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Reading some the good cause statements, a lot seem pretty lame. Yea, we all have pissed somebody off, walked past really bad people in dark mall parking lots, are neighbors to some scum bags and live, work and travel in really bad areas. We all carry large amounts of cash and guns, sometimes more than gun dealers(FFL's)! The line is to arbitrary as to what is a threat. I can find some poor soul living in a crappy area of Santa Maria who deserves a CCW more than some pilot or retired cop living in a gated community in Santa Barbara.
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Reading some the good cause statements, a lot seem pretty lame. Yea, we all have pissed somebody off, walked past really bad people in dark mall parking lots, are neighbors to some scum bags and live, work and travel in really bad areas. We all carry large amounts of cash and guns, sometimes more than gun dealers(FFL's)! The line is to arbitrary as to what is a threat. I can find some poor soul living in a crappy area of Santa Maria who deserves a CCW more than some pilot or retired cop living in a gated community in Santa Barbara.
Exactly the reason we all should have them
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Reading some the good cause statements, a lot seem pretty lame. Yea, we all have pissed somebody off, walked past really bad people in dark mall parking lots, are neighbors to some scum bags and live, work and travel in really bad areas. We all carry large amounts of cash and guns, sometimes more than gun dealers(FFL's)! The line is to arbitrary as to what is a threat. I can find some poor soul living in a crappy area of Santa Maria who deserves a CCW more than some pilot or retired cop living in a gated community in Santa Barbara.

Yeah Im on one the poor souls living in the crappy area of Santa Maria.
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Just browsed a few of the good cause statements. Noticed that page 7 or so was a judge who stated the need was due to threats made on other judges. I work in an unpopular field as well (animal research at the university) and several of my collaborators have received repeated death threats, including homes and a vehicle set on fire. Haven't applied, but I'm guessing the threats toward us aren't going to be viewed quite equally as those toward judges within the system...
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Just browsed a few of the good cause statements. Noticed that page 7 or so was a judge who stated the need was due to threats made on other judges. I work in an unpopular field as well (animal research at the university) and several of my collaborators have received repeated death threats, including homes and a vehicle set on fire. Haven't applied, but I'm guessing the threats toward us aren't going to be viewed quite equally as those toward judges within the system...

The Sheriff will tell you to quit that job or call 911.
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Reading the SB good cause statements is pretty depressing. I feel like I don't have a chance in the world.
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I read through all of them.

Some of them, like CCWs going to judges, are universal throughout CA.

They also issue to PI, especially casino investigators.

I didn't notice any doctors, lawyers or jewelers, which seem like typical categories in some other places, although I was skimming.

There are a few from people connected to the department, like reserves and so on.

The one thing that stands out is the best way to get a CCW in SB is to become a pilot and join the Aero Squandron. From the number of Aero Squad CCWs in there, it seems like they must all have them. Not too surprising.

It also seems like the Aero Squad is quite big. They seem to have plenty of volunteer pilots, probably more than they really need.

I didn't see any CCWs in there that stand out as "I want a CCW because I'm ultra-rich". Although many rich people do have pilots licenses, so maybe there are some billionaire-CCWs among the aero squad. We would need to see the names to know if that's what's going on. They do seem to have a lot of pilots on call there. Maybe aero squad is the new sheriff's mounted posse?
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Has the number of CCW issued/renewed reconcile with the number of GC statements received by CGF? Are they holding back the ones that would be truly useful?

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Has the number of CCW issued/renewed reconcile with the number of GC statements received by CGF? Are they holding back the ones that would be truly useful?

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We are on hold in SB County so maybe they are looking into it a bit more.
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any updates on our poor little county?
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Do all the aerosquadron members have pilots' licenses?
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any updates on our poor little county?
Maybe another 2 weeks?
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2 more weeks? I'm getting anxious here
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shameless bump for SB County!

2 more weeks?
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Any news on Santa Barbara county? If calguns needs a volunteer to try a non-retired leo, non-pilot, non-judge CCW, someone from calguns pm me. I have a perfectly clean record, veteran, and a couple of occupations that in any other state or most counties in calif would help justify a CCW for need.

(BTW, I remember years ago when I turned 21 in Washington state, I walked into the local sheriff's office, filled out the paper work, paid the small fee... and walked out with CCW in my wallet.)
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I'll ask again. Are we sure that "Aero Squadron Volunteer" is not just another term for "Campaign Contributor?" It's not like the Sheriff has a whole bunch of aircraft that need flying every day.
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I'll ask again. Are we sure that "Aero Squadron Volunteer" is not just another term for "Campaign Contributor?" It's not like the Sheriff has a whole bunch of aircraft that need flying every day.
It doesn't matter, the Sheriff will do what he damn well pleases. Just the way it is.
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Hopes dwindling...
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I'll ask again. Are we sure that "Aero Squadron Volunteer" is not just another term for "Campaign Contributor?" It's not like the Sheriff has a whole bunch of aircraft that need flying every day.
I'm pretty sure that that is what's going on. Many rich people do have pilot's licenses and so can nominally qualify for aero squadron volunteer. In previous times, rich people had horses and so there was a mounted posse. Today, rich people have pilots licenses, so there's an aero squadron. Same idea.

