate kooks who are always tellin people to use the lame search function

the search function here sucks so bad i wont even try anymore, but back on topic
Search police are idiots. The search feature on this forum is completely useless, as it doesn't search for a complete phrase, and brings up hundreds of worthless hits.
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If you like that caliber, then just get an AK, which will cost about the same as a dedicated AR upper!; but you'll get a whole rifle dedicated to the caliber of 7.62 X 39.
My 2 cents

I've been looking into this as well.
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Here are some links from a quick search,
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...hlight=7.62x39

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...hlight=7.62x39

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...hlight=7.62x39

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...hlight=7.62x39
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Old 08-26-2011, 12:12 AM
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Another search police...

as far as my original questions go, they have been more than answered, thank you to all who gave me a straight up response and shared what they knew rather than a snooty use the search forum response....

and as for the search police, catch a fish for a man, he eats for a day, teach him how to fish, or in this case how to use the horrid search function, and he wont bother you anymore! or just dont respond to my threads!
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I would avoid CProduct magazines in 7.62x39. I ran them in my PWS diablo in
7.62x39, and I have nothing good to say. Magazine options are limited for that
caliber if you going to go AR platform.

I think you be way better offer just buying an AK47 for 7.62x39.
*Entire Rifle
*Low Cost
*Parts Availability
*Magazines that works (many brands to choose from)
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Why limit yourself to x39? There's always x25! http://cncgunsparts.com/ar-15_m-16_762x25_uppers Cheap as dirt to shoot, and I'm sure there are other benefits, though not owning the product myself I wouldn't really know.
850 for that uppper! Ouch!
My LMT build cost less than that in total!

I guess you save $$$ in the long run.
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