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Old 07-04-2011, 7:04 PM
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http://www.usndcorps.org/?p=11

Is it another scam like this : http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=317922

If it is, who do I contact to whistleblow this?

It seems kind of shady, as they are 'recruiting' my girlfriend's dad and they've already 'promoted' him to a 1LT...The man is in his 70's. Can I contact somebody to investigate this? I've got some documents that seem fishy, one is from Minnesota, another is requesting signatures, one is a 'certificate'. All of them look printed off a regular printer..nothing really official. I can upload them if needed.

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Old 07-04-2011, 10:07 PM
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:32 PM
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Old 07-04-2011, 11:09 PM
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Nice is that real..??
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Old 07-04-2011, 11:11 PM
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It seems to be a scam. Much similar to the other one you posted. I looked at the "division" commanders and they all seem to be asian, with a few exceptions.
Also their "HQ" looks to be a residence.

I think its scam.
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Old 07-04-2011, 11:18 PM
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hmmmm wtf is right.
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I like their training video. /sarcasm/
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The California division is out in the little Vietnam section of Sacramento. I hope they are legit. Brings back flashbacks to the Good Guys Shooting back in the early 90's ( I was a first responder there when it happened).
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Old 07-05-2011, 8:16 AM
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Wow, they got a Korean and Khmer Division.

Commanded by Generals Kim Chee and Pol Pot.
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Old 07-05-2011, 12:58 PM
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Thats interesting.....and maybe kind of unnerving.
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Old 07-05-2011, 1:20 PM
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Old 07-05-2011, 2:03 PM
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This is a scam.
They basically pitch to recent immigrants that you can speed up your immigration application by joining the military. Specifically, their military.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/apr...-army-20110413
http://www.alhambrasource.org/news/i...rested-updated

It's kinda sad but some of these folks are gonna collect a lot of soda cans to pay for their LT bars....


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Old 07-05-2011, 6:34 PM
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The California Division HQ address also brings up this :

http://www.chunjido.com/news_items/79
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Old 07-05-2011, 7:19 PM
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Copying the original PDF file name (they forgot to erase it) CERT_GS_D Revised 08/20/2008

Brings up this document: http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/2280171.../CERT_GS_D.pdf

Googling the cert number from above document 20101108495 you can find the pdf file linked.

If you google : 20091079604, you don't find any PDF document.

I don't know if they made a fake one, or if they don't keep these on file, but I still find it fishy that it's from the State of CO, and we live in Modesto CA.

That's also a certificate certifying documents, but what?
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Old 07-05-2011, 7:35 PM
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Here is the "Certificate" with the 'promotion'...by the way, the man is Buddhist, and it was handed out at a Buddhist temple...

Notice the "given under my hand" part? In Windsor CT? My gf's dad has never been to CT.

The " you " is smudged in the upper right hand corner, because it's printed on photo paper.

Anything else fishy, that I, being a non mil person wouldn't be able to spot? Any phrases ring a bell that they may have copied?
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Old 07-05-2011, 7:43 PM
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Lastly, the Oath of Office paper, which is supposed to sign and turn in.




All of this, and the man can't even speak English, how is he supposed to understand this?

Anyways, the story we've heard, broken as it is, is the 'recruiter' is trying to recruit anybody who's had prior mil exp (back home) and my GF's dad was in the Army in Cambodia. Supposedly it's to honor them or something, for having served in the military back then. Funny thing is, NOTHING we've seen paper wise has said that. My gf's sister told him that she thinks it's fishy. He told the 'recruiter' that and the 'recruiter' said to have her come down and talk to him, and he'll explain everything. She's going to go talk to him tomorrow or friday, something like that. I'll keep updating as information comes along.
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Old 07-05-2011, 7:46 PM
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Bogus. Report to local pd for referral to feds
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Not another one.
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Old 07-05-2011, 10:55 PM
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I always wanted to run into one of these guys in public in California wearing a round brown. Would be pretty funny to act a little star struck then ask them questions on how its like to be a drill
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Old 07-06-2011, 9:26 AM
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Their color guard video is hilarious. It's like a military interpretive dance.