I'm sure there is some benefit to SBSO in terms of cost savings to having so many pilots available all the time, but aero squadron is basically a rich person's club.
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Any hope that SB will get sued into submission in the near future? My gut tells me we will have to wait for a carry case to win in the SC. I hope I am wrong and the no issue counties will follow in sacs footsteps.
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In the meantime I have gotten my Arizona and Nevada non resident CCWs for when I travel. Would be nice if Santa Barbara got with the times....
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Any more news on Santa Barbara County Good Cause Statements? In the list posted here there is a note towards the end that 2010 year's statements are coming soon... with not much more after that. Any updates for 2010/2011 GC statements? Thanks.
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Is there anyone here who actually has a ccw in Santa Barbara county?
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Is there anyone here who actually has a ccw in Santa Barbara county?
There are a handful of people, mostly FFl's and pilots. Read through the good cause statements, it will definitely get your blood boiling. Currently us peasants do not stand a chance.

There is rumor that the city of Lompoc is going shall issue...
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Really, wth does being a pilot have to do with good cause to get a LTC??

Other than being wealthy enough to fly a plane.
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I'm pretty sure that that is what's going on. Many rich people do have pilot's licenses and so can nominally qualify for aero squadron volunteer. In previous times, rich people had horses and so there was a mounted posse. Today, rich people have pilots licenses, so there's an aero squadron. Same idea.

I'm sure there is some benefit to SBSO in terms of cost savings to having so many pilots available all the time, but aero squadron is basically a rich person's club.


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yep, that about sums it up. miserable. I wish there was something more we could do besides donate and wait.
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Any Progress made on our end with the county ?
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Any news/progress on this or are we all just reserved to the Sheriffs opinion. Where is the law suit on behalf of our rights in this freaking county. And can a council member also authorize a CWP?
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PC12050-12054 covers carry permits. It specifically says the Sheriff or Chief or other Head of a Municipal Police Department (ie City Manager if there's no Chief).
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...and here we are in 2012, still no love for our forsaken liberal filled county.
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It just doesn't seem to make sense that many of us who have spent years protecting our country as law enforcement officers or military officers sworn to protect life and country are all of a sudden not trustworthy gun owners. You'd think these are just the type people that should be trusted with weapons. Not the rich and famous...

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It just doesn't seem to make sense that many of us who have spent years protecting our country as law enforcement officers or military officers sworn to protect life and country are all of a sudden not trustworthy gun owners. You'd think these are just the type people that should be trusted with weapons. Not the rich and famous...
Please dont take this the wrong way, I am one of the people looking forward to getting a LTC as soon as I can, but the issue of permits is not a rich and famous thing here in SB.

The reality is that permits are issued to those individuals who are connected to the SO. Reservists, SAR, and Aero Squad. A few Judges, and just about anyone connected to the Chumash Casino.

Rich and Famous would still get you a denial for the most part, unless you happen to be a rich pilot with your own plane, then Aero Squad for you... granted you still have to take the POLY, background investigation, etc. But the Aero Squadron is no joke, the time commitment is huge. It is also not just a rich mans club... it is full of a lot of retired cops and military guys.

Our best bet right now would be a suit filed against the county with enough backing to make them not want to fight it monetarily. The County is Broke!!!
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Has there been any progress on thee sb ccw issue.

I've been curiouse as to how to get a ccw for some time. I thought I'd chime in. I have a pilots license and know most of the guys on the aerosquadron. I don't qualify since they require over 1200 hours, I have some years to go for that. The misconception that its a buch of rich guys isn't true but I get the perception. 90% of us are middle class working stiffs, I can only afford a third of a 30k plane
From dealing with the aerosquadron guys, they have ccw's because they are basicaly deputised as members and participate in trainning with the sherifs department, in other words, their close proximity with law enforcment is getting them the inside track.. They all either have a pilots licence or a higher level ham license.
I dought I'd be able to get a ccw even though I work graves right across the river from the prison and have had a couple vehicals stolen by prisoners from our facility, but its a city facility and were not allowed wepons at work
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It looks like the link in OP is broken. How do I find out any info on SB?

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There are a handful of people, mostly FFl's and pilots. Read through the good cause statements, it will definitely get your blood boiling. Currently us peasants do not stand a chance.

There is rumor that the city of Lompoc is going shall issue...
I recently did work for a doctor/surgeon office where multiple people had CCW.

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