What gets me is that these people actually believe such an organization can be legitimate. They claim they're not posing as soldiers, but they still put on the ACUs and parade around with ranks and medals as if they were. I don't know whether to be flattered or offended.
it reminds me of high school JROTC. lol
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:48 AM
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reminds me of the "how much would you pay for LEO credentials" thread somewhere around here...
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Isn't that just what this guy was doing a few months back...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_848616.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_850671.html

Hmmm, looks errily familiar. Funny, I could not find any contact info anywhere on the site.

Here is the info on their domain registration...

Domain ID155270841-LROR
Domain Name:USNDCORPS.ORG
Created On:04-Feb-2009 1812 UTC
Last Updated On:20-Feb-2011 09:48:07 UTC
Expiration Date:04-Feb-2012 1812 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:FastDomain Inc. (R1455-LROR)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:FAST-13645263
Registrant Name:SomXai Vue
Registrant Organization:United States National Defense Corps
Registrant Street1:12615 Locust Way
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Thornton
Registrant State/Province:Colorado
Registrant Postal Code:80602
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.3037263050
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:somxai.vue@comcast.net
Admin ID:FAST-13645263
Admin Name:SomXai Vue
Admin Organization:United States National Defense Corps
Admin Street1:12615 Locust Way
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Thornton
Admin State/Province:Colorado
Admin Postal Code:80602
Admin Country:US
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Tech Phone:+1.8017659400
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Tech FAX:+1.8017651992
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....I just emailed the CO attorney general. If anyone knows anyone in the "know" in CO, should probably give them a call.

Mike

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Isn't that just what this guy was doing a few months back...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_848616.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_850671.html

Hmmm, looks errily familiar. Funny, I could not find any contact info anywhere on the site.

Here is the info on their domain registration...

Domain ID155270841-LROR
Domain Name:USNDCORPS.ORG
Created On:04-Feb-2009 1812 UTC
Last Updated On:20-Feb-2011 09:48:07 UTC
Expiration Date:04-Feb-2012 1812 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:FastDomain Inc. (R1455-LROR)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:FAST-13645263
Registrant Name:SomXai Vue
Registrant Organization:United States National Defense Corps
Registrant Street1:12615 Locust Way
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Thornton
Registrant State/Province:Colorado
Registrant Postal Code:80602
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.3037263050
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:somxai.vue@comcast.net
Admin ID:FAST-13645263
Admin Name:SomXai Vue
Admin Organization:United States National Defense Corps
Admin Street1:12615 Locust Way
Admin Street2:
Admin Street3:
Admin City:Thornton
Admin State/Province:Colorado
Admin Postal Code:80602
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.3037263050
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:somxai.vue@comcast.net
Tech ID:FAST-12785242
Tech Name:Bluehost Inc
Tech Organization:Bluehost.com
Tech Street1:1958 South 950 East
Tech Street2:
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Provo
Tech State/Province:Utah
Tech Postal Code:84606
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.8017659400
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:+1.8017651992
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:whois@bluehost.com
Name Server:NS1.BLUEHOST.COM
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....I just emailed the CO attorney general. If anyone knows anyone in the "know" in CO, should probably give them a call.

Mike


well then.... LOL
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Could this fall under the Stolen Valor Act?
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[QUOTE=caoboy;6721034]Could this fall under the Stolen Valor Act?[/QUOTE
Stolen valor act was overturned
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Looks like THIS is what they are using to justify their existence.

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Old 07-11-2011, 11:56 PM
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Update...nothing. Can't get any information out of anybody, since I keep telling them it's a scam...IDK where to go from here on out.
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Update...nothing. Can't get any information out of anybody, since I keep telling them it's a scam...IDK where to go from here on out.
Join them then when you have a huge book of details, blow the whistle :-)
